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So what condition or description they SAID finding GOD ? Are they really know what God is ? Or they make their self assumptions ? --- On Wed, 23/5/12, Bukan Pedanda <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bukan Pedanda <[email protected]> Subject: [proletar] NZ Herald: Neuroscientists find God in mushrooms To: [email protected] Received: Wednesday, 23 May, 2012, 6:01 PM FYI.. --- nzherald.co.nz Neuroscientists find God in mushrooms By Jeremy Laurance Mystical experiences like those advocated by Timothy Leary can now be produced safely in the lab. Mystical experiences like those advocated by Timothy Leary can now be produced safely in the lab. LONDON - A universal mystical experience with life-changing effects can be produced by the hallucinogen contained in magic mushrooms, scientists claimed yesterday. Forty years after Timothy Leary, the apostle of drug-induced mysticism, urged his 1960s hippie followers to "tune in, turn on, and drop out", researchers at Johns Hopkins University in the US have for the first time demonstrated that mystical experiences can be produced safely in the laboratory. They say that there is no difference between drug-induced mystical experiences and the spontaneous religious ones that believers have reported for centuries. They are "descriptively identical". And they argue that the potential of the hallucinogenic drugs, ignored for decades because of their links with illicit drug use in the 1960s, must be explored to develop new treatments for depression, drug addiction and the treatment of intolerable pain. Anticipating criticism from church leaders, they say they are not interested in the "Does God exist?" debate. "This work can't and won't go there." Interest in the therapeutic use of psychedelic drugs is growing around the world. In the UK, the Royal College of Psychiatrists debated their use at a conference in March for the first time for 30 years. A conference held in Basel, Switzerland, last January, reviewed the growing psychedelic psychiatry movement. The drug psilocybin is the active ingredient of magic mushrooms, which grow wild in Wales and were openly sold in London markets until a change in the law last year. For the Johns Hopkins study, 30 middle-aged volunteers who had religious or spiritual interests attended two eight-hour drug sessions, two months apart, receiving psilocybin in one session and a non-hallucinogenic stimulant - Ritalin - in the other. They were not told which drug was which. One-third described the experience with psilocybin as the most spiritually significant of their lifetime and two-thirds rated it among their five most meaningful experiences. In more than 60 per cent of cases the experience qualified as a "full mystical experience" based on established psychological scales, the researchers say. Some likened it to the importance of the birth of their first child or the death of a parent. The effects lasted for at least two months. Eight out of 10 of the volunteers reported moderately or greatly increased wellbeing or life satisfaction. Relatives, friends and colleagues confirmed the changes. The study is one of the first in the new discipline of "neurotheology" -the neurology of religious experience. The researchers, who report their findings in the online journal Psychopharmacology, say that, though unorthodox, their aim is to explore the possible benefits of drugs like psilocybin. Professor Roland Griffiths, of the department of neuroscience and psychiatry at Johns Hopkins, said: "As a reaction to the excesses of the 1960s, human research with hallucinogens has been basically frozen in time. I had a healthy scepticism going into this. [But] under defined conditions, with careful preparation, you can safely and fairly reliably occasion what's called a primary mystical experience that may lead to positive changes in a person. "It is an early step in what we hope will be a large body of scientific work that will ultimately help people." A third of the volunteers became frightened during the drug sessions with some reporting feelings of paranoia. The researchers say psilocybin is not toxic or addictive, unlike alcohol and cocaine, but that volunteers must be accompanied throughout the experience by people who can help them through it. The study is hailed as a landmark by former director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, Charles Schuster, in a commentary published alongside the research. In a second commentary, Huston Smith, America's leading authority on comparative religion, writes