Jadi layaknya nasarani tukang putar balik fakta, maka si item entah karena 
dongoknya atawa kemakan bualan pendeta/misonarisnya memutarbalikan fakta soal 
hitler. Nah bacalah artikel dibawah bagaimana hitler terinspirasi ajaran bible 
untuk membunuhi orang. 

Lain kali kalo dongok jangan sok tau ya Tem.



Hitler Was a Christian
The Holocaust was caused by Christian fundamentalism:
 
    History is currently being distorted by the millions of 
Christians who lie to have us believe that the Holocaust was not a 
Christian deed.  Through subterfuge and concealment, many of today’s 
Church leaders and faithful Christians have camouflaged the Christianity of 
Adolf Hitler and have attempted to mark him an atheist, a pagan cult 
worshipper, or a false Christian in order to place his misdeeds on 
those with out Jesus.  However, from the earliest formation of the Nazi 
party and throughout the period of conquest and growth, Hitler expressed his 
Christian support to the German citizenry and soldiers. Those who 
would make Hitler an atheist should turn their eyes to history books 
before they address their pews and chat rooms.
    Considering that Christianity has thus far been incapable of producing 
an unbiased, educated follower which speaks the truth, (I haven’t encountered 
any), I have 
been forced to dispel the myth by writing this essay.  It is not until I bring 
up his speeches, my personal info on the Nazi regime and their 
tactics that a Christian will begin to question what their clergy told 
them. (I am the offspring of a German soldier.  My Opa served under 
Hitler in WW2 and my father was raised during the time of the Nazi 
regime.  This is important information to take into consideration for I 
am privy to some info that most Americans do not know.  It is common for 
American media and education institutions to lie to their citizens 
concerning Nazi Germany.)  So, in presenting this information I must 
break it into four parts: 1) Facts about Hitler and his involvement with the 
Church.  2) How the Church was the catalyst for anti- Semitism.  3) Facts 
concerning how the Nazi regime drilled these beliefs into 
Germanic society.  4) Quotes Hitler made which prove he had a disdain for 
atheism/occultism, upheld his 
Christian faith, and hated Jews due to his Christianity.
 
Hitler’s involvement with the Church:
a) Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic during infancy in Austria .
b) As Hitler approached boyhood he attended a monastery school.  (On his 
way to school young Adolf daily observed a stone arch which was carved 
with the monastery’s coat of arms bearing a swastika.)
c) Hitler was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church.
d) As a young man he was confirmed as a “soldier of Christ.”  His most 
ardent goal at the time was to become a priest.  Hitler writes of his 
love for the church and clergy: “I had excellent opportunity to 
intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church 
festivals.  As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village 
priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable 
ideal.”  -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
e) Hitler was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by his church.  Matter of fact 
the Church felt he was JUST and “avenging for God” in attacking the Jews for 
they deemed the Semites the killers of Jesus.
f) Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the pope 
could appoint as a bishop in Germany , Spain and Italy .  In turn they 
surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican .  Hitler wrote a 
speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an excerpt: 
“The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany 
means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic 
Church.  This treaty shows the whole world clearly and 
unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is 
hostile to religion is a lie.”  Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to 
the Nazi Party
g) Hitler worked CLOSELY with Pope Pius in converting Germanic society and 
supporting the church.  The Church absorbed Nazi ideals and preached them as 
part of their 
sermons in turn Hitler placed Catholic teachings in public education. 
 This photo depicts Hitler with Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal 
nuncio in Berlin .  It was taken On April 20, 1939, when Orsenigo 
celebrated Hitler’s birthday.  The celebrations were initiated by 
Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) and became a tradition.
Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send “warmest 
congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and the 
dioceses in Germany with “fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are 
sending to heaven on their altars.”  (If you would like to know 
more about the secret dealings of Hitler and the Pope I recommend you get a 
book titled: Hitler’s Pope: The Secret History of 
Pius XII, by John Cornwell)
h) Due to Hitler’s involvement with the Church he began enacting doctrines of 
the Church as law.  He outlawed all abortion, raged a death war on 
all homosexuals, and demanded corporal punishment in schools and home. 
 Many times Hitler addressed the church and promised that Germany would 
implement its teachings: “The National Socialist State professes its 
allegiance to positive Christianity.  It will be its honest endeavor to 
protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure 
them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to 
constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today.”  
–Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934, to Catholic bishops 
to assure them that he would take action against the new pagan 
propaganda “ Providence has caused me to be Catholic, and I know 
therefore how to handle this Church.”  -Adolf Hitler, reportedly to have said 
in Berlin in 1936 on the enmity of the Catholic Church to National Socialism
 
