Hi Bocheng,

I realized this "conda install bochengzou::pydeme -c bochengzou -c nvidia
-c dlr-sc -c conda-forge" does not contain the pychrono package. Will I
have to install it separately? And is there an order to the installation?

Best regards,
Nnamdi

On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 1:12 PM Nnamdi Chikere <nchik...@nd.edu> wrote:

> Thank you very much. I will try it out and let you know if I have any
> problems.
>
> Best regards,
> Nnamdi
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 10:12 PM 'Bocheng Zou' via ProjectChrono <
> projectchrono@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nnamdi,
>>
>> Sorry for the long delay. We have released the test version of PyDEME
>> through conda . Please try installing the PyDEME through the following
>> command in a NEW environment created using "conda create -n tutorial
>> "python<3.13" -c conda-forge".
>>
>> conda install bochengzou::pydeme -c bochengzou -c nvidia -c dlr-sc -c
>> conda-forge
>>
>> Let me know if you encounter any issues.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Bocheng Zou
>> On 8/6/25 19:36, 'Nnamdi Chikere' via ProjectChrono wrote:
>>
>> Thank you so much. I am looking forward to the PyDEME conda package this
>> week.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Nnamdi
>>
>> On Monday, August 4, 2025 at 4:44:53 PM UTC-4 bzo...@wisc.edu wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nnamdi,
>>>
>>> Thank you for bringing that issue to our attention. The Py-DEME's
>>> building pipeline is not stable on Windows at this moment.  We suggest you
>>> try to build from source or use WSL .
>>>
>>> We will likely to bring up a conda package for PyDEME for Windows to
>>> make this process much easier this week.
>>>
>>> If you intend to reproduce the results that you asked Harry for in
>>> another email chain,
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/projectchrono/c/fWYnvZKkT4g
>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://groups.google.com/g/projectchrono/c/fWYnvZKkT4g__;!!Mak6IKo!JX-cqt87BA-368G9A9yWM_Ikk5CTcdqeDKzA6x-EDqiwC_kk3Z3V4ydc43Fqt3sN2XEpyJ-gNXaWt38SiwDJKtV3F_NFxQ$>
>>> , Py-DEME is not required and you can just follow the instruction in
>>> Harry's github.
>>>
>>> I will keep you posted on Py-DEME's Windows conda package.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Bocheng Zou
>>> On 8/4/25 19:20, 'Nnamdi Chikere' via ProjectChrono wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for your replies.
>>> @Bocheng, I created an environment following the steps you outlined and
>>> from the GitHub page to install the Py-DEME I followed these steps
>>>
>>> conda install cmake
>>> pip3 install DEME
>>>
>>>  I got these errors.
>>> (chrono_test2) conda install cmake
>>>
>>>
>>> Channels:
>>>
>>>  - conda-forge
>>>
>>>  - defaults
>>> Platform: win-64
>>> Collecting package metadata (repodata.json): done
>>> Solving environment: done
>>>
>>>   cmake              conda-forge/win-64::cmake-4.0.3-hff78f93_0
>>>   libuv              conda-forge/win-64::libuv-1.51.0-hfd05255_1
>>>
>>>
>>> Proceed ([y]/n)? y
>>> Downloading and Extracting Packages:
>>> Preparing transaction: done
>>>
>>> Verifying transaction: done
>>> Executing transaction: done
>>>
>>> (chrono_test2) pip3 install DEME
>>> Collecting DEME
>>>   Using cached deme-2.1.2.tar.gz (6.9 MB)
>>>   Installing build dependencies ... done
>>>   Getting requirements to build wheel ... error
>>>   error: subprocess-exited-with-error
>>>
>>>   × Getting requirements to build wheel did not run successfully.
