My preference for PDF is for exactly the reason Ric states - PDF scales
and I don't have to worry when creating plots about setting a size for
later use.
On 2011/12/19 11:19 , Ric Sherlock wrote:
> I think David has summed up my feelings pretty well.
> I like PDFs for good quality output but with complex plots they can
> get really big (all shapes get drawn and stored, not just the visible
> ones) whereas the size of the png is set by its dimensions.
>
> For exploring something interactively I'd like Gtk but IMO png is
> probably the best all round fit for the default.
>
> 2011/12/20 Joey K Tuttle <j...@qued.com>:
>> Using jconsole for 99+% of my j activity, and Mac OS X as workstation
>> (mostly with j on a networked Linux server) I prefer PDF to be the default.
>> Strongly.
>>
>> - joey iPh
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 6:55 AM, David Mitchell <davidmitch...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I have mixed feelings about the default.
>>>
>>> A default output of gtk seems best for general interactive use and visual
>>> fidelity with the old plot behavior.
>>>
>>> Some jconsole users seem to be using jconsole for its streamlined interface
>>> and
>>> character based interaction. I would think that a default output of png
>>> fits
>>> better with that usage.
>>>
>>> png has the added advantage of providing a reasonable, if indirect, path to
>>> printing the plot results.
>>>
>>> pdf seems best reserved as a non-default option.
>>>
>>> On 12/19/2011 9:36, bill lam wrote:
>>>> I might know why it worked for me but failed for you. Since I tested
>>>> jconsole
>>>> on a debian console without X11, it always choose cario/png output. But for
>>>> windows or linux with x11 (Ric's case), it elect gtk output, the problem is
>>>> that those required and coinsert have been left out.
>>>>
>>>> It also worked in JHS because gtk will never run under that environment.
>>>> Before fix the bug, I must ask what should be the default plot output for
>>>> jconsole - gtk, pdf or png?
>>>>
>>>> Пнд, 19 Дек 2011, David Mitchell писал(а):
>>>>> I got the same failure on Win7_64 with plot in jconsole on J701 with
>>>>> current addons.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was able to get it to work with this workaround:
>>>>>
>>>>> load'plot'
>>>>> load '~addons/graphics/gl2/gl2.ijs'
>>>>> dbg 1
>>>>> plot 20?20
>>>>> |value error: glsel
>>>>> | glsel PIdLoc
>>>>> |gtk_paint[0]
>>>>>
>>>>> coinsert 'jgl2'
>>>>> dbrun''
>>>>>
>>>>> (jconsole.exe:5224): Pango-WARNING **: couldn't load font ""Arial"
>>>>> Not-Rotated 9
>>>>> ", falling back to "Sans Not-Rotated 9", expect ugly output.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/19/2011 1:47, bill lam wrote:
>>>>>> That is strange. I tested just plot under linux jconsole before replying
>>>>>> your email. It looks like it choose gtk ouput but gl2 has not been
>>>>>> loaded.
>>>>>> You may try load gl2 manually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you email me your jzplot.ijs file by private mail?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Пнд, 19 Дек 2011, Ric Tikkanz писал(а):
>>>>>>> AFAICS my system has the latest plot (1.0.25) and a bunch of other
>>>>>>> things I thought may be related (I appended the jpkg results to my
>>>>>>> initial post to try and signal that).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 7:21 PM, bill lam<bbill....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think your plot is out-dated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The defaut output for jconsole has also been changed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Пнд, 19 Дек 2011, Ric Tikkanz писал(а):
>>>>>>>>> Currently I get an error if I try to plot from jconsole (Windows or
>>>>>>>>> Linux).
>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure (at least under Linux) that I used to get a gtk
>>>>>>>>> window.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> load 'plot'
>>>>>>>>> plot 10?10
>>>>>>>>> |value error: glcanvas_jgl2_
>>>>>>>>> | PIdLoc=: glcanvas_jgl2_ PForm;PId;(Cw,Ch);coname''
>>>>>>>>> 'output pdf' plot 10?10
>>>>>>>>> |value error: PIdLoc
>>>>>>>>> | _2{.getGtkWidgetAllocation_jgtk_ canvas__PIdLoc
>>>>>>>>> 'output pdf' plot 10?10
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> load 'pacman'
>>>>>>>>> 'search' jpkgv 'graphics base library gui'
>>>>>>>>> +----------------+------+------+-------------------------------+
>>>>>>>>> |base library |7.1.52|7.1.52|base library scripts |
>>>>>>>>> |graphics/afm |1.0.2 |1.0.2 |AFM |
>>>>>>>>> |graphics/bmp |1.0.1 |1.0.1 |bitmap utilities |
>>>>>>>>> |graphics/color |1.0.1 |1.0.1 |Color tables |
>>>>>>>>> |graphics/gl2 |1.0.14|1.0.14|gl2 |
>>>>>>>>> |graphics/graph |1.0.3 |1.0.3 |Graph |
>>>>>>>>> |graphics/jturtle|1.0.1 |1.0.1 |Turtle graphics |
>>>>>>>>> |graphics/opengl |1.0.11|1.0.11|OpenGL graphics |
>>>>>>>>> |graphics/plot |1.0.25|1.0.25|Plot |
>>>>>>>>> |graphics/viewmat|1.0.2 |1.0.2 |Displays a viewmat |
>>>>>>>>> |gui/gtk |1.0.77|1.0.77|GTK API |
>>>>>>>>> |gui/jgtkgrid |1.0.7 |1.0.7 |Grid implementation for J7/JGTK|
>>>>>>>>> +----------------+------+------+-------------------------------+
>>>>>>>>> JVERSION
>>>>>>>>> Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25
>>>>>>>>> Library: 7.01.052
>>>>>>>>> Platform: Win 32
>>>>>>>>> Installer: j701a_win.exe
>>>>>>>>> InstallPath: c:/program files/j701
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