In short, mobile only (listening to schuhplattner music somewhere in the Austrian alps; the music is not intentionally): * Breeze & co. originals in git should be done * ux-advice: keep it, because many bugs are not easy to file against a certain component * tracking of needsux: sure, can do that; but many people may understand enhancements similar to ux, which needs to get covered (or better we restrict our trust in the numbers)
Not sure if I'll make it this Thursday. We published a post about online media integration and got some +1. Mostly because media player is not present at all. Would be good to get an update on this issue. @bjoern: pls forward if necessary. On August 16, 2016 5:11:01 PM GMT+02:00, Bjoern Michaelsen <[email protected]> wrote: >Forwarding ESC minutes as they seem to be missing on projects@ >----- Forwarded message from Jan Holesovsky <[email protected]> ----- > >Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:07:34 +0200 >From: Jan Holesovsky <[email protected]> >To: libreoffice-dev <[email protected]>, Libreoffice-qa > <[email protected]> >Subject: Minutes of ESC call: 2016-08-11 >X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.11 > >* Present: Lionel, Eike, Sophie, Christian, jan I, Kendy, Caolán, >David, > Armin, Michael S, Robinson, Jan-Marek, Thorsten > >* Completed Action Items: >+ ask for the script to change ::std -> std, check it in & queued up >for the merge window (JanI) > >* Pending Action Items: > + poke at MSDN licenses (Michael) > [ waiting for a response on new process, on holiday ? ] > + investigate a cron job that queries & auto-merges (Norbert) > [ the solution proposed by David - using his query & a JSON script > to refine it - will work - needs a bit more python (Norbert) ] >+ tweak UI and get LiveConnect API key / build case for board >(Christian) > + attempt to re-build a recent gstreamer 1.0 / core spec file > on our CentOS6 base (tdf#94508) (Christian) >+ Program committee to work on the Conf. program (Kendy, Thorsten, >Italo, Marina) >+ for breeze etc. originals, find out who needs commit access & enable >them to do it (Heiko) > >* Release Engineering update (Christian) > + 5.1.6 - in October > + 5.2.1 RC1 > + has been tagged yesterday, builds uploading (except OS X) > + when uploaded, will announce > + Android & iOS Remote > >* LibreOffice Conference in Brno (Kendy) >+ >https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2016/04/08/libreoffice-brno-conference-call-for-paper/ > + travelling to Brno -> fly to Vienna / Prague unlikely to go direct > (BMI has a flight from Munich, others from London). >+ >https://conference.libreoffice.org/2016/practical-info/general-planing/ > + Community-day -> no ESC, meet in the evening. > >* Membership Committee plug (Michael) > + Please send nominations and self-nominations via e-mail to > [email protected] (which reaches the Board of > Directors in private) and also (!) to > [email protected] (which is a public mailing > list). We kindly ask nominees who would like to stand for > elections to provide a statement of up to 75 words on their > candidacy as continuous text (so no bullet lists or multiple > paragraphs). In addition, please also provide your full name, > e-mail address and your corporate affiliation, if any, and > please announce that you will provide information on all future > changes as soon as possible. > + tooling uses git & is user-friendly for devs. > >* Documentation (Olivier) >+(had an hard-disk failure and spend time rebuilding computer from >scratch and restoring backup) >+ please approve https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/27028/ and >https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/27857/ >AI: + will check it (Cloph) > + investigated gitbook for collaborative book writing > + not so much different than editing a wiki page. Has pros and cons > + Has issue on importing existing ODT book - investigating > >* GSoC 2016 (Thorsten) >+ Next deadline is August 23rd 19:00 UTC for students to submit their >work > + Mentors then review, final deadline for mentor eval is August 29th > + reminder - blogging at a minimum helps docs / QA teams etc. > + !!! soft pen-down next Monday (15th), on 23rd deliver & package > + to be frozen and delivered after that >+ important that the students deliver that on time, otherwise they'll >be failed > + 6 students attending the Conference > >* UX Update (Heiko) >+ can we start to monitor the unresolved bugs with "needsUXeval" here >regularly? (Bjoern) > + like we do for e.g. QA (needinfo) and mentoring (easyhacks) > + currently 164 (22 touched last week): >https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&keywords=needsUXEval%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=627266&order=changeddate%20DESC%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severity&product=LibreOffice&query_format=advanced&resolution=--- >https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&chfieldfrom=-7d&chfieldto=Now&keywords=needsUXEval%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=627267&product=LibreOffice&query_format=advanced&resolution=--- >+ urgh, I see we have that already (@jani: or is that EasyHacks only? >or global?) >+ would be good though to discuss additions (bugs with new needsUXeval) >and removals (bugs with solved needsUXeval) >+ according to ESC minutes since Jul 14 we gained some 21 unresolved >(+15% in one month) >+ actually seems to be monitored already, but not much discussed >(Bjoern) > + needsUXeval excludes from easyhacks (jani) > + needsUXeval is a replacement for component ux-advice (Kendy) > + should we kill ux-advice? (Bjoern) > + punt this to when Heiko is back (Kendy) >+ not sure if there was already the decision to kill the ux-advice >Component (Kendy) >+ would make sense to do so though, it's confusing to have both >(Bjoern) > >+ important: don't forget to remove needsuxeval when the evaluation >actually happens (JanI) > >* Crashtest update (Caolan) > + 0 import failure, 0 export failures, coverity pending > >* "make debug=T" doesnt build with symbols anymore (Bjoern) > + instead "make debug=T enable_symbols=T" is needed > + not objecting to this in principle (Bjoern) > + in fact, I would have objections (Thorsten) > + me too (Jan-Marek) >+ for the command line a new env var doing both might be a compromise >(Bjoern) > + what is the use-case, actually? (Eike) > + want to have enable_symbols implied by debug too (Thorsten) > + no idea what was the reason (Bjoern) >AI: + explain the reason / bring it to some ESC when Stephan is here >(Stephan / Bjoern) > + let's have this talk when Shephan is here >+ while at it, please consider killing the ALLCAPS versions (make >DEBUG=T ENABLE_SYMBOLS=T) (Bjorn) >+ they were just kept for backwards compatibility, which we are >breaking now anyway (Bjoern) > + caps actually isnt cruise-control for cool (Bjoern) > + Why call it enable_symbols and not just symbols? (Jan-Marek) > >* Hackfests (Bjoern) > + next hackfests: nothing confirmed yet. > + next venues / suggestions > + Akademy / FSFE summit - in the week before LibOCon ? (Thorsten) > https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1999 > + more suggestions welcome > >* Mentoring/easyhack update (janI) >+ legend: contributors are not-yet-committers, numbers in () are +/- >compared to last week > + summary: >16823(0) commits in a year of which 7869(-25) were made directly, >without use of gerrit >287(0) people made commits in a year, 52(-12) in a month. 17(5) people >to be emailed > + gerrit: committer open 75(10) contributor open 43(-27) > updated merged abandoned updated merged abandoned > year: 75(10) 7386(22) 577(-5) 43(-27) 1568(3) 504(18) > month: 74(10) 630(-21) 33(0) 43(-27) 180(-6) 52(16) > week: 41(6) 136(-31) 5(-3) 23(-17) 32(-24) 22(18) > + easyHacks: > total 253(5) open 215(0) assigned 15(1) > needinfo 23(4) needsDevEval 481(8) needsUXEval 163(8) > missing cleanup due to many comments 206(6) > + top 5 contributors (based on merged patches last month): >Zdenek Crhonek got 84 patches merged, and have a total of 174 merged >patches >Stanislav Horáček got 20 patches merged, and have a total of 79 merged >patches >Muhammet Kara got 10 patches merged, and have a total of 55 merged >patches >Winfried Donkers got 8 patches merged, and have a total of 38 merged >patches >Susobhan Ghosh got 8 patches merged, and have a total of 22 merged >patches > + new easyHacks: >https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101417 >mentor:kaajoo -> "Alt accelerators in menus not unique" >https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101442mentor:bjoern.michaelsen >-> "Hyperlink is terribly dated vocabulary" >+ create your own by updating Keywords to eg. "easyHack, >difficultyBeginner, skillCpp, topicCleanup" >+ please remember, a codepointer is mandatory, and typically a look >from an experienced developer >+ create new easy hacks from these ones or remove "needsDevEval" if not >feasible): > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=needsDevEval > > + Updated all largeScale easyhack with a warning > + Abandoned largeScale