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No Need to Believe: Indonesia's Atheists
Marcel Thee | January 18, 2012

At first glance, Karl Karnadi may look like any other 20-something trying to 
find his place in the world. It doesn’t take long, however, to realize there is 
something positively different about him. 

Consciously argumentative, eagerly opinionated and thoroughly knowledgeable, 
Karl stands for something many Indonesians still find utterly unfathomable: He 
is an outspoken atheist, and the founder of the rapidly growing Indonesian 
Atheists community. 

Karl, 29, does not keep his beliefs private, something many other Indonesian 
atheists have chosen to do in the face of frequent hostility. He makes no bones 
about his rejection of what he refers to as supernaturally infused beliefs, and 
he is passionate about fostering a fundamental change in Indonesia while 
remaining realistic about the challenges. 

Furthermore, Karl promotes tolerance, and is far less hostile toward religion 
than some of the world’s most recognized scholars of nonbelief such as Sam 
Harris, Daniel C. Dennett and Richard Dawkins. 

Established in 2008, Karl’s IA has 677 active members on its Facebook page who 
discuss the profusion of religiously related topics around the country. 

The IA community has also taken part in a variety of scientific and 
philosophical seminars and gatherings, and has expanded its ties with similar 
groups outside Indonesia. 

“We’ve built a network with other nonbelievers and humanist organizations in 
Southeast Asia,” Karl says. 

With other atheist associations in Malaysia, the Philippines and Singapore, IA 
has established a joint Web site called Southeast Asian Atheists, or 
sea-atheists.org, which hopes to broaden the discussion among atheists from 
different backgrounds. 

“Starting last year, we have also affiliated ourselves with a global network 
called Atheist Alliance International, through which we build close contacts 
with similar communities around the world,” Karl said. “From Pakistan, Brazil, 
Ireland and Afghanistan, there are atheists and agnostics everywhere.” 

Karl’s road toward becoming one of the country’s most outspoken atheists was 
both unique and lengthy. Born in a country where faith takes a strong hold 
beginning at birth, he grew up religiously in a Christian home. 

By his own account, Karl, who now lives in Germany, was brought up in a very 
religious setting. “My childhood was filled with church activities,” Karl said. 

He was even a church pianist up until only two years ago. “I knew nothing about 
science, about skepticism,” he said. “I wasn’t a rebellious kid compared to 
others the same age. I accepted all religious teachings and never questioned it 
in the slightest.” 

But his family was also very religiously tolerant. He would often pay visits to 
acquaintances from other faiths during religious holidays, instilling a sense 
of open-mindedness, something that would eventually help to shape his atheism. 

“I went over to our Muslim neighbors every Idul Fitri to congratulate them. 
Eventually, every Christmas, our Muslim neighbors would also do the same,” he 
said. “This very valuable experience has stayed with me, and taught me that 
religious tolerance is not only possible, but also worth fighting for.” 

Karl’s acceptance of his religious upbringing, however, would undergo a crucial 
change after a move to Germany, where he went to study in his early 20s. 

He noticed a change in how many of his Indonesian peers began addressing 
themselves. Instead of identifying themselves according to a specific 
Indonesian ethnicity (such as Javanese or Balinese), they referred to 
themselves as strictly Indonesian. All the different levels of wealth, culture 
and regional identity that seemed so important back home were suddenly 
irrelevant. 

For Karl this change showed how people, when removed from their comfort zone 
and placed somewhere foreign, tend to bond with those who are most similar. And 
while these fellowships might be an obvious psychological response experienced 
by countless people, for Karl it was something more: An awakening. 

He realized that this rare feeling of nationalism was something to strive for, 
and something that could only be achieved if every Indonesian truly accepted 
all beliefs. Karl’s convictions evolved into an atypical form of atheism; 
instead of wanting to rid his country of organized religion, he wanted atheism 
to be an acknowledged part of a harmonious country. It was unlike most forms of 
irreligiousness, but Karl was convinced it could work. 