>>>   │ exit code: 1
>>>   ╰─> [33 lines of output]
>>>       Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>         File
>>> "C:\Users\chike\anaconda3\envs\chrono_test2\Lib\site-packages\pip\_vendor\pyproject_hooks\_in_process\_in_process.py",
>>> line 389, in <module>
>>>           main()
>>>         File
>>> "C:\Users\chike\anaconda3\envs\chrono_test2\Lib\site-packages\pip\_vendor\pyproject_hooks\_in_process\_in_process.py",
>>> line 373, in main
>>>           json_out["return_val"] = hook(**hook_input["kwargs"])
>>>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>         File
>>> "C:\Users\chike\anaconda3\envs\chrono_test2\Lib\site-packages\pip\_vendor\pyproject_hooks\_in_process\_in_process.py",
>>> line 137, in get_requires_for_build_wheel
>>>           backend = _build_backend()
>>>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>         File
>>> "C:\Users\chike\anaconda3\envs\chrono_test2\Lib\site-packages\pip\_vendor\pyproject_hooks\_in_process\_in_process.py",
>>> line 70, in _build_backend
>>>           obj = import_module(mod_path)
>>>                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>         File
>>> "C:\Users\chike\anaconda3\envs\chrono_test2\Lib\importlib\__init__.py",
>>> line 90, in import_module
>>>           return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level)
>>>                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>         File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1387, in _gcd_import
>>>         File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1360, in
>>> _find_and_load
>>>         File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1310, in
>>> _find_and_load_unlocked
>>>         File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 488, in
>>> _call_with_frames_removed
>>>         File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1387, in _gcd_import
>>>         File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1360, in
>>> _find_and_load
>>>         File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1331, in
>>> _find_and_load_unlocked
>>>         File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 935, in _load_unlocked
>>>         File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 999, in
>>> exec_module
>>>         File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 488, in
>>> _call_with_frames_removed
>>>         File
>>> "C:\Users\chike\AppData\Local\Temp\pip-build-env-pw8idr9h\overlay\Lib\site-packages\setuptools\__init__.py",
>>> line 17, in <module>
>>>           import setuptools.version
>>>         File
>>> "C:\Users\chike\AppData\Local\Temp\pip-build-env-pw8idr9h\overlay\Lib\site-packages\setuptools\version.py",
>>> line 1, in <module>
>>>           import pkg_resources
>>>         File
>>> "C:\Users\chike\AppData\Local\Temp\pip-build-env-pw8idr9h\overlay\Lib\site-packages\pkg_resources\__init__.py",
>>> line 2163, in <module>
>>>           register_finder(pkgutil.ImpImporter, find_on_path)
>>>                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>       AttributeError: module 'pkgutil' has no attribute 'ImpImporter'.
>>> Did you mean: 'zipimporter'?
>>>       [end of output]
>>>
>>>   note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is likely not a
>>> problem with pip.
>>> error: subprocess-exited-with-error
>>>
>>> × Getting requirements to build wheel did not run successfully.
>>> │ exit code: 1
>>> ╰─> See above for output.
>>>
>>> note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is likely not a
>>> problem with pip.
>>>
>>>
>>> Are there separate steps for installing on Windows?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Nnamdi
>>> On Monday, August 4, 2025 at 2:45:09 PM UTC-4 bzo...@wisc.edu wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Dan and Nnamdi,
>>>>
>>>> To add up, since the FSI and VSG support is not yet merged into the
>>>> main branch, if you want to use the PyChrono with FSI / VSG to simulate
>>>> granular terrain in addition to DEME, you need to use our special FSI
>>>> version rather than the regular version I posted in previous email. The
>>>> special FSI version can be installed via the following command in a NEW
>>>> environment:
>>>>
>>>> conda create -n chrono_test "python<3.13" -c conda-forge
>>>> conda install bochengzou::pychrono -c bochengzou -c nvidia -c dlr-sc -c
>>>> conda-forge
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Bocheng
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/4/25 18:24, 'Dan Negrut' via ProjectChrono wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That functionality for running granular problems from python: see
>>>> pyDEME, https://github.com/projectchrono/DEM-Engine
