Begin by splitting it up in three thirty minute parts. Even then each part is probably massive.
Why not split it into nine parts and instead of talking about them for ten minutes stretch each part to thirty minutes. After each part a question time and then next part given a week later. 2011/9/22 Devon McCormick <[email protected]> > I did present the whole thing (about 90 minutes) and only two (out of about > 8) people left early. But, as I said, there was kind of a stunned silence > at the end. I did get a nice review from one of the people who stayed. > However, it would benefit from some aggressive pruning. > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Roger Hui <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I doubt that Devon presented the whole thing. > > I suspect that he whetted the audience's interest > > sufficiently so that they'd study the rest of > > the excellent presentation at their own leisure. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > > Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011 4:18 > > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Shout out for Devon's Latest Wiki Posting > > To: Programming forum <[email protected]> > > > > > I think Devons presentation is fine and nice. > > > > > > I am a bit wondering about the length of the presentation. > > > > > > How much time did it get? > > > > > > The beginning is good and easy but it is a bit massive at the end. > > > > > > I know we want to show off everything but too much is just that - > > > too much > > > > > > 2011/9/22 Ian Clark <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > To some people, numerical computation and handling isn't too > > > > > attractive. They are more interested in string manipulation. > > > > > > > > And why not? IME, 50% to 98% of the code in a saleable app, > > > even a > > > > numerical app, handles strings not num arrays, thanks for the > > > need to > > > > interface with the user. (Nearer 98%, for an APL or J app, but > > > that's> down to the conciseness of math handling in APL or J.) > > > > > > > > To say that char and num arrays are treated the same way is > > > not the whole > > > > story. > > > > > > > > This is not to detract from Devon's presentation, which I > > > think is great. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:12 AM, June Kim (김창준) > > > <[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Devon McCormick > > > <[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > >> Ken - > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Nice presentation! > > > > > > > > > >> I think everyone was a bit worn out by the end - I went on > > > for an hour > > > > and a > > > > >> half - so there were really only a few questions. > > > > >> > > > > >> One person wanted to know about the "area of application" > > > for J and I > > > > told > > > > >> him "analytics" but now think this was too narrow - I > > > should have > > > > mentioned > > > > >> how I use it every day for many different tasks where I > > > might be using > > > > perl > > > > >> or shell-scripting otherwise. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I had done an introductory presentation of which point was > > > on "daily J > > > > > programming" using J as an extension to the brain. > > > > > > > > > > http://jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2009- > > > December/017260.html> > > > > > > Recently, I resumed "Thursday Quiz" for Korean J community mailing > > > > > list. I provide a daily J programming problem(which is authentic) > > > > > every Thursday. > > > > > > > > > >> Someone else wanted to know about string handling even > > > though I'd tried > > > > to > > > > >> emphasize the point that character and numeric arrays are > > > treated the > > > > same > > > > >> way (as appropriate to the verb being applied). > > > > > > > > > > To some people, numerical computation and handling isn't too > > > > > attractive. They are more interested in string manipulation. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> I missed my chance to hold up the book Ken had > > > brought, too. I should > > > > have > > > > >> thought of that as you were headed out. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks for coming by, > > > > >> > > > > >> Devon > > > > >> > > > > >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Lettow, Kenneth > > > <[email protected]> >wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Seconded. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I was in attendance, the crowd was small but engaged. I > > > watched a lot > > > > of > > > > >>> heads nodding in agreement as Devon went through the examples. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I had to leave a bit early, so I missed the Q&A. How did > > > that go Devon? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > > > >>> From: [email protected] > > > > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > > John Baker > > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:17 PM > > > > >>> To: Programming forum > > > > >>> Cc: Devon McCormick > > > > >>> Subject: [Jprogramming] Shout out for Devon's Latest Wiki > > > Posting> >>> > > > > >>> If anyone here hasn't take a few moments to read Devon's > > > recent J WikI > > > > >>> posting please do so. It's a great introduction to J. I > > > particularly> >>> like > > > > >>> his graphic. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Take a gander: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/DevonMcCormick/FunctionalJ > > > > >>> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > -- > Devon McCormick, CFA > ^me^ at acm. > org is my > preferred e-mail > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur Fornustekkum II 781 Hornafirði, t-póst: [email protected] gsm: +3546985532 twitter: @flugfiskur http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum /|_ .-----------------------------------. ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | ( -. | `-----------------------------------' | ) | (\_ _/) (`-. 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