I don't think Graham Parkhouse has commented (as a Briton) so I'll just 
confirm
that the first floor is up the first flight of stairs.  However, we 
don't say "zeroeth"
floor unless we're being nerdish or silly - that's the "ground" floor 
for us.  I
suppose you could discuss the background of the word "ground" in this 
context. 

I'll list my background if I get round to making substantive comments!

Apologies if this has already been answered.  Also that this should 
perhaps be
in the "Jchat" category.

Mike


Don Guinn wrote:
> Isn't the floor above the ground floor numbered "1" or "first" in Great
> Britain?
>
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Leigh J. Halliwell 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>   
>> Dear J Forum:
>>
>> Occassionally the zero index-origin trips me up; however, it's one of the
>> peculiarities of the language that I accept (like 0%0 = 0, rather than _.)
>> in order to use the power of J.  I accepted it in APL, and I accept it in
>> J.
>> Besides, most of the time I replace elements in an array after an "i."
>> search, which handles the base consistently.  So I think that J developers
>> will make better use of their time than to add an option for 0/1 indexing.
>>
>> Moreover, my degree was in pure mathematics.  In set theory one begins with
>> the empty set as zero, and defines the next integer (n+1) as the union of n
>> and {n}.  So the integer (n+1) is essentially the set of integers from zero
>> to n.  In that regard, counting from zero is mathematically pleasing.
>>
>> That said, I'll never be so gung-ho about the custom as to start lists with
>> zero, as, for example, in the chapter numbering of Ken Iverson's Concrete
>> Math Companion -- although I might be tempted label a Forward or an
>> Introduction as Chapter 0).  Zero developed in the late middle ages, after
>> 'first' was established as the leading item.  I still bristle at using the
>> adjective 'zeroeth'.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Leigh
>>
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