Thanks Even. In the DB, the operation registered is ETRS89_TO_ETRF2020, so it has to be "inverted". However, I do not see any way to indicate that in the concatenated operation.
For instance, this concatenated operation does not mention that the second step should be "inverted" (if I understood correctly) ('NKG', 'ITRF2014_TO_DK', 1, 'EPSG', '8366'), -- ITRF2014 -> ETRF2014 ('NKG', 'ITRF2014_TO_DK', 2, 'NKG', 'NKG_ETRF14_TO_ETRF2014'), ('NKG', 'ITRF2014_TO_DK', 3, 'NKG', 'PAR_2020_DK'), ('NKG', 'ITRF2014_TO_DK', 4, 'NKG', 'DK_2020_INTRAPLATE') Does it mean that PROJ is finding it automatically? Thanks. PS Should I add the concatenated operation (ITRF2020->ETRS89) to PROJ in a PR? There are different "paths" from ITRF2020 to ETRS89. All apparently equivalent, but probably not exactly the same. On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 at 19:55, Even Rouault <even.roua...@spatialys.com> wrote: > Javier, > > I believe that registering a concatenated operation for ITRF2020 -> ETRS89 > = ITF2020->ETRF2020+ETRF2020->ETRS89 in the database should be enough for > PROJ to infer the ITRF2020 -> CH1903+ pipeline > > Even > Le 27/08/2024 à 19:29, Javier Jimenez Shaw via PROJ a écrit : > > Hi > > I am now facing transformations with ITRF2020 with time(yes, because > Skylark, but I guess more NTRIPs are going to do (or already doing) the > same) > > The point is when the destination CRS does not have a direct > transformation from ITRF2020 (or almost). > > For instance, EPSG:4150, CH1903+ (the geographic of LV95, in Switzerland) > is only connected to ETRS89. See that CH1903+ is in the European tectonic > plate, as ETRS89 > > A direct transformation is completely ballpark > > echo 42 6 0 2024.6 | ./cs2cs EPSG:9989 EPSG:4150 -d 9 --3d > 42.000000000 6.000000000 0.000000000 2024.6 > > However, from ITRF2020 to ETRS89 there is some change due to the time (the > European plate moving at 2.5 cm/a since 2015): > echo 42 6 0 2024.6 | ./cs2cs EPSG:9989 EPSG:4937 -d 9 --3d > 41.999994981 5.999991317 -0.001861237 2024.6 > > and from ETRS89 to CH1903+ due to the datum offset: > echo 42 6 0 2024.6 | ./cs2cs EPSG:4937 EPSG:4150 -d 9 --3d > 42.000742733 6.000670188 -60.682799297 2024.6 > > Looking at the pipelines, the steps would be ITRF2020 -> ETRF2020 -> > ETRS89 -> CH1903+ > (btw, only since PROJ 9.4.1, when ETRF2020 was added) > > I understand that the only way to get the proper transformation is > chaining these two manually. Via ETRS89 ... because I know it. Right? > > Well, the future does not look so promising to me: in EPSG I only see > transformations from ITRF2020 to ETRF family, NAD83(2011) family and > NAD83(CSRS)v8. That is Europe, USA and Canada. That's all, folks. > > Thanks, > .___ ._ ..._ .. . ._. .___ .. __ . _. . __.. ... .... ._ .__ > Javier Jimenez Shaw > Mercator str 42. > Null-Island > > _______________________________________________ > PROJ mailing > listPROJ@lists.osgeo.orghttps://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/proj > > -- http://www.spatialys.com > My software is free, but my time generally not. > >
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