>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/projectchrono/DEM-Engine__;!!Mak6IKo!PkKSZCuBiSh-FgdG1GZVwOgPEWrn62SHqzHo482EL_A5V21Isb_oAn9S5AMaFqcONBr_5uh8rK27fuyFYz0y7JL9Uuc2CA$>.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We’ll probably have one integrated way to install everything (chrono &
>>>> DEM support) coming up in the very near future – next three months, most
>>>> likely. That’ll be through conda forge, a one line command, hopefully.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Bernard A. and Frances M. Weideman Professor
>>>>
>>>> NVIDIA CUDA Fellow
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Department of Computer Science
>>>>
>>>> University of Wisconsin - Madison
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> http://projectchrono.org/
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>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* 'Nnamdi Chikere' via ProjectChrono <projec...@googlegroups.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2025 1:14 PM
>>>> *To:* ProjectChrono <projec...@googlegroups.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [chrono] SDL2 Library Error while running PyChrono
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much. Adding the "/" character resolved the issue. Does
>>>> this version include the capability to simulate granular systems on Windows
>>>> using Python?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Nnamdi
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 4, 2025 at 2:07:48 PM UTC-4 bzo...@wisc.edu wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Nnamdi,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the follow up. Yes, on Apr 27, 2025, we renamed SetPlane
>>>> to SetReferenceFrame. The details can be found at
>>>> https://github.com/projectchrono/chrono/commit/59e3cb4ba24dbb258aa1543a971507a7d0bf2689
>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/projectchrono/chrono/commit/59e3cb4ba24dbb258aa1543a971507a7d0bf2689__;!!Mak6IKo!NTQLCak0Iwl-Hfht85Jhg4qWkG-A7VWM6pEEbrx0f8_cvW7ySAQlRFoQ1N0NTjfNyeBXHkTouURQJFrnTRiy0LLg6XM$>
>>>>
>>>> For the "Cannot open colormap data file
>>>> C:/Users/chike/Box/TurtleRobotExperiments/Sea_Turtle_Robot_AI_Powered_Simulations_Project/NnamdiFiles/mujocotest1/chrono/data../data/colormaps/jet-table-float-0512.csv"
>>>> issue, did you put a "/" character at the end of your
>>>> "chrono.SetChronoDataPath()" call? For example, you need to use
>>>> chrono.SetChronoDataPath("C:/Users/chike/Box/TurtleRobotExperiments/Sea_Turtle_Robot_AI_Powered_Simulations_Project/NnamdiFiles/mujocotest1/chrono/data/")
>>>> instead
>>>> of 
>>>> chrono.SetChronoDataPath("C:/Users/chike/Box/TurtleRobotExperiments/Sea_Turtle_Robot_AI_Powered_Simulations_Project/NnamdiFiles/mujocotest1/chrono/data")
>>>>
>>>> Once you applied that fix, could you please update on if the window
>>>> crash issue gets resolved?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Bocheng Zou
>>>>
>>>> On 8/4/25 17:58, 'Nnamdi Chikere' via ProjectChrono wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Bocheng,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It now works, but it broke certain parts of my code. Seems some of the
>>>> API and syntax have changed in this version. I noticed changes in the SCM
>>>>
>>>>   terrain = veh.SCMTerrain(sys)
>>>>
>>>>     *# rotate plane*
>>>>
>>>>     terrain.SetReferenceFrame(chrono.ChCoordsysd(
>>>>
>>>>         chrono.ChVector3d(0, scm_plane_y, 0),
>>>>
>>>>         chrono.QuatFromAngleX(-math.pi / 2)
>>>>
>>>>     ))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     *# Previous version used:*
>>>>
>>>>     terrain.SetPlane(chrono.ChCoordsysd(
>>>>
>>>>         chrono.ChVector3d(0, scm_plane_y, 0),
>>>>
>>>>         chrono.QuatFromAngleX(-math.pi / 2))
>>>>
>>>>     )
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Upon updating to the new version, I am now faced with a new error when
>>>> running the deformable soil ...
>>>>
>>>> Cannot open colormap data file
>>>> C:/Users/chike/Box/TurtleRobotExperiments/Sea_Turtle_Robot_AI_Powered_Simulations_Project/NnamdiFiles/mujocotest1/chrono/data../data/colormaps/jet-table-float-0512.csv
>>>> I have the data path correctly specified at the top of my code using
>>>> the chrono.SetChronoDataPath()
>>>>
>>>> And upon contact with the ground, the window crashes. Do you happen to
>>>> have any fixes for this? Also, are there any other changes to the syntax?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Nnamdi
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 1, 2025 at 10:17:21 PM UTC-4 bzo...@wisc.edu wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Nnamdi,
>>>>
>>>> I hope you're doing well.