gerrit patches, updated others > + Updated online repo, to prepare for automatic pootle updates > > + abandoned about 5 patches - large scale etc. > >* Commit Access > >* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten) > => timeout for 3 weeks. > >* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert) > + Norbert on vacation > + apparently a low bus-factor here (Bjoern) > + howto generate the stats (for folks with infra karma): > log on ci.libreoffice.org > $ sudo su - ci > $ ./job_stats.pl 7 > via cloph: >master linux rel jobs: 106 ok: 106 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: > 0 broken duration: 0.00% >master linux dbg jobs: 99 ok: 55 ko: 44 fail ratio: 44.44 % break: > 3 broken duration:66.59% >master mac rel jobs: 99 ok: 99 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: > 0 broken duration: 0.00% >master mac dbg jobs: 102 ok: 100 ko: 1 fail ratio: 0.98 % break: > 1 broken duration: 0.43% >master win rel jobs: 95 ok: 94 ko: 1 fail ratio: 1.05 % break: > 1 broken duration: 0.69% >master win dbg jobs: 93 ok: 92 ko: 1 fail ratio: 1.08 % break: > 1 broken duration: 2.04% >master win64 dbg jobs: 98 ok: 76 ko: 21 fail ratio: 21.43 % break: >13 broken duration:20.94% >lo-5.2 mac jobs: 20 ok: 19 ko: 1 fail ratio: 5.00 % break: > 1 broken duration: 0.00% >lo-5.1 mac jobs: 9 ok: 8 ko: 1 fail ratio: 11.11 % break: > 1 broken duration:18.71% > gerrit win rel jobs: 12 ok: 11 ko: 1 fail ratio: 8.33% > gerrit lin rel jobs: 12 ok: 12 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00% > gerrit mac rel jobs: 11 ok: 10 ko: 1 fail ratio: 9.09% > gerrit all jobs: 209 ok: 169 ko: 39 fail ratio:18.66% > >* l10n (Sophie) > + work going on as normal > >* Anybody who knows about the installer stuff not on vacation? (Caolan) >+ Andras would be the best person - but on vacation until the end of >the week (Kendy) > >* QA update (Robinson) > > + UNCONFIRMED: 615 > + enhancements: 67 > + in ux-advise: 25 > + needAdvice at 65 > > + bugs went down, good (Robinson) > > + Most Pressing Bugs: > http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs >+ tdf#100925 - When overwriting a cell, new content is displayed on top >of the old content until finishing the edit > + Mail merge regressions > + http://tdf.io/mmregressions (3 open; 3 open last meeting) > + maybe will be down to 2 (Robinson) > >+ in case snap or flatpak issues are noticed, please whiteboard them >with "snap" or "flatpak" > >* QA stats > >+ >https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html > +162 -158 (+4 overall) > many thanks to the top bug squashers: > Buovjaga 18 > Caolán McNamara 17 > Regina Henschel 15 > Aron Budea 14 > Eike Rathke 11 > Bartosz 9 > V Stuart Foote 7 > mahfiaz 7 > Adolfo Jayme 7 > Heiko Tietze 6 > Yousuf (Jay) Philips 6 > Cor Nouws 5 > Alex Thurgood 4 > Miklos Vajna 3 > Robinson Tryon (qubit) 3 > >* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"): > 5.2: 1/16 - 6% > 5.1: 2/30 - 6% > 5.0: 7/53 - 13% > 4.4: 7/73 - 9% > 4.3: 5/69 - 7% > 4.2: 8/133 - 6% > 4.1: 4/79 - 5% > 4.0: 8/82 - 9% > old: 31/246 - 12% > >* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected' > + 325 (of 1383) older ? > + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q > >* all bugs tagged with 'regression' > + 688(+0) bugs open of 5090(+24) total 10(-1) high prio. > > * ~Component count net * high severity regressions > Calc - 4 (+0) > Writer - 3 (-1) > Base - 1 (+0) > LibreOffice - 1 (+0) > Impress - 1 (+0) > + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E > > * ~Component count net * all regressions > Writer - 213 (-2) > Calc - 123 (-2) > Impress - 53 (+1) > LibreOffice - 44 (+0) > graphics stack - 39 (+1) > UI - 37 (+3) > Base - 31 (+0) > Borders - 31 (-1) > Crashes - 31 (+1) > Draw - 27 (+0) > filters and storage - 21 (+0) > Chart - 15 (+0) >Printing and PDF export - 12 (+1) > BASIC - 11 (+1) > Linguistic - 4 (+0) > framework - 3 (+0) > Formula Editor - 3 (+0) > Extensions - 3 (+0) > sdk - 1 (+0) > Installation - 1 (+0) > + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i > > > >_______________________________________________ >LibreOffice mailing list >[email protected] >https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice > >----- End forwarded message ----- > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] >Problems? >http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: >http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >deleted -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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