Hello Alexander,
It's been a while since we talked at the last Invenio Users Meeting,
but i'm following the list and I've seen the great work you've done at
Juelich.
We currently use some sort of authority control in JuSER where we mainly
implemented the functionality within websubmit type of things. This
however does not (yet?) use bibauthority. Unfortunately, the
searchengine does not yet know about authorities. If we can be of some
help here, drop me a note.
I'm too using a way to correctly SELECT a user (with all proper IDs,
affiliations, etc) from a list in websubmit part. However, the values
are copied to 100/700__0,a,e,u bib record fields. This ensures
consistency across records, but it's really a plan-b solution -but the
only way to do things because authorities are not(?) supported. Plus, I
think that there is no easy way to use this data in BibEdit: one could
select from a list of authors in 100/700__a, but i'm not sure that this
selection could update other subfields of 100/700 accordingly.
Ideally, with authorities, in the bib record, only the 'reference' to
the authority would be used, so that if anything changes in the author,
all the 'connected' records will know the change, plus you get see/see
also fields, alternate/translated names support etc.
That would also involve indexing and searching, and this is described
nicely, here http://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/CDS/BibAuthority
You can check out what we did at http://juser.fz-juelich.de/ in the
Authorities-collections. You might also want to check out the Marc we
used. E.g. for an institute http://juser.fz-juelich.de/record/98380 You
may use the arrow links to go to predecessors, successors or top.
You seem to have it nicely ordered. I'm currently interested mostly on
authors, but Institutions will come next. I'll check your marc to get
an idea of what you've used. Thanks again for sharing your work!
We would definitely also want to know how they can be used within
search. I mean not simple stuff like searching for an ID, we have this
already but searching for an ID x and find all records for ID x and y as
the authority record of x list's y as addional identifier. We work
around our current limitations e.g. using the index cid (contributing
institutes also gathering all former forms of the institute) but this is
not really done in a nice way. Bascially a record here just has enough
collection entires, but it's no real authority lookup.
Exactly!
When we started to implement this stuff I checked closely with Annette
Holtkamp, so I think we should indeed use the same or at least a very
similar authority record layout as Inspire.
Hmm.. I didn't go yet too much into Inspire's (pseudo?)authority marc,
but will do soon. I also believe that we should always try to use
common fields when possible, keeping always in mind the marc standards.
Having said that, I am mostly interested in more fundamental issues:
- (Is/was/will there be) support for authorities soon
-indexing/searching/bibedit support included- and what can i do now to
be ready?
- Is the final module going to be something similar to what's being
described in that wiki page?
- Is it planned for 1.2 1.x or 2.x series?
My best regards to all,
Theodoros
