Javier,

you might perhaps find some hints at https://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/positioning-navigation/geodesy/transform-convert or https://www.icsm.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-10/GDA2020%20Technical%20Manual%20V1.7.pdf . There are also a number of (closed) issues on PROJ tracker about that, because that confuses everybody, but I believe the answer is that all and none of the 3 transformations is correct, because there is no universal answer. Mostly comes from the fact that GDA94 & GDA2020 are plate-anchored and WGS 84 (as EPSG:4326) is a global datum ensemble with an accuracy of 2 m.

There are time-dependent transformations between GDA94 and WGS 84 (G1762), and GDA2020 and WGS 84 (G1762), but for generic WGS 84, things are more fuzzy, as one might consider that GDA94 = WGS 84 (at 1994.0) and GDA2020 = WGS 84 (at 2020.0).

So when you do WGS84 to GDA2020, if you are talking about coordinates with an epoch of ~ 2020, then the null Helmert transformation is appropriate, since by definition GDA2020 = ITRF2014 at 2020.0 ~= WGS84 at 2020

But if you are considering WGS84 coordinates with an epoch of ~ 1994.0, then WGS84 ~= GDA94, and it makes sense then to propose the transformations between GDA94 and GDA2020, hence (3) and (4). As far as I remember the "standard" conformal transformation between GDA94 and GDA2020 is the (non-null) 7-Helmert, and a NTv2 grid (GDA94_GDA2020_conformal) was just derived from this 7-Helmert transformation because some software prefer grids to Helmert transformation. The proposed WGS 84 to GDA2020 (4) actually uses GDA94_GDA2020_conformal_and_distortion, which is a variation of the conformal grid that takes into account some distortion (cf paragraph 3.2.2 of the GDA2020 technical manual)

I suspect the 3m accuracy was given so that none of the 3 transformations particularly appear as better as the others, as ultimately the user needs to decide what "type of WGS 84" he has.

Just my non-authoritative guesses.

Even

Le 09/05/2024 à 12:47, Javier Jimenez Shaw via PROJ a écrit :
Hi

Preparing a talk for FOSS4G Europe in Tartu (see you there if you come!), I found that the 3 transformations  in EPSG from WGS 84 to GDA2020 (2, 3 and 4) they all have 3m accuracy.
That is not giving a clue to PROJ about which one is better.

(2) is a null Helmert transformation.
(3) is a Helmert with 7 numbers
(4) uses a grid.

Is there anybody from the Australian agency here? Is there any reason why the three transformations have the same accuracy? I would expect different values. I looks like a copy-paste issue.

The same happens with the transformation from WGS 84 to GDA94.

Thanks,
Javier

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