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Interview: Taliban Spokesman Qari Yousef Ahmadi

15/04/2012

By Mohammed Al-Shafey

London, Asharq Al-Awsat- If you’ve ever wondered how the Taliban of 
Afghanistan recruit new followers, or how it communicates with the outside 
world, or what the average monthly salary of a Taliban fighter is; then 
all you have to do is visit the official [Taliban] website and put your 
questions to Qari Yousef Ahmadi, media spokesman for Taliban.

In an exclusive interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, Ahmadi stresses that 
winning the media war is winning more than half the battle, and that what 
is most important in the media war is "winning over the hearts and minds 
of followers, which can only be won by telling the truth.

The interview is as follows:

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Tell us about your background?

[Ahmadi] I am 37 years old. I studied modern sciences at a high school. I 
have memorized and chant the Koran, God willing. I finished sharia 
education in various religious schools. I recite poetry and am good at 
writing all forms of Arabic and Persian calligraphy. I speak Pashtu 
(mother tongue), Persian, and have some knowledge of Arabic, English, and 
Urdu.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] How long have you been involved in the Afghan jihad?

[Ahmadi] Since the final days of the jihad against the Communist rule in 
Afghanistan.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Are you married? Do you have children?

[Ahmadi] Yes, I am married and have sons. My son, Muhammad, is the oldest, 
and is 12 years old.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] In view of your engagement in jihad, how do you 
communicate with your family?

[Ahmadi] Most often I am away from my family and kinsfolk, but I am in 
constant touch with them.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] As an authentic Pashtu, which holy Koran's verse do you 
recite the most?

[Ahmadi] As a Muslim muhajid, I often recite verse 23 of Sura Al-Ahzab: 
"Among the believers are men who have been true to their covenant with 
God: of them some have completed their vow to the extreme, and some still 
wait, but they have not changed their determination in the least 
[Al-Ahzab, verse 33:23]

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Are you good at using social communication media, like 
the internet, Facebook, and Twitter?

[Ahmadi] Yes, praise be to God; I use computers and have pages on 
Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Why did you ban computers, television, girls' schools, 
and the internet during the Taliban rule of Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001?

[Ahmadi] Afghanistan's circumstances were then extremely difficult. 
Besides, there was the local fighting behind which many foreign parties 
stood. There was also the unjust blockade and sanctions imposed on us, let 
alone the poor economic situation. These factors prevented us from 
carrying out basic development projects in terms of education and health 
facilities, and other public services and utilities. We should not forget 
that the Soviets left the country in ruins, and planted millions of 
landmines, which killed and wounded people every day. In addition, the 
Soviets did not pay compensation for the ferocious war that destroyed 
Afghanistan. For this reason, the ban you mention was not deliberate on 
our part as much as it was imposed on us. It is like the aggressive war 
that the United States has imposed on us for more than 10 years. The 
things you mentioned were not banned in Afghanistan, for we did use 
computers in our administrative offices, and girls went to schools for 
medical education. We used and benefited from the internet; they were not 
banned, rather, their misuse was.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Do you have experts in computers and information 
technology?

[Ahmadi] Our youths are characterized by intelligence, resolve, and 
patience. They have learned a great deal under the harsh war 
circumstances. They will learn more after our country has been liberated 
and the Islamic rule is re-established. The world will be astonished by 
the Afghan youths' achievements in all modern fields.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Is communication through the internet currently 
important to the Islamic Emirate in Afghanistan?

[Ahmadi] The media is a basic and important part of the on-going war 
between us and the occupation enemy. [Winning] the media war means, 
perhaps, winning more than half the war. We communicate with our people in 
Afghanistan and beyond, explain our cause, and make our voice heard among 
all Muslims and in the world in general. Needless to say, we lack 
technical and material resources, but we do not lack determination and 
faith, something that our enemy does not have. More important than 
resources are truthful reporting. This makes our media outdo the enemy's 
media, notwithstanding the enormous resources at the latter's disposal. It 
is the Islamic values that make us triumph and outdo the enemy in the 
media field as well as in the battlefield.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Many people visit your website; do you correspond with 
them?