“It is sad that only after we experience loneliness in a foreign land are those 
feelings of nationalism evoked within us,” he said. “Indonesia does not belong 
to any particular group, nor does it belong to the majority; it belongs to 
every Indonesian, regardless of their religiosity, or lack thereof. We should 
always remember this.” 

Karl’s transformation from a tolerant-religious person to a tolerant-atheist 
came after what he calls years of learning and questioning. “I learned that 
people can be religion-less and still live a happy and moral-filled life full 
of passion and dreams,” he said. 

“My irreligiousness wasn’t shaped in an instant. About eight years ago, I 
started to acquaint myself with larger philosophical information and knowledge 
in documentaries and books,” he said. 

“At first, I did it all without any intention of leaving my religion. But the 
more I learned, the harder it was for me to accept any religious teachings, 
books or anything labeled as ‘holy.’ I started to question, and eventually 
doubt them.” 

Through this doubt, Karl concluded that there was nothing left for him in 
religion. “I found that all religion basically has the same dogmatism: That you 
should not question any given teachings,” he said. 

He began questioning some of the staunchly religion-based policies in 
Indonesia, such as why it is compulsory for an Indonesian to be registered 
under a religion in order to marry, or in some cases, study. The impossibility 
of even challenging these policies further enraged him. 

“Why must we be forced to shut our mouths against publicly criticizing religion 
or religious beliefs in general?” he said. “I refuse to submit to such 
restrictions, which are a clear violation of my human rights.” 

Once he openly pronounced himself a nonbeliever, Karl realized living by his 
convictions was going to be a challenge, even as an Indonesian living abroad. 

“There are many Indonesian nonbelievers who aren’t as lucky as me,” he said. 
“Living in Indonesia, they have to lead a double life and are forced to pretend 
they are religious in order to avoid trouble, discrimination and all forms of 
negative repercussions, including the violent ones.” 

He says that living in Germany shields him from most of his acquaintances’ 
reactions. As he learned more about atheism and religion, it also became clear 
just how necessary an open forum was to discuss the variety of beliefs. So it 
only seems natural that IA came to fruition. 

“IA was established to function as a safe haven for the Indonesian 
nonbelievers, and to eventually accommodate a lot of other people, not just 
atheists and agnostics, but also some ‘moderate’ Muslim and Christian friends 
that we have. The IA group has evolved from an exclusive online Facebook group 
to a real community with real people and real support,” he said. 

As IA expands its membership, its notoriety has followed suit. Karl and his 
peers regularly engage in heated (though rarely immature or disrespectful) 
arguments on their Facebook page. These debates are not only with religious 
believers, but also with fellow skeptics. 

“It is funny that some people still see our atheist group as the enemy,” Karl 
said. “All that we are doing is seeking friends and acceptance. While I don’t 
personally believe in any form of religion, I do believe in religious freedom. 
And I’ve passionately defended the rights of GKI Yasmin Christians, Shia Islam, 
Ahmadiyyah and Buddhists to worship according to their beliefs, just as I am 
defending my own right to not worship anything and to express my opinions 
freely.” 

Though IA has yet to achieve everything Karl and his peers want — namely 
complete freedom to not believe — they have found comfort in each other’s 
presence. 

“We Indonesian nonbelievers are still highly discriminated against, both by the 
law and a lot of people, but at least we have each other and no longer feel 
alone and disheartened,” Karl said. 

“We’ve also gotten a lot of support from some of our religious friends who are 
also very passionate in their fight against religious discrimination.” 

Karl said he didn’t know what the future held for IA. “But I dream of an 
Indonesia where people of various religions or no religion can live side by 
side without fear. And for Indonesia to truly become a Bhinneka Tunggal Ika 
[Unity in Diversity] country that sees diversity truly as a strength, not a 
weakness.” 

For more information go to, www.sea-atheists.org/indonesia


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