Raul, does that mean =: declarations that depend on =. declarations will still work? Are =. like private methods in OO?
Cheers, Andrew Pennebaker www.yellosoft.us On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > [Sent to programming forum, Bcc to beta forum. If you respond, please > do so in programming.] > > Yes: > > =: definitions survive in the current locale (which defaults to 'base'). > > =. definitions end when the current explicit context ends. > > 'load' happens in a local context (which was generated specifically to > intercept =. definitions in the loaded file). > > -- > Raul > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Andrew Pennebaker > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think I understand, but I want to put it in my words to double-check. > > > > Declarations that are to be exposed to code that loads this J file should > > use =: for assignment, and local declarations inside of code blocks > should > > use =. Right? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Andrew Pennebaker > > www.yellosoft.us > > > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> In immediate mode it makes no difference. With explicit verbs or > whatever > >> names which are to be retained after the verb finishes should be > assigned > >> using global copula (=:). Other assignments in the definition should be > >> local (=.) so the names go away after the verb ends. That way the names > >> don't clutter up your work space and possibly accidentally overwrite a > name > >> you want to retain. > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Andrew Pennebaker < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > Thanks Don. If there's no particular reason to use globals, should I > use > >> =. > >> > every place in my code? > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > > >> > Andrew Pennebaker > >> > www.yellosoft.us > >> > > >> > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > =: is a global copula. =. is a local copula within explicit > >> definitions. > >> > In > >> > > immediate mode or not enclosed in an explicit definition is the > same as > >> > =: > >> > > . Need to be aware that if you use "load" that puts the script > within > >> an > >> > > explicit definition. So =. produces a local definition that > disappears > >> > when > >> > > the "load" verb ends. > >> > > > >> > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Pennebaker < > >> > > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > What's the difference between =: and =. ? > >> > > > > >> > > > Cheers, > >> > > > > >> > > > Andrew Pennebaker > >> > > > www.yellosoft.us > >> > > > > >> > > > 2011/10/30 Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > >> > > > > >> > > > > happy=.0 > >> > > > > > happy # <'clap hands' > >> > > > > > >> > > > > happy=.1 > >> > > > > > happy # <'clap hands' > >> > > > > clap hands > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 2011/10/30 Andrew Pennebaker <[email protected]> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > J won't let me write if. ... end. by itself; it must be > enclosed > >> > in a > >> > > > > > function definition. E.g., I'd like to do this: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > if. happy do. > >> > > > > > clapHands > >> > > > > > end. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Rather than: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > arewehappy =: monad : 0 > >> > > > > > if. happy do. > >> > > > > > clapHands > >> > > > > > end. > >> > > > > > ) > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > arewehappy 0 > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Can we add the ability to do the former to J? > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > By the way, what's the preferred notation for long variable > and > >> > > > function > >> > > > > > names? camelCase? with_underscores? > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Cheers, > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Andrew Pennebaker > >> > > > > > www.yellosoft.us > >> > > > > > > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > > > > For information about J forums see > >> > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -- > >> > > > > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > >> > > > > Fornustekkum II > >> > > > > 781 Hornafirði, > >> > > > > t-póst: [email protected] > >> > > > > gsm: +3546985532 > >> > > > > twitter: @flugfiskur > >> > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari > >> > > einfaldleikans > >> > > > > > >> > > > > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af > skónum > >> > > > > /|_ .-----------------------------------. > >> > > > > ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > >> > > > > ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > >> > > > > / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > >> > > > > ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > >> > > > > | ) | (\_ _/) > >> > > > > (`-. 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