[Ahmadi] Visiting websites is not more difficult than joining jihad and 
the battlefield. More important than visiting websites is winning over the 
minds and hearts of the masses who visit websites. This can only be won by 
truthful reporting, and faith in the justice of our people's cause and in 
their jihad against aggressors in defense of our religion and homeland.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Do you read Arabic newspapers or follow up, for 
instance, what is written in US and Western papers, or do you regard the 
latter as satanic?

[Ahmadi] We follow up everything we can have access to, such as media 
reports and scientific material, which is part of our mission. We 
particularly follow up any reports relating to our cause, even if 
indirectly. Naturally, this is the mission of our media organ, which 
follows up and analyzes what it monitors and submits reports to the higher 
echelons. We can easily recognize satanic acts whether in newspapers or in 
other domains.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Why did the Taliban of Afghanistan agree to hold talks 
with the United States although it is waging a fierce combat against the 
world's most powerful army? Why were the Doha talks suspended? Have you 
closed down the Taliban office in Qatar?

[Ahmadi] The objective of continuing jihad against the occupiers and of 
holding talks with them is the same, namely to expel the aggressive armies 
and re-establish Islamic rule in the country. Continuing or suspending the 
negotiations is contingent on achieving that objective. We stopped the 
talks because we found out that the enemy sought to prolong the 
negotiation for no useful purpose, and to exploit the talks to serve his 
interest.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] How do the Afghan youths communicate with the Taliban? 
And how do new members join the Taliban?

[Ahmadi] The Islamic Emirate is an authentic part of the Afghan people. 
The sons of our people join the ranks of Taliban everywhere in the 
country. So there is no problem of communication or of joining all forms 
of jihad. The jihadist activity accommodates youths, the elderly, and 
children. A jihadis t home can only stand on jihadist women who make 
sacrifices and take care of their homes.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] What is a Taliban jihadist’s monthly salary? Do you pay 
them in dollars? Where do you get your financial aid from?

[Ahmadi] First, we do not have people who are paid in dollars; that blight 
exists somewhere else. You can ask about this in Kabul or many other 
capitals. It is well known that the Afghan banknotes, which were printed 
by the occupation, are pegged to the currency of the occupiers, namely the 
US dollar. This is the case in all countries that are controlled by the 
United States. The Afghan people provide financial aid to Taliban. Were it 
otherwise, jihad would not have begun in the first place, or would have 
stopped long ago. The global US influence is well known, and no one dares 
challenge it except few, rare people. The Islamic Emirate pays salaries to 
only a limited number of people who devote their time to particular 
missions. The majority of the mujahidin are provided for by their families 
or tribes.

Taliban offers part of the financial aid and logistical support to various 
fronts while the Afghan people and tribes offer the other part, as the 
mujahidin are the sons of those tribes. Even during the Taliban rule, 
tribes would send their sons to join our forces and undertake to pay their 
personal cost and that of their families. Tribes play a very major social 
role in Afghanistan, a role of great effectiveness in time of jihad that 
the country is going through.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] What is your response to those who defect from Taliban, 
according to Afghan government statements as part of the reconciliation 
program?

[Ahmadi] Taliban have already explained this issue as part of the 
psychological warfare against the mujahidin aimed at frustrating the 
people to depart from jihad. The elements that surrendered are government 
supporters and war lords' followers who receive enormous funds from the 
occupation in return for propagating those empty claims. In the final days 
of the Soviet occupation, we witnessed a similar government campaign using 
the pretext of reconciliation, a campaign that cost a great deal of funds. 
In addition, weapons were distributed as bribe to those who jumped on the 
wagon of that reconciliation campaign to reap material benefit. However, 
the mujahidin forced the Soviet occupiers to flee the country and brought 
down the Kabul government. The mujahidin now have the same program, which 
absolutely has nothing to do with reconciliation with the occupation or 
with the Kabul regime.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] The question that is often asked is what will happen to 
girls' schools if Taliban returns to power?