How Christianity was the catalyst of the Holocaust:
Hitler’s anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education.   Austria and 
Germany were majorly 
Christian during his time and they held the belief that Jews were an 
inferior status to Aryan Christians.  The Christians blamed the Jews for the 
killing of Jesus.  Jewish hatred did not actually spring from 
Hitler, it came from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant 
ministers throughout Germany for hundreds of years.  The Protestant 
leader, Martin Luther, himself, held a livid hatred for Jews and their 
Jewish religion.  In his book, “On the Jews and their Lies,” Luther set 
the standard for Jewish hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War 
2.  Hitler expressed a great admiration for Martin Luther constantly 
quoting his works and beliefs.
Now, you must remember before Hitler rose to Chancellor of 
Germany the country was in a deep economic depression due to the 
Versailles treaty.  The Versailles treaty demanded that Germans made 
financial reparations for the previous war and Germany simply was not 
self sufficient enough in order to pay the debt. Hitler was the leader 
that raised Germany out of the depression and brought them back to a 
world recognized power.  Due to his annulment of the financial woes of 
the Germanic people he became their redeemer and they anointed him as 
the leader of the German Reich Christian Church in 1933.  This placed 
him in power of the German Christian Socialist movement which legislates their 
political and religious agendas. It united all denominations, 
mainly the Protestant/Catholic and Lutheran people to instill faith in a 
national 
Christianity.
 
How the Nazi Regime converted the people:
a) In the 1920s, Hitler’s German Workers’ Party (pre Nazi term) adopted a 
“Programme” with twenty-five points (the Nazi version of a 
constitution).  In point twenty-four, their intent clearly demonstrates, from 
the very beginning, their stand in favor of a “positive” 
Christianity: “We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the 
State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the 
morality and moral sense of the German race.  The Party, as such, 
stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of 
creed to any 
particular confession...”
b) The Nazi regime started a youth movement which preached its agenda to 
impressionable children.  Hitler backed up the notion that all people 
need faith and religious education: “By helping to raise man above the 
level of bestial vegetation, faith contributes in reality to the 
securing and safeguarding of his existence.  Take away from present-day 
mankind its education-based, religious- dogmatic principles-- or, 
practically speaking, ethical-moral principles-- by abolishing this 
religious education, but without replacing it by an equivalent, and the 
result will be a grave shock to the foundations of their existence.”  – 
Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
c) The Nazi regime began to control schools insisting that Christianity was 
taught.
d) The Nazi regime included anti-Semitic Christian writings in textbooks 
and they were not removed from Christian doctrines until 1961.
e) The Nazi regime having full blown power over the people began to forcibly 
convert all its military.
f) The Nazi regime 
forced the German soldiers to wear religious symbols such as the 
swastika and they placed religious sayings on military gear.  An example here 
is this German army belt buckle (I believe my Opa had one) which 
reads “Gott Mit Uns”.  For those of you who do not speak German it is 
translated as “God With Us”.
g) The German troops were often forced to get sprinkled with holy water 
and listen to a sermon by a Catholic priest before going out on a 
maneuver.
h) The Nazis created a secret service called the “SS Reich” that would act as 
spies on the dealings of other citizens.  If anyone was suspected of heresy 
(Going not only against 
the Socialist party but CHURCH DOCTRINE) they would be prosecuted.
 
