He he he Hanya bisa kaing-kaing kayak anjing kejepit buntut tanpa ada substansinya. Lu kagak mampu kasih argumen bantahan bukan?
He he he --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: > > Hehehe... emang tuh anjing biasanya lbh galak dr majikannya, jadi ga heran > kalo si Teddy sbg anjing buduk piaraan orang Islam akan selalu lbh galak dr > orang Islam sendiri yg ga berani komentar soal suara azan tsb. > Â > Kalo udah ada anjing buduk piaraan yg galak kayak si Teddy, buat apa > majikannya hrs turun tangan. > Â > Teddy itu betul2 anjing buduk piaraan yg ideal, hehehe.... > Â > Â > > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@...> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 2:48 AM > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Jakarta tells Muslim religious leaders to lower > >volume of minaret loudspeakers > > > > > >Â > >Lu ini bener-bener idiot. > > > >Sebelum lu pindah ke suatu tempat, lu amati-amati dulu keadaan sekitar > >tempat itu pada pagi hari, siang dan malam hari selama beberapa waktu. > >Kalau sudah tahu bakalan ada gangguan suara rutin di tempat tersebut, > >ngapain juga lu pindah? > > > >Lu sebagai orang baru di suatu tempat dan mau mengatur kebiasaan orang di > >situ? Itu mah mirip dengan keadaan sekelompok orang Turki yang menuntut > >macam-macam pada pemerintah Jerman. Kalau dalam kasus ini pasti lu bawa-bawa > >agama orang-orangnya sebagai penyebab karena tujuan lu memang cuma mau > >menghina agama orang lain. > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> > >> Hehehe... Teddy ini bilang bhw dia ga peduli dgn nasib orang lain krn dia > >> ga ngalami nasib yg sama. Dgn kata lain, Teddy ini ga peduli dgn orang > >> lain sama sekali. > >> ÃÂ > >> Sebaliknya, sbg anjing buduk piaraan yg setia, Teddy ngebela majikannya > >> orang Islam dgn galaknya. > >> ÃÂ > >> ÃÂ > >> > >> From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> > >> >To: [email protected] > >> >Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 1:40 PM > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Jakarta tells Muslim religious leaders to lower > >> >volume of minaret loudspeakers > >> > > >> > > >> >ÃÂ > >> >He he he > >> > > >> >Anjing kurapan hina dina yang sangat pengecut ini memang super dogol > >> >alias idiot. Gua mana ada urusan dengan tempat lu tinggal, sebodo amat. > >> > > >> >Yang jelas tempat gua tinggal itu sangat tenang dan tidur gua sangat > >> >nyenyak. Ada peraturan kalau hari biasa hanya diperbolehkan melakukan > >> >aktivitas yang menimbulkan suara brisik mulai pukul 07:00 pagi dan mulai > >> >pukul 09:00 untuk hari-hari Sabtu dan Minggu. Kalau tidak ya bersiaplah > >> >mendapat kunjungan Polisi yang datang karena adua orang. > >> > > >> >Pakai itu otak, bener juga ya otaknya jarang dipakai jadinya masih gres. > >> > > >> >He he he > >> > > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hehehe... gua rasa, anjing2 buduk piaraan orang Islam spt Teddy dan > >> >> suryana akan ngedukung sepenuhnya mesjid2 berazan ria jam 3 pagi dgn > >> >> masang loudspeaker sekeras2nya. Dan ga usah ditanya lagi apa pendapat > >> >> orang2 Islam di milis ini, mereka jg pasti akan ngedukung sepenuhnya, > >> >> bukan? > >> >> ÃÂ > >> >> http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Jakarta-tells-Muslim-religious-leaders-to-lower-volume-of-minaret-loudspeakers-24670.html > >> >> ÃÂ > >> >> 05/05/2012 12:48 > >> >> INDONESIA > >> >> Jakarta tells Muslim religious leaders to lower volume of minaret > >> >> loudspeakers > >> >> by Mathias Hariyadi > >> >> ÃÂ > >> >> In a meeting with more than a thousand representatives of the Mosque > >> >> Council (DMI), Vice President Boediono called for an unwavering fight > >> >> against fundamentalism. Islam, he said, is a "religion of peace". In > >> >> his address, he also called for mosques to lower the volume of their > >> >> loudspeakers, a request rejected by the Ulema Council. > >> >> > >> >> Jakarta (AsiaNews) - Indonesian Vice President Boediono has appealed to > >> >> the Indonesian Mosques' Council (DMI) to the lower the volume of mosque > >> >> loudspeakers when they call the faithful to prayer, a traditional > >> >> ritual that is carried out five times a day by practicing Muslims. The > >> >> vice president wants mosque to lower the volume, especially when the > >> >> call is done at 3 am, which is way before the right time and disturbs > >> >> most of the population. His request however was met by the steadfast > >> >> opposition of the country's Ulema Council (MUI), whose answer was an > >> >> emphatic no to any "lower volume". > >> >> ÃÂ > >> >> The vice president made his appeal to more than a thousand people imams > >> >> and religious leaders attending a DMI conference that was recently held > >> >> in East Jakarta. During the event, DMI members elected Jusuf Kalla as > >> >> their organisation's new president. The latter is the vice president > >> >> during President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono's first term in office. > >> >> ÃÂ > >> >> In his address, Kalla's successor Boediono also urged those present to > >> >> cooperate with the government in the "fight against extremism" and for > >> >> the eradication of fundamentalist ideologies. > >> >> "We don't want to let our mosques into the wrong people who disseminate > >> >> false Islamic beliefs, fundamentalism, sectarian ideas, hostile > >> >> attitudes to others and provocative teachings. All this is irrelevant > >> >> to the true Islam, which is widely known as a peace-loving religion > >> >> that boosts the spirit of tolerance." > >> >> ÃÂ > >> >> In addition to a call to arms against radical ideologies that find > >> >> fertile ground in some mosques and among some imams, the government > >> >> wants mosques to adjust the volume of mosque loudspeakers during the > >> >> call to prayer. > >> >> ÃÂ > >> >> For Boediono, the practice known as 'azan' is better when the volume is > >> >> lower compared to the loud fracas currently heard. With the backing of > >> >> quotes from the Qur'an, the vice president noted that Muslims are > >> >> expected to lower their voice and be humble when they are at prayer. > >> >> ÃÂ > >> >> In responding to the vice president's appeal, the Ulema Council (MUI) > >> >> said it was willing to consider moving the first call to prayer from 3 > >> >> am to 4.30 am, which is the expected time anyway. > >> >> However, the MUI is not prepared to adjust the volume. For the council, > >> >> which is notorious for its radical positions against yoga, smoking and > >> >> "immoral" international music stars like Lady Gaga, any lowering of the > >> >> volume would be counterproductive because Muslims need to be "alerted" > >> >> to their duties. > >> >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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