[Ahmadi] This question is part of the psychological campaign. It is an 
early attempt against Taliban's upcoming rule, and is aimed at diverting 
attention from the key problem, namely the problem of occupation and its 
continuing crimes against the Afghan people -- men, women, and children. 
The occupiers are not friends of education or women. They are enemies of 
all Afghan people and of all Muslims. Under the rule of the Islamic 
Emirate, no one no matter how powerful, would take more than the Islamic 
sharia determines; and no one, no matter how weak, would be denied one's 
rights that are enshrined in the sharia. The question has absolutely 
nothing to do with whims, temperaments, or the wishes of the corrupt or 
the oppressive states no matter how powerful they are. What counts with 
regard to education is compliance with the sharia tenets, whether with 
regard to the education of boys or girls. The sharia urges education for 
boys and girls from early age to the end of life. Education of boys and 
girls, for instance, is being used by the occupation to combat Islam in 
the hearts of the coming generations, just as the Soviets had sought to do 
in Afghanistan. We are opposed to the misuse of the education process 
aimed at changing the faith, identity, and culture of the nation. We are 
not opposed to education in itself whether for boys or girls.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Can we say that you are determined to win the media war 
until the end?

[Ahmadi] As long as we are in a state of war, we will use all modern means 
available, and acquire all possible expertise. After we liberate the 
country, the acquisition of modern science and technology will be our 
basic challenge to develop and strengthen our country and improve the 
standard of living of our people who suffered a great deal from the 
aggression of the occupiers and the greedy.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Do you have a sharia mufti? Or do you turn to the 
so-called Afghanistan Religious Scholars Council?

[Ahmadi] We have numerous religious scholars in most parts of the country. 
They offer advice and explain sharia tenets on all aspects of life that 
face the mujahidin and citizens alike. They also conduct trials to settle 
disputes in liberated areas, which currently cover most parts of the 
country. The Islamic Emirate offers advice and sharia verdicts on 
important issues referred by field commanders and religious scholars in 
all areas. The Islamic Emirate appoints to the Fatwa Council those who 
have the required qualifications in religious education, who are pious, 
and well-versed in jihad culture. Those who make use of their religious 
education to serve a government appointed by the occupation and protected 
by its forces do not have such qualifications.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Can we regard your posting Koranic verses on Facebook, 
Twitter, and websites as jihad, or is that intended to proliferate Islam?

[Ahmadi] The use of appropriate means of communication is left to the 
discretion of the preacher and his assessment of the situation. It is wise 
to say that every situation requires particular manner of handling. 
Spreading Islam is the duty of every Muslim, if he can.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Are civilians who are killed in battles because of you 
or by NATO forces regarded as martyrs?

[Ahmadi] This question is inspired by the UN bodies' statements, which 
hold the mujahidin responsible for the killing of many civilians. This is 
not a surprising calumny coming as it does from this international body. 
What every Afghan national knows is that the US and NATO forces practice 
systematic annihilation of our Muslim people. They use every means 
everywhere to kill people, in villages, on roads, in safe homes, in 
transportation means, in funerals and in weddings, they do this day and 
night. They also use aircraft and airborne forces for that purpose. War 
generals in the Pentagon and in Kabul plan for such massacres, which are 
carried out by mercenaries and soldiers who are sane or half insane. 
Fortunately, American soldiers themselves took photos of many of these 
massacres. What has been leaked about these massacres, notwithstanding 
their heinous and horrific nature, only shows a small part of our people's 
bloody tragedy. And you ask me if these victims are martyrs? I leave the 
answer to your question to your sharia knowledge and your conscience as a 
journalist.

[Asharq Al-Awsat] As the Taliban’s official spokesmen, what has been the 
hardest situation you’ve faced in that capacity, and what has been the 
most difficult question you have been asked?

[Ahmadi] No doubt, the most difficult situation any mujahidin media 
official faces is receiving news of the martyrdom of commanders or of 
media soldiers in the battlefield. As for the most difficult question I 
have ever heard, it is your question about the most difficult question.

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