Coba jelasin yang bilang bumi Flat Quran tapi kok yang dibakar hidup2 Galileo itu nalare piye? Opo Galileo itu hidup di Arab? Tawangalun. - In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Jusfiq Hadjar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sekedar tambahan informasi, saya ulang mengirim alinea ini: > > "The earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an atheist > deserving of punishment." (Sheik Abdel-Aziz ibn Baaz, the > supreme religious authority of Saudi Arabia, 1993, quoted by > Yousef M. Ibrahim, The New York Times, 12 February 1995) > > > On 24 Dec 2004, at 9:46, batara guru wrote: > > > > > The Earth > > > > > > Several thousand years ago, the Holy Bible clearly recorded that the earth is round and that it is hung on nothing. > > > > "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth" (Isa. 40:22). > > > > "He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth on nothing" (Job 26:7). > > > > > > > > Yet, the Qur'an challenges these established scientific facts. In many places, it alludes to the fact that the earth is flat and its mountains are like poles which create a balance so that the Earth does not tilt. Let us consider what the Qur'an says about the Earth: > > > > In chapter 88:17,20, it is recorded, > > > > "Will they not regard the camels how they are created...and the Earth how it is spread?" > > > > In page 509, the Jalalan says, > > > > "In his phrase, `how it is spread', he denotes that the earth is flat. All the scholars of Islami > c law agree upon this. It is not round as the physicists claim." > > > > The Qur'anic teaching is obvious from the comment of Jalalan that "the earth is flat and not roun > d as the scientists claim". What made Jalal al-Din say so is that the Qur'an hints in many chapters > that the earth is flat(refer to 19:6, 79:30, 18:7, and 21:30). Also the Qur'an indicates that: > > > > "We have placed in the earth firm hills lest it quake so as not to sway and hurt people" (21:31). > > > > > Scholars who agree upon the meaning of this verse believe as the Jalalan states (pp. 270-271), > > > > "God has founded firm mountains on earth lest it shake people." > > > > > > On page 429, al-Baydawi says, > > > > "God has made firm mountains on earth lest it sway people and quake. He also made heaven as a cei > ling and kept it from falling down!" > > > > The Zamakhshari agrees with the above authors and reiterates the same words (refer to Zamakhshari > part 3, p. 114). > > > > > > In the Qur'an (chapter 50:7), we find another verse which carries the same meaning, > > > > "And the earth have we spread out, and have flung firm hills therein" (Surah Qaf: 7). > > > > This is accompanied by the same comment by the above Muslim scholars (refer to Jalalan, p. 437; B > aydawi, p. 686, Tabari, p. 589, and Zamakhshari, part 4, p. 381). All of them assure us that "if it > were not for these unshakable mountains, the earth would slip away." > > > > Zamakhshari, the Baydawi and the Jalalan say: "God has built heaven without pillars but He placed > unshakable mountains on Earth lest it tilts with people." Concerning chapter 50:7, the Suyuti says > that scholars indicate that "Qaf is a mountain which encompasses the entire earth" (refer to Itqan > , part 3, p. 29). Qaf is an Arabic L like K. > > > > > > These are the comments of the ancient Muslim scholars word for word. Even some Saudi scholars wro > te a book a few years ago to disprove the spherical aspect of the earth and they claimed that it is > a myth, agreed with the above mentioned scholars, and said we must believe the Qur'an and reject t > he spherical aspect of the earth. > > > > > > It is also well-known that the Qur'an proclaims that there are seven earths�not just one (refer t > o the commentary of the Jalalan, p. 476, al-Baydawi, p. 745 as they interpret chapter 61:12, Surah > Divorce: 1 2). > > > > > > It is very clear that the sun does not traverse the heaven and set down in a murky, muddy well, o > r slimy water, or a place which contains both of them as the Baydawi, Zamakhshari, and the Qur'an r > emark. > > > > > > Nor is the earth flat and the mountains the pillars and the towerings which prevent the earth fro > m moving as the Qur'an and the scholars said. Nor is there a mountain which encompasses the whole e > arth�nor are there seven earths. > > > > > > Neither is the lightning an angel whose name is Rafael, nor is the thunder an angel. It never hap > pened that the angel Gabriel inspired Muhammad to write a complete chapter about his friend the ang > el thunder! The thunder and lightning are natural phenomena and not God's angels like Michael and G > abriel as the prophet of Islam claims. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $4.98 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Q7_YsB/neXJAA/yQLSAA/uTGrlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! 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