Quotes from Hitler:
    Hitler’s speeches and proclamations, even more clearly, reveal his 
faith and feelings toward a Christianized Germany.  Nazism presents an 
embarrassment to Christianity and demonstrates the danger of their faith So 
they try to pin him on other theistic views.  The following words 
from Hitler show his disdain for atheism, and pagan cults, and reveal 
the strength of his Christian feelings:
    “National Socialism is not a cult-movement-- a movement for worship; it is 
exclusively a ‘volkic’ political doctrine based upon racial principles. 
 In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the care and leadership of a 
people defined by a common blood-relationship... We will not allow 
mystically- minded occult folk with a passion for exploring the secrets 
of the world beyond to steal into our Movement.  Such folk are not 
National Socialists, but something else-- in any case something which 
has nothing to do with us.  At the head of our programme there stand no 
secret surmisings but clear-cut perception and straightforward 
profession of belief.  But since we set as the central point of this 
perception and of this profession of belief the maintenance and hence 
the security for the future of a being formed by God, we thus serve the 
maintenance of a divine work and fulfill a divine will-- not in the 
secret twilight of a new house of worship, but openly before the face of the 
Lord…  Our worship is exclusively the cultivation of the natural, and 
for that reason, because natural, therefore God-willed.  Our humility is the 
unconditional submission before the divine laws of existence so far as they are 
known to us men.”  -Adolf Hitler, in Nuremberg on 6 
Sept.1938.  [Christians have always accused Hitler of believing in pagan cult 
mythology. What is written here clearly expresses his stand 
against cults.]
    “We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith.  We have 
therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that 
not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.” -Adolf 
Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933 [This statement clearly refutes 
modern 
Christians who claim Hitler as favoring atheism.  Hitler wanted to form a 
society in which ALL people worshipped Jesus and considered any 
questioning of such to be heresy.  The Holocaust was like a modern 
inquisition, killing all who did not accept Jesus. Though more Jews were killed 
then any other it should be noted that MANY ARYAN pagans and 
atheists were murdered for their non-belief in Christ.]
    Here Hitler uses the Bible and his Christianity in order to attack the Jews 
and uphold his anti-Semitism: 
    "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. 
 It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, 
recognized these Jews for 
what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s 
truth!  was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.  In boundless 
love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells 
us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to 
drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders.  How terrific 
was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison.  To-day, after 
two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly 
than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His 
blood upon the Cross.  As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be 
cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice…  And if 
there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting 
rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have 
also a duty to my own people."  –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 
(Norman H. Baynes, ed.  The 
Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 
19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
    "Christianity could not content itself with building up its own altar; it 
was 
absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the heathen altars. 
 Only from this fanatical intolerance could its apodictic faith take 
form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute presupposition." -Adolf Hitler 
Mein Kampf (It is quite obvious here that Hitler is referring to destructing 
the Judaism alters on which Christianity was founded.)
    "The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the 
living shape of the Jew."  -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (The idea of the devil and 
the Jew came out of medieval anti-Jewish beliefs based on interpretations from 
the Bible. 
Martin Luther, and teachers after him, continued this “tradition” up 
until the 20th century.)
    "With satanic joy in his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lurks in wait 
for the unsuspecting girl whom he defiles with his blood, thus stealing 
her from her people." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is common in war 
for one race to rape another so that they can “defile” the race and 
assimilate their own.  Hitler speaks about this very tactic here.)      
    “The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious 
education, the Jew himself.  His life 
is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true 
Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great 
founder of the new doctrine.  Of course, the latter made no secret of 
his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took 
the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all 
humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument 
for his business existence.  In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, 
while our present- day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish 
votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles 
with atheistic Jewish parties-- and this against their own nation.”–Adolf 
Hitler (Mein Kampf)
    "…the fall of man in paradise has always been followed by his expulsion."  
-Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf (See Genesis Chapter 3 where humankind is cast from 
Eden for their sins.  Hitler 
compares this to the need to exterminate the Jews for their sin against 
Christ.)
    “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the 
Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the 
work of the Lord.”  –Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
    “The anti-Semitism of the new movement [Christian Social movement] was 
based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”  –Adolf Hitler Mein 
Kampf (This quote is very interesting for it 
disperses the idea that Hitler raged war due to being an Aryan supremacist. He 
states quite clearly 
that he has a problem with Jews for their belief not race.  That is why 
many German Jews died in WW2 regardless of their Aryan nationality.)
“Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the very first 
prerequisite for success.  This persistence, however, can always and 
only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violence which does not 
spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be wavering and 
uncertain.”  –Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (Here Hitler is admitting that his war 
against the Jews were so successful because of his strong 
Christian Spirituality.)
Quotes from Other Nazis about Hitler and Religion:
    "Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party 
and the SS vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it 
was obstinately opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief 
associates, above all Goering and Gobbels, to remain members of the 
church. He too would remain a member of the Catholic Church, he said, 
although he had no real attachment to it. And in fact he remained in the church 
until his suicide."  (Inside the Third Reich by Albert Speer page 95-96) 
 




