Joey, I don't *do* Windows, either, but I like my software to be able to
run on Windows.

Ric, those links are very helpful.

I tried using the J GUI to install the base library, but by default, gtkide
isn't installed. It says to install 'gtkide', so that's what I did.

In the process, I noticed that J installed the base library, so it would be
super helpful if the JAL
wiki<http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/JAL/User%20Guide>said this is how
you install the base library:

   install 'base'

But I can't figure out how to install jpkg. The wiki doesn't say how to.

Neither install 'stats-base' nor install 'stats/base' seem to install the
stats-base <http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Addons/stats/base> addon, so I
used the jgtk701.app GUI once gtkide was installed.

I successfully loaded 'stats/base/random', but it's not clear from the
docs<http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Addons/stats/base/random>how to
randomize a seed. Could someone give an example of how to use
randomize in tandem with 9!:0?

Cheers,

Andrew Pennebaker
www.yellosoft.us

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Ric Sherlock <tikk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Check out http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/JAL/ if you're new to the J
> Application Library (JAL).
> I seem to remember from an earlier thread that you are a console user.
> If so then you may want to check out the jconsole interface to the JAL
> package manager:
> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/JAL/Package%20Manager/jpkg
>
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Ric Sherlock <tikk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Depends what you mean by "built in". They are available on J7 if you
> > install the addons I mentioned from JAL.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Andrew Pennebaker
> > <andrew.penneba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Joey, agreed, /dev/random is preferable. What do you use in Windows?
> >>
> >> Ric, which of these addons are built into J7?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Andrew Pennebaker
> >> www.yellosoft.us
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Ric Sherlock <tikk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> There is the randomise verb in the 'stats/base' addon that sets the
> >>> random link based on OS routines for generating guid.
> >>> In J7 you will also need the 'general/misc' addon for the guid.ijs
> >>> script (this is part of the base library in J6).
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Andrew Pennebaker
> >>> <andrew.penneba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > When I do ? 16, the sequence always begins the same way.
> >>> >
> >>> > How can I seed the random number generator with the system time?
> >>> >
> >>> >   ymdhmstojsec =. 13 : '0 24 60 60 #. ({: 3 {. y) , 3 }. y'
> >>> >   9!:0 ymdhmstojsec 6!:0 ''
> >>> > |rank error
> >>> > |       9!:0 ymdhmstojsec 6!:0''
> >>> >
> >>> > Cheers,
> >>> >
> >>> > Andrew Pennebaker
> >>> > www.yellosoft.us
> >>> >
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