Mentioning the various sizes is good.  i.e. The interpreter
itself is very small but you do get a substantial amount
of useful stuff in addons.   



----- Original Message -----
From: Devon McCormick <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, November 14, 2010 7:44
Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Presenting J at the "Language Slapdown" this week
To: Programming forum <[email protected]>

> Thanks for the feedback.  I do have in my presentation 
> notes that the entire
> vocabulary fits on one page - I meant to emphasize that what I 
> show is a
> sample, so I should mention the size of the "population".
> 
> When I'm talking about "compact", I was thinking of writing a 
> Newton solver
> in one line but it wouldn't hurt to mention the small size of the
> interpreter + libraries as well.   I estimate this as 
> about 2.7MB for the
> interpreters and dlls plus about 22MB for the addons, as well as about
> 17.5MB for the system, tools, help, and icons directories for a 
> total of
> 42.5MB - still svelte by modern standards:
> 
>    +/ 2723080 22323739  NB. bin/j.exe, jconsole, 
> jnative, jee, j.dll, j.jar
> + addons
> 25046819
>    +/ 6926980 856946 9184784 573168 NB. j602/system, 
> tools, help, bin/icons
> 17541878
>    +/ 25046819 17541878
> 42588697
> 
> I'll see if I can wedge in a few more elementary examples though 
> I have less
> than 50 seconds per slide.
> 
> Good catch with the missing negative sign - another cut-and-
> paste "droppo".
> 
> I'll post an updated version in an hour or so.
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Bo Jacoby 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Devon
> >
> > That is a very nice presentation!
> >
> > Minor details:
> >
> > You provide 3 lines of the vocabulary of J on page 2. Why not 
> tell that the
> > COMPLETE vocabulary is only 41 lines? To me the short language 
> definition is
> > an important quality of J.
> >
> > It is also very nice that J is accessible without charge.
> >
> > You do write the word "compact", but not HOW compact. (192 
> KB). The
> > compactness contributes to reliability.
> >
> > Elementary examples makes the audience feel comfortable:
> >   3+3
> > 6
> >   3*3
> > 9
> >   3-3
> > 0
> >   3%3
> > 1
> >   3^3
> > 27
> >   27^%3
> > 3
> >
> > The advanced stuff is impressiv but not comprehensible to non-J'ers.
> >
> > I miss a negative sign "_" in the Newton iteration "close to zero
> > difference" e_16.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Bo
> >
> >
> > --- Den søn 14/11/10 skrev Devon McCormick <[email protected]>:
> >
> > > Fra: Devon McCormick <[email protected]>
> > > Emne: [Jprogramming] Presenting J at the "Language Slapdown" 
> this week
> > > Til: "J-programming forum" <[email protected]>
> > > Dato: søndag 14. november 2010 07.29
> > > Hi All -
> > >
> > > I've put up a PDF -
> > > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/DevonMcCormick/LanguageSlapdown
> > > - of what I'm
> > > going to present at the Language Slapdown (
> > > http://www.meetup.com/Language-Slapdown/)
> > > on Wednesday.  Please feel free to
> > > take a look and comment.  Thanks to everyone in NYCJUG
> > > who gave me help with
> > > this.
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