________________________________
 Dari: rezameutia <[email protected]>
Kepada: [email protected] 
Dikirim: Kamis, 1 Maret 2012 7:11
Judul: [proletar] Re: Belajar dari Jerman
 

  
ini kan makin menguatkan bahwa elu goblok banget dan level kecerdasannya 
dibawah babi.

mana mungkin orang islam di india yang minoritas bisa membantai 50 juta orang 
mayoritas?

pakai akal lu, tem.  punya otak nggak sih??

hitler ngebantai 6 juta orang yahudi dibantu orang islam?

ini kan cerita isapan kontol yang dipercaya si item penghisap kontol juga, 
bahwa hitler dibantu oleh nmufti palestina ngebantai yahudi.

bego banget sih lu, tem??

hitler ngebantai 6 juta orang yahudi dibantu dan direstui oleh paus pius.  
hitler adalah seorang katolik taat, jadi dia minta restu dari paus pius untuk 
ngebantai yahudi, bukannya minta doa restu mufti di palestina. 

bego banget dah...

--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote:
>
> Ottoman ngebantai 1,5 juta orang Armnenia, 1/2 juta orang Assyria dan jutaa 
> orang Balkan. Itu semua demi auloh. Indonesia aja ngebantai ratusan ribu 
> orang. Tambahin deh dgn di Syria, Uganda, Iraq, Iran, Aljazair, India, 
> pakistan dll, udah pasti jumlahnya jauh lebih banyak dr yg mati di tangan non 
> Islam. Di India aja, lebih dr 50 juta orang dibantai orang Islam, jauh di 
> atas apa yg dilakukan Hittler.
>  
> Hittler itu ngebantai orang Yahudi niru nabi lu, dibantu oleh orang Islam. 
> Makanya Hittler itu jadi pahlawan unt orang Islam dan jg unt bajingan kayak 
> si wawan. 
>  
>  
> 
> From: rezameutia <rezameutia@...>
> >To: [email protected] 
> >Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 6:26 AM
> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Belajar dari Jerman
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >gini deh, dari pada elu minta disuapin mulu kayak homo manja, mendingan 
> >balik lagi ke topiknya, udah pasti lebih banyak tentara kristen yang 
> >ngebantai dan membunuh orang dari pada tentara islam.
> >
> >kan lu bisa itung sendiri, hitler sendiri aja ngebantai 6 juta orang udah 
> >pasti jauh diatas orang yang dibantai tentara islam. belum lagi ditambah 
> >dengan tentara amerika ngebantai orang jepang dengan ngebom hiroshima dan 
> >nagasaki, ngebantai orang vietnam di perang vietnam, ngebantai orang korea 
> >di perang korea.
> >
> >mau ditambahin lagi, bego??
> >
> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Kayaknya lu belajar dr si Teddy cara puter lidah unt nutup2in ketololan 
> >> dan kebusukan lu.
> >>  
> >> Lu ngoceh ngebandingkan pembantaian orang Jepang oleh tentara Amrik dgn 
> >> pembantaian yg dilakukan orang Islam, tp lu ga bisa nunjukin seberapa 
> >> banyak pembantaian yg dilakukan tentara Amrik tsb.
> >>  
> >> Hehehe... orang Jepang ga ribut dgn Amrik soal dibomnya Hiroshima dan 
> >> Nagasaki, dan ga ada jg yg nyangkal adanya pemboman itu. Sebaliknya, orang 
> >> Islam terus nyangkal pembantaian thd orang Armenia, Assyria dan jg orang 
> >> Balkan lainnya oleh Ottoman Turki, sementara orang2 yg jadi korbannya itu 
> >> sampe sekarang masih terus nuntut spy Turki mengakui pembantaian tsb.
> >>  
> >> Jadi orang Islam itu emang tukang tipu selain jg tukang bantai.
> >>  
> >>  
> >> 
> >> From: rezameutia <rezameutia@>
> >> >To: [email protected] 
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:22 PM
> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Belajar dari Jerman
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  
> >> >Elu masih aja manja2 ama gw minta disuapin. Kenapa elu nggak nyari 
> >> >sendiri pake google?
> >> >
> >> >Gw udah berkali-kali bilang search pake google, tapi elu tetep aja masih 
> >> >manja minta disuapin ama gw. Dasar tipikal anjing pemalas pemakan taik.
> >> >
> >> >Mendingan, lu urusin tuh pacar lu si Jusfiq yang sekarang lagi mojok 
> >> >sambil mengulang-ngulang kalimat kagak ada berhentinya. Kesian gw ngeliat 
> >> >pacar elu yang udah tua bangka udah gitu hidupnya sengsara dan 
> >> >kelakuannya makin sarap.
> >> >
> >> >Gimana kalo lu kasih aja duit ratusan juta untuk pacar elu yang sarap itu?
> >> >
> >> >Hehehe....
> >> >
> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Jadi lu ga tau brp banyak orang Jepang yg dibantai tentara Amrik, 
> >> >> berarti lu cuma asal kaing2 doang.
> >> >>  
> >> >> Setelah PD2, Amrik ngebantu Jepang shg Jepang bisa makmur. 
> >> >>  
> >> >> Bandingkan dgn orang2 Islam, bukan cuma ngebantai orang, tp jg 
> >> >> ngerampok korbannya, merkosa ceweknya, memperbudak yg msh hidup dan 
> >> >> merampas tanahnya. Semua ini sesuai dgn sunnah nabi dan perintah auloh.
> >> >>  
> >> >>  
> >> >> 
> >> >> From: rezameutia <rezameutia@>
> >> >> >To: [email protected] 
> >> >> >Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:26 AM
> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Belajar dari Jerman
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >  
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hehehe ... lu yg ngoceh soal tentara Amrik ngebantai orang Jepang, 
> >> >> >> sekarang lu ga bisa jawab berapa banyak korbannya. Jadi lu ini cuma 
> >> >> >> asbun doang.
> >> >> >> ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >
> >> >> >hehehe....
> >> >> >
> >> >> >gw dah bilang, sifat manja dan minta disuapin mulu seperti kelakuan 
> >> >> >elu ama jusfiq nggak usah dibawa-bawa dah. apa sih susahnya tinggal 
> >> >> >elu search di google?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >atau, coba dah minta ama si jusfiq dengan genit.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Amrik ngebom Nagasaki dan Hiroshima unt menghentikan perang, orang 
> >> >> >> Islam ngebantai non Islam itu dlm rangka ibadah ngejilat pantat 
> >> >> >> auloh, jadi sesuai dgn ajran Islam.
> >> >> >> ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >
> >> >> >oo.., kayak elu ngembat emak sendiri, ngembat anak lu sendiri itu 
> >> >> >halal karena dalam rangka perintah tuhan dalam kidung agung ya??
> >> >> >
> >> >> >hehehe...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> From: rezameutia <rezameutia@>
> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:55 PM
> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Belajar dari Jerman
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'‚  
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Goblok, lu ga jawab pertanyaan gua, ada berapa orang Jepang yg 
> >> >> >> >> dibantai tentara Amrik?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Tem, kebiasaan lu yang minta disuapin dan manja ama pacar elu si 
> >> >> >> >Jusfiq tua bangka sialan nggak usah dibawa-bawa dah.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Kelakuan lu yang selalu dimanjain dan disuapin mulu ama si Jusfiq,, 
> >> >> >> >seperti ketika mulut lu mangap maka kontol si Jusfiq udah tersedia 
> >> >> >> >di depan mulut lu dan tinggal disepong ama elu. Kelakuan elu yang 
> >> >> >> >manja dan minta disuapin kayak gitu nggak usah dipamerin di milis 
> >> >> >> >ini tem.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Si babi item sok manja2 ama gw minta dicariin data korban bom atom 
> >> >> >> >Hiroshima dan Nagasaki. Emangnya elu kagak bisa nyari data sendiri 
> >> >> >> >di google?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> >> Lu mau jawab apa ga, terserah lu. Tp yg pasti adalah jumlah orang 
> >> >> >> >> yg dibantai oleh Ottoman Turki itu jauh lebih banyak dr orang 
> >> >> >> >> Jepang yg mati di tangan Amrik.
> >> >> >> >> ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> >> Dan bom atom di Hiroshima dan Nagasaki tujuannya adalah unt 
> >> >> >> >> menghentikan perang spy korbannya ga tambah banyak, krn jepang 
> >> >> >> >> masih terus ga mau nyerah biarpun udah kalah di mana2.
> >> >> >> >> ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> >> Di lain pihak, Ottoman dan orang2 Islam lainnya itu emang mau 
> >> >> >> >> ngebantai non Islam, bukannya mau ngurangi jumlah korban mati.
> >> >> >> >> ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> From: rezameutia <rezameutia@>
> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:54 AM
> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Belajar dari Jerman
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Coba lu bilang, ada berapa orang Jepang dibantai tentara Amrik?
> >> >> >> >> >> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >tuh kan, emang bener2 elu gobloknya kelewatan, artinya nggak 
> >> >> >> >> >salah lagi udah pasti level kecerdasan elu dibawah babi.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >mosok hari gini udah abad ke 21 masih ada orang yang kagak tau 
> >> >> >> >> >tentang bom atom hiroshima dan nagasaki? dasar bego!!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >udah dah, mendingan lu ngelocoin kontolnya jusfiq yang peot dan 
> >> >> >> >> >sekalian ngomongin tentang hiroshima dan nagasaki ama pacar lu 
> >> >> >> >> >si junkie tua itu. ntar kalo elu udah selesai ngelocoin jusfiq 
> >> >> >> >> >dan elu udah pinteran dikit, paling nggak level kecerdasan lu 
> >> >> >> >> >sama dengan babi, baru dah pamer ketololan lagi disini.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >gimana tem?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >hehehe...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> Hittler emang ngebantai orang Yahudi, dgn bantuan orang Islam. 
> >> >> >> >> >> Sampe sekarang jg Hittler jadi pahlawan orang Islam, ga ada 
> >> >> >> >> >> orang yg nyanjung Hittler selain orang islam dan orang kayak 
