> I have no idea how this is happening

Yeah, yeah, that's what they all say :-)  You're going to claim that
at no time did your fingers leave your hands.



On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:52 PM, David Vaughan
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I have no idea how this is happening - I can press the right arrow key and it 
> does not let me move away from the last visible character.
>
> On 18 Oct 2011, at 23:46, Roger Hui wrote:
>
>> By copying from your message I detected 3 garbage characters at the
>> end of the line in question.
>>
>>   a.i.'{. 2&x: (+%)/ a'
>> 123 46 32 50 38 120 58 32 40 43 37 41 47 32 97 226 128 139
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:39 PM, David Vaughan
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Strange, but sorted now. I've just written another verb and am getting 
>>> another spelling error which I don't understand - none of this was copied 
>>> and pasted:
>>>
>>>   pell =: 3 : 0
>>> a =. x: cf y
>>> if. 0=2|#a do. a =. (] , }.@}:) a end.
>>> {. 2&x: (+%)/ a
>>> )
>>> |spelling error
>>> |   {. 2&x: (+%)/ a
>>> |                  ^
>>> |   pell=:    3 :0
>>>
>>> If I type it 'manually' it works.
>>>
>>> On 18 Oct 2011, at 18:26, Raul Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I copy and paste this into a temp file, and load it, I get the same
>>>> spelling error you got.
>>>>
>>>> If I replace the load keyword in my session with    a.i.30 }. 41 {. 1!:1<
>>>> I get:
>>>> 50 43 114 13 10 226 128 139 226 128 139
>>>>
>>>> So it looks like you have a couple invisible white space unicode
>>>> sequences which J currently does not recognize as valid white space.
>>>>
>>>> Confirming this, in my J6.02 session, if I position the cursor to the
>>>> right of the 'w' in while and then move my cursor one character to the
>>>> left, and hit delete twice, the 'while.' keyword changes color, and
>>>> when I load the file I do not get the spelling error.
>>>>
>>>> FYI,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Raul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:09 PM, David Vaughan
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hmm, now I'm getting a spelling error which doesn't seem to make sense:
>>>>>
>>>>>   cf =: 3 : 0
>>>>> r=.%:y
>>>>> a=.<.1r2+r
>>>>> while. ({:a)~:2*{.a do. a=.a,<.1r2+{:r ] r=.r,%({:r)-{:a end.
>>>>> ]a
>>>>> )
>>>>> |spelling error
>>>>> |
>>>>> |   ^
>>>>> |   cf=:    3 :0
>>>>>
>>>>> It's like it's saying the error is above the first line. Also this is no 
>>>>> different to the version I had before aside from the correction in the 
>>>>> while loop.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Oct 2011, at 18:00, Raul Miller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The first element of a is always 1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last element of a is always an integer and so can never be 0.5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the loop can never terminate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Raul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:52 PM, David Vaughan
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Why does this not work? I had to interrupt it because it just froze 
>>>>>>> doing nothing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   cf =: 3 : 0
>>>>>>> r=.%:y
>>>>>>> a=.<.1r2+r
>>>>>>> while. ({.a)~:2*{:a do. a=.a,<.1r2+{:r ] r=.r,1%({:r)-{:a end.
>>>>>>> ]a
>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>   cf 2
>>>>>>> |attention interrupt: cf
>>>>>>> |       cf 2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2011, at 17:23, Raul Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The best I can think of at the moment is using x: on the floating
>>>>>>>> point value for an initial value and then newton's method to gain the
>>>>>>>> extra precision you want.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Raul
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:09 PM, David Vaughan
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping to write a verb to compute the continued fraction 
>>>>>>>>> expansion of a square root. I've done it in Java though there are 
>>>>>>>>> accuracy issues with floating points and speed issues with using 
>>>>>>>>> exact numbers (you end up multiplying massive numbers in some cases). 
>>>>>>>>> Is J equipped to deal with these problems or should I be looking for 
>>>>>>>>> an alternative method entirely?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2011, at 16:50, Raul Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:30 AM, David Vaughan
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Can J represent surds exactly instead of reverting to floating 
>>>>>>>>>>> point? It would be more convenient if I could do that rather than 
>>>>>>>>>>> storing the squared version.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but by generating a verb which would generate the floating point
>>>>>>>>>> value and not as a number.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cubeRootOf5=: %:&5 bind 3
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Of course you can manipulate the resulting numbers but those results
>>>>>>>>>> are still floating point:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   (cubeRootOf5 ^ 3:) ''
>>>>>>>>>> 5
>>>>>>>>>>   5-(cubeRootOf5 ^ 3:) ''
>>>>>>>>>> 8.88178e_16
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That said, in some cases, J can clean up floating point discrepancies
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   5-x:(cubeRootOf5 ^ 3:) ''
>>>>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but that's from direct manipulation of the values and does not care
>>>>>>>>>> about delayed evaluation:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   5-x:((3 %:5) ^ 3:) ''
>>>>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, J implements the data structures to support symbolic
>>>>>>>>>> manipulation but it does not have a particularly large library of
>>>>>>>>>> prebuilt symbolic manipulation routines.
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