Perkembangan kapitalisme - ekonomi dunia - kini sudah sampai
    pada titik, dimana perang untuk menyelesaikan pertikaian antar
    negara bukanlah lagi sebuah option. 

    Dan perselisihan ekonomi antar negara juga bisa diselesaikan
    melalui WTO, perselisihan perbatasan antara negara bertetangga
    juga bisa diselesaikan melalui lembaga judiciary PBB... 

    Jadi buat apa ada tentara? 

    Yang diperlukan oleh negara hanya polisi buat menjaga keamanan
    tiap penduduknya. 

    Sudah saatnya kita memikirkan untuk menyatakan Indonesia bebas
    militer. 

    Militer untuk Indonesia itu hanya biang sengsara. 


On 31 Jan 2005, at 21:59, Humprey Samosir wrote:

> Bukankah ini praktek yang kita lihat sehari hari di Indonesia?
> Pada kenyataannya, seperti adanya Babinsa, Muspika setempat yang
> terdiri dari elemen AD dan Pol? Terlebih sistem yang dilansir dari
> regime Suharto, mulai dari Bakornas hingga Bakornastrada,
> Kopkamtib and the whole nine yards. Grip militer dalam pemerintahan
> terutama AD sudah overlaping terhadap tugas Polisi hingga
> sekarang. Jika ada protes masyarakat yang melibatkan ribuan orang
> ternyata yang dikerahkan adalah Garnisun SSK, bukannya Brimob atau
> pasukan anti huruhara yang mempunyai less lethal weapon. Saya
> jurang tahu pasti apakah banyak manfaat jika Indonesia bebas
> militer, saya kira itu terserah pengambil keputusan di Dap.Han dan
> Cilangkap. In a nutshell, saya setuju pendapat anda, karena jikalau
> tidak bisa membiayai dan mengembangkan kekuatan TNI, istilahnya
> daripada memelihara barang "konsumsi kolektor" bukankah
> pembelanjaan di sektor ini digunakan untuk penggalakan sektor
> lainnya yang lebih nyata dampak positifnya. Karena jika dilihat
> tiga dasawarsa kedepan, belanja militer untuk meremajakan dan
> melatih personel sama saja dengan membuang garam dilaut (no use).
> Padahal perekonomian Indonesia pasca Tsunami adalah imposible
> untuk menggemukkan belanja militer. Semper Fidelis, H.H Samosir
> Merenung dibawah Sathergate: 'Let there be Light' --- end --- 
> 
> 
> Jusfiq Hadjar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Jadi: "The Army is primarily concerned with its control and
> responsibilities with regard to national unity and maintenance
> of public order. " 
> 
> Yang adalah tugas polisi. 
> 
> Jadi: mari kita tuntut agar Indonesia bebas militer. 
> 
> Kalau ada selisih atau sengketa perbatasan dengan negara tentangga bisa
> diselesaikan melalui badan peradilan internasional... 
> 
> 
> On 30 Jan 2005, at 18:02, Humprey Samosir wrote:
> 
> > The Indonesian Defence forces consist of not only the regular 
> military services but also a much larger number of militia and the 
> special branch of national police. As a consequence, their available 
> military force appears quite large, until examined closely.
> > 
> > 
> > The Army
> > The Indonesian Defence forces are large, even by world 
> standards they are quite big. They have, according to the 2003 
> Dept. of Defence Almanac 276,000 personnel in uniform. However, 
> numbers are not everything. Of the 204,500 which are actually in 
> the Army (as against their Navy and Air Force), only approximately, 
> just over 31,000 are actually available as "mobile" forces in their 
> KOSTRAD (28,000), KOPASSUS (3,500) units. The other 173,000 
> are involved in "Territorial Defence" units which are dedicated to 
> defensive purposes and more appropriately could be called internal 
> security units, as well as being used on civil infrastructure projects.
> > Therefore, unless the Indonesian high command was willing to run 
> the risk of the peripheral islands rising in rebellion or attempting 
> outright succession, it is highly unlikely that those units would be 
> withdrawn for use in any attempted hypothetical attack on Australia. 
> Indeed, considering the high importance placed by the Indonesian 
> Defence forces on national cohesion and their role in maintaining it, 
> one would be very surprised to see these units being withdrawn 
> from that role, re-equipped for normal military maneauvre 
> operations and trained in how to undertake them.
> > ..........................................
> > 
> --- cut ---
> 




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