Hi Rainer,

thank you very much for the explanation! I'll try my luck with the Pac2002 
model. If I get around to validating the car and tire models after the 
season, I may come back here and report on our results.

Sincerely,
Thorsten

[email protected] schrieb am Samstag, 6. Januar 2024 um 15:38:55 UTC+1:

> Hi Thorsten,
>
> the MFTire class was a c++ port of the Matlab tool. It contained a lot of 
> features, nearly all proposed bei Hans Pacejka in his book. The original 
> authors know, that many of these features or not used by anybody. They made 
> analyses of the commercial MFTire solutions used e. g. in ADAMS for this 
> and privided a switch to deactivate those features. We decided not to 
> maintain code that nobody ever is going to use, that is the main reason to 
> drop c++-MFTire as tire model in chrono. The c++ port was extremely buggy, 
> that showed a test a test with a validated vehicle model (Fed-Alpha) 
> equipped with validated Pacejka 2002 tire files (donated by Goodyear). Btw. 
> our former Pac02 model worked well with it! We decided to rewrite it yet, 
> to give it a more readable structure and to implement a parser for 
> ADAMS/Car compatible *.tir files. It should be easier to use now.
>
> We definitely don't have all possible functions implemented. Only steady 
> state and combined forces can be used. Inflation pressure dependent data 
> sets can be probably used but have not been tested, because we don't have 
> validated example files for it. So if you have fitted tire parameters for 
> your race car, you should Pac02 in chrono give a try.
>
> Best,
> Rainer
>
> [email protected] schrieb am Freitag, 5. Januar 2024 um 23:12:01 UTC+1:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am currently trying to simulate a racing car in Project Chrono. As such 
>> the tire simulation is very important to me. I fitted a magic formula v61 
>> model to my experimental data and while browsing through the pull requests 
>> I found that there is/was a MFTire class for the versions 61 and 62 of the 
>> magic formula in Chrono. Since I didn't find this code in the current main 
>> branch I did a little deep dive and found out that the corresponding class 
>> was deleted in 4f7c0ea8f6b10896459c1867551858706f083632 on the 8th of June 
>> 2023 in the process of reworking the Pacejka2002 tire. I was a little 
>> confused by this since I thought that the MF version 61 and 62 are way 
>> newer than 2002 (imo 2008 atleast). Therefore I wanted to ask whether the 
>> Pac2002 tire contain all the formulas for the current MF versions or what 
>> the process was behind removing this class.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Thorsten
>>
>

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