that mystical experience "is as old as humankind" and attempts to induce it using psychoactive plants were made in some ancient cultures, such as classical Greece, and in some contemporary small-scale cultures. "But this is the first scientific demonstration in 40 years, and the most rigorous ever, that profound mystical states can be produced safely in the laboratory. The potential is great." - INDEPENDENT By Jeremy Laurance --- On Thu, 24/5/12, ttbnice <[email protected]> wrote: From: ttbnice <[email protected]> Subject: [proletar] Re: [Indonesia-Rising] Neurosience. Ha ha ha To: [email protected], "proletar" <[email protected]> Received: Thursday, 24 May, 2012, 5:14 AM Setau saya ga ada ilmuwan yg bikin penelitian untuk menjawab apakah Tuhan itu ada atau ngga. Dan jelas ga ada perusahaan yg mau sponsorin penelitian model begitu. Tapi jika akibat penelitiannya, ilmuwan banyak yg jadi filsuf ngomongin Tuhan ada apa kaga, ya biasa itu mah. Otak adalah bagian terakhir dari tubuh manusia yg mulai dipelajari manusia. Dulu kalo ada penyakit di sekitar otak, tengkoraknya dilobangin terus otaknya di ojok2. Siapa tau jadi bener. Sekarang ini, mulai dari orang kesurupan sampe orang sadis bisa dijelaskan melalui neuroscience. Tapi ga ada tuh ngomongin Tuhan. Kalo ga ada penelitian yg disponsorin idup lu ga bakal senikmat sekarang. Lu mau perut lu di belek tanpa dibius gara2 usus buntu? Lu mau mati gara2 cacar aer? From: Abbas Amin Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:10 AM To: proletar ; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; wanita - muslimah ; kisunda Subject: [Indonesia-Rising] Neurosience. Ha ha ha Jusfiq dengan bangganya menunjukkan tulisan mengenai bidang ini; yang akan meneliti ada atau tak adanya Tuhan. Kita perkirakan, bahwa kesimpulan untuk ada atau tak ada Tuhan sampai 100 atau 200 tahun pun tak akan ada ! Mengapa demikian ? Hehehehe kalau semasa Edison, atau Einstein, yang menelitui sendiri dengan uang pribadi mereka sendiri; diperkirakan relative cepat selesailah suatu penelitian. Tapi ini kan memerlukan biaya Research yang ditanggung suatu Negara atau United Nation !? Maka para pekerjanya terutama para pakarnya yang PHD2; akan kehilangan mata pencahariannya; apabila cepat selesai ! Maka akan ada perjalanan sangat panjaaaang; tapi dari pada dituduh berleha leha terus, makan gaji buta; mereka setiap saat entah sebulan atau dua bulan sekali mengeluarkan tulisan2 tentang penelitian mereka. Skenarionya GAMPANG ! Toh penyandang dananya oon; tahu apa mereka ? Mereka hanya tahu duit; tapi tak ngarti apa yang ditulis para “pakar”/Ilmuwan pengaangguran ini. Dimana tulisannya menunjukkan seperti dekat, tapi masih tetap jauh. Bla bla blanya tentu pinter2. Namanya juga para PAKAR ! Jadi tak ada alasan penyandang dana untuk menyetop dananya. Padahal sudah berbulan bahkan bertahun, tak ada hasil yang greget; selamanya ngambang terus. Kini mau disetop pun sudah kadung; biaya besar sudah keluar; kalau ditarik atau yayasaan/lembaga research ini dibubarkab, disamping sangat boros dan sia2 maka mereka yang menyetujuipun akan ikut terpukul karenanya. Tercoreng namanya. Jadi para Ilmuwan pengangguran ini bisa ongkang2 dengan gaji buta yang sedemikian besarnya; bisa menikmati liburaan tiap tahun dengan santai ! Tak takut kehabisan Fulus ! Mereka benar2 menghabiskan energy DUNIA ! Yang paling KASIHAN adalah pengikut2 Atheis yang DUNGU2 itu ! Mau aja dicekokin oleh yang disebut para ILMUWAN ini ! Sampai dengan tahun 2012 ini masih saja atheis2 DUNGU itu percaya bahwa para “Ilmuwan” itu akan menemukan sesuatu. Kini para pakar yang takut dituntut mengalihkan skenarionya, menjadi anti Islam ! Maka para pengikut Atheis yang DUNGU2 ini seperti Anjing lapar disodorin TAHI ANGET; langsung disambutnya ajakan anti Islam ini ! Maka dengan berapi api mereka menyuarakan suara anti Islam di mana2. Hahahaha ! alangkah DUNGUNYA pengikut Atheis ini. Mereka tidak mengerti sedang dikibulin secara sistimatis oleh Ilmuwan2 tak ada kerjaan itu ! Mereka atheis2 DUNGU itu seperti anjing kelaparan dimana mana berteriak anti Islam ! Merekapun tak malu2 memfitnah. Kasihan sebenarnya mereka; mereka adalah KORBAN ! Korban Brainwash dari aktor2 yang disebut “Ilmuwan:” padahal antara mereka terjadi kolusi besar mendunia; supaya mereka banyak duit; diri sangat terhormat. Padahal menghabiskan energy dunia untuk sekedar HOBBY mereka research yang tak kunjung selesai ! Suara anti Islam; adalah karena mereka meyakini yang harus diwaspadai hanya Islam; agama lain kayanya seperti atheis2 DUNGU itulah ! 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