>>>>
>>>> We're excited to share that we've refactored the Conda build pipeline
>>>> and released updated distributions of PyChrono with improved cross-platform
>>>> compatibility, which is likely to resolve the issue you encountered.
>>>>
>>>> To try out the latest release, please create a new environment and run
>>>> the following commands (note that the installation command on the website
>>>> is now oudated):
>>>>
>>>> conda create -n chrono_test python=3.12 -c conda-forge
>>>>
>>>> conda install pychrono -c projectchrono -c dlr-sc -c conda-forge
>>>>
>>>> Please let us know if there are any remaining issues.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Bocheng Zou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/31/25 00:48, Bocheng Zou wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Nnamdi,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for providing the information. The Windows conda build for
>>>> PyChrono is having know issues recently. We are aware of that and it's
>>>> expected to be fixed within the week. If you are in urgent need of
>>>> PyChrono, I suggest you build from scratch using cmake (Method A) or use
>>>> PyChrono's conda distribution on Linux.
>>>>
>>>> I will keep you posted once the issue in the Windows conda distribution
>>>> is fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Bocheng Zou
>>>>
>>>> On 7/31/25 00:45, 'Nnamdi Chikere' via ProjectChrono wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Bocheng,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for reply.
>>>>
>>>> I installed PyChrono via method C. PyChrono through Conda (ref:
>>>> https://api.projectchrono.org/pychrono_installation.html
>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/api.projectchrono.org/pychrono_installation.html__;!!Mak6IKo!MLRxot5akRpE7PKpP5V6eTs6EVAmfOwIgWN8nnv81XgdLQUax6qVtwZPINjM2zrnQxAA_GMxqAg8ScgcDXtHvaj1guZPig$>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> For the last step I installed via  conda install
>>>> pychrono-9.0.1-py310_5372.tar.bz2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Nnamdi
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, July 30, 2025 at 12:18:25 PM UTC-4 bzo...@wisc.edu wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Nnamdi,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for reaching out. I'm Bocheng and I'm a UW-Madison student
>>>> responsible for PyChrono distributions. Could you please clarify the
>>>> specific way you install the PyChrono? We currently support three ways of
>>>> installation on Windows.
>>>>
>>>> A. Build from scratch using cmake (ref:
>>>> https://api.projectchrono.org/tutorial_install_chrono.html
>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/api.projectchrono.org/tutorial_install_chrono.html__;!!Mak6IKo!MLRxot5akRpE7PKpP5V6eTs6EVAmfOwIgWN8nnv81XgdLQUax6qVtwZPINjM2zrnQxAA_GMxqAg8ScgcDXtHvahYwqyiWQ$>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> B. Precompiled binaries for Windows (ref:
>>>> https://projectchrono.org/download/
>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/projectchrono.org/download/__;!!Mak6IKo!MLRxot5akRpE7PKpP5V6eTs6EVAmfOwIgWN8nnv81XgdLQUax6qVtwZPINjM2zrnQxAA_GMxqAg8ScgcDXtHvahDjDCVhA$>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> C. PyChrono through Conda (ref:
>>>> https://api.projectchrono.org/pychrono_installation.html
>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/api.projectchrono.org/pychrono_installation.html__;!!Mak6IKo!MLRxot5akRpE7PKpP5V6eTs6EVAmfOwIgWN8nnv81XgdLQUax6qVtwZPINjM2zrnQxAA_GMxqAg8ScgcDXtHvaj1guZPig$>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> Could you please specify the way you install the chrono? This will be
>>>> helpful for us to investigate the issue further.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Bocheng Zou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/28/25 21:22, 'Nnamdi Chikere' via ProjectChrono wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have recently been faced with an error whenever I try to run any
>>>> Python programs in PyChrono. Has anyone encountered this before? I use
>>>> Visual Studio Code and Pychrono 9.0.1 on a Windows PC. I followed all the
>>>> steps for installing Pychrono in a virtual environment. I have tried
>>>> uninstalling and reinstalling, but it hasn't helped. Everything worked fine
>>>> in the same env, this error just appeared suddenly. Please, I would like
>>>> some advice on this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>>
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