My apologies. You can ignore the second question as you Radu Serban previously 
answered 
<https://groups.google.com/g/projectchrono/c/rSo57qLvAwk/m/JZ1E8EGtAQAJ> 
this for me (never got the notification).

On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 11:39:54 AM UTC-8 Trevor Vidano wrote:

> Hi Project Chrono,
>
> tl;dr:
>
>    - Can you help me make the strongest argument for the credibility of 
>    using Project Chrono Vehicle in researching automotive control?
>    - Do you have validation studies, or sources, for the various models 
>    in the Project Chrono Vehicle database?
>    - Can you port the vehicles implemented in NADS to Project Chrono? 
>
>
> Dan Negrut recently gave a seminar at UC Davis, which inspired me to take 
> another look at Project Chrono (I had come across it back in version 6 or 
> so). I currently am researching front steering control of autonomous ground 
> vehicles. The research standard (what appears most often in literature) 
> appears to be to use CarSim for this. I have been told that the industry 
> standard (what many OEMs use) is Adams/Car. 
>
> In research, open-source projects are immensely useful because they enable 
> free exchange and repeatability of research efforts. Unfortunately, CarSim 
> is rather expensive ($6000/year or $14000 for an indefinite license). I 
> have not looked into Adams/Car pricing. 
>
> I would like to argue that Project Chrono Vehicle should become the new 
> research standard for automotive control research. However, this requires 
> arguing that Project Chrono's credibility is at or beyond that of CarSim's. 
>
> I have studied multi-body dynamics a little bit (a Graduate class taught 
> by Prof. Haug), and I am quite convinced of Project Chrono's credibility 
> because of the validation studies you have online, the funding sources, the 
> list of current and past users, the main developers, as well as the 
> extensive capability of the codebase. Could you help me with making a 
> strong argument for this?
>
> When doing automotive control research, I understand that the gold 
> standard is to have an experimentally validated model of an existing 
> vehicle. However, in most literature using CarSim as a virtual vehicle, it 
> appears that a generic vehicle (one that does not exist in real life but 
> behaves like a realistic vehicle) is sufficient for the validation of 
> control algorithms. I am only aware of the validation study comparing 
> Project Chrono Vehicle to Adams/Car, and I am guessing that the vehicle 
> model used in that study is the Generic Wheeled Vehicle 
> <https://github.com/projectchrono/chrono/tree/main/data/vehicle/generic>. 
> However, I can't be sure. I also am assuming that the validation study is 
> quite old, but that it is still valid because I am assuming new releases 
> make improvements. There are numerous other vehicle models in the 
> repository, but I am not aware of their sources or if any of them are 
> validated. If possible could you share what you can about the source and 
> validation work (if any) of these vehicle models?
>
> I have also considered implementing the vehicles developed for the 
> National Advanced Driving Simulator (NADS) in Project Chrono. However, 
> checking that the constructed model matches the original NADS 
> implementation is mostly eyeballing (or guesswork) without the raw data 
> from the NADS experiments.  Since some of the Project Chrono developers 
> have a connection to NADS (I think?) is it possible to get this data or 
> port those models to Project Chrono?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Trevor 
> PhD Candidate at UC Davis
>

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