> >> >> >> >> >> si wawan.
> >> >> >> >> >> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> >> >> Hehehe.... coba lu kasih tau gua, berapa banyak orang dibantai 
> >> >> >> >> >> orang Kristen dan bandingkan dgn jumlah yg dibantai orang 
> >> >> >> >> >> Islam, di India aja orang Islam ngebantai puluhan juta. Di 
> >> >> >> >> >> Indonesia thn 1965-66, orang Islam ngebantai sekitar 1/2 juta 
> >> >> >> >> >> orang.
> >> >> >> >> >> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> >> >> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> From: rezameutia <rezameutia@>
> >> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:25 AM
> >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Belajar dari Jerman
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> >> >Lebih banyak orang islam atau orang kristen orang?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Itung aja berapa tentara amerika ngebantai orang jepang, 
> >> >> >> >> >> >hitler ngebantai orang yahudi? Orang islam sih nggak ada 
> >> >> >> >> >> >apanya dibandingkan kekejaman orang kristen.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Dan, yang paling penting nih tem...
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Berapa banyak babi yang dibantai oleh orang kristen 
> >> >> >> >> >> >dibandingkan oleh orang islam?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Hehehe....
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Kalo belajar, belajar dr orang islam aja.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Orang Islam ga ngaku orang Turki ngebantai jutaan orang 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Kristen, ga ngaku Syria ngebantai penduduknya sendiri, ga 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ngaku Saudi nindas orang Shia, ga ngaku Al Qaeda ngebantai 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> orang islam, ga ngaku orang Arab nganiaya tkw Indonesia dll.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: rezameutia <rezameutia@>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:43 AM
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Belajar dari Jerman
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >bagaimana dengan blanda yang muke tebel dan nggak punya 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >kemaluan?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >genocide di rawagede, genocide oleh westerling, it's 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >nothing.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >BIG NOTHING!!!
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], "Sunny" <ambon@> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Refl:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jangan lupa untuk juga belajar dari :
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Di Jepang malah kalau terbukti membuat kesalahan, karena 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> malu berani bunuh diri. Di Tiongkok ditembak mati.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Di USA, Blagojevitch, mantan gubernur Ilinois gara-gara 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> korupsi dihukum 14 tahun penjara ( 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/07/blagojevich-sentence-14-y_n_1134230.html
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  )
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Berapa tahun paling lama hukuman penjara bagi petinggi 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> koruptor di NKRI?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.siwalimanews.com/post/belajar_dari_jerman
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Wednesday, 22 February 2012
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Belajar dari Jerman
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> NEGERI ini terlampau sedikit menyimpan hal-hal yang baik 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> untuk dijadikan panduan, sehinggauntuk hal sepele pun, 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> kita harus belajar dari luar negeri. Misalnya, untuk 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> sekadar memiliki rasa malu, kita mesti berguru ke negeri 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> orang.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Presiden Jerman Christian Wulff mengajarkan rasa malu 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> itu kepada kita. Wulff memilih mundur dari jabatan 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> presiden pada Jumat (17/2), karena malu diguncang 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pemberitaan skandal korupsi.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dua kesalahan yang dilakukan Wulff. Dia diduga kuat 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> menerima fasilitas saat meminjam dana dari bank untuk 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> mencicil rumahnya sebelum menjadi presiden. Kedua, Wulff 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> diduga menekan harian Jerman Bild yang memberitakan 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> skandal korupsinya itu.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Wulff bukanlah sosok pengecut. Dia menggelar konferensi 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pers di Istana Presiden, Berlin, bersama istrinya, 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bettina. Secara tegas Wulff mengatakan Jerman 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> membutuhkan presiden yang didukung publik. Namun 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> kepercayaan itu semakin tergerus dan mulai mengganggu. 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Itulah alasan Wulff mundur.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tentu saja Wulff bukanlah tokoh pertama yang 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> mengundurkan diri saat duduk di puncak singgasana 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> kekuasaan. Di Brasil, banyak menteri mundur karena 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> tuduhan korupsi.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sepanjang 2011 paling kurang lima menteri Brasil 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> melepaskan jabatan karena diguncang skandal korupsi. 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Juga di Jepang dan Korea, banyak pejabat mundur bahkan 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> bunuh diri karena terbelit isu korupsi.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Pengunduran diri Wulff mengajarkan moral, etika, dan 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> rasa malu. Para pejabat publik mestinya memiliki standar 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> tentang nilai-nilai yang baik dan buruk, yang benar dan 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> salah. Pejabat juga harus memelihara perasaan enggan 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> melakukan sesuatu yang nista. Itulah rasa malu.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Namun moral, etika, dan rasa malu para pejabat publik 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> kita sudah lama luntur. Pejabat publik di sini meski 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> sudah menjadi tersangka, terdakwa, atau bahkan telah 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> divonis masuk bui karena perkara korupsi pun, enggan 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> mundur. Jabatan dan kekuasaan dijadikan tameng untuk 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> berlindung.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Skandal korupsi muncul hampir setiap hari melibatkan 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> baik pejabat pemerintah, DPR, maupun hakim, jaksa, dan 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> polisi. Ada kasus Wisma Atlet, ada perkara proyek 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hambalang, ada skandal Bank Century, dan sejumlah kasus 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> korupsi lain yang diduga melibatkan para elite negara.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beberapa nama anggota DPR, ketua umum partai, hingga 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> menteri sudah terus terang disebut dalam sidang di 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pengadilan. Namun, tidak seorang pun memberi contoh 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> secara sukarela menanggalkan jabatannya karena malu.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Rasa malu memang sudah hilang dari para pejabat publik 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> kita. Padahal, rasa malu merupakan kekuatan preventif 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> yang membentengi seseorang melakukan tindakan hina 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> seperti korupsi. Jika elite tidak lagi memiliki rasa 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> malu, mereka mudah dikuasai nafsu keserakahan.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sungguh memprihatinkan negeri ini. Sekadar rasa malu pun 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> kita sudah tidak punya sehingga harus belajar dari luar. 
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