ngga pernah tuh, if ever, si jusplik mengecam dan me maki2 si bleki yg menganggap lumrah pembantaian muslim bosnia oleh tentara serbia. cuman ada 2 kemungkinan si jusplik bersikap begitu:
1. dia juga setuju dengan si bleki bahwa ethnic cleansing yg dilakukan tentara serbia itu lumrah 2. dia segan sama si bleki, takut ngga dikasih bo'ol lagi. --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: > > > > Nggak sering tuh, if ever, kita denger mansuai berotak cebol johny-indon, > anak serdadu yang diajar membunuh manusia itu menyatakan tentangannnya > terhadap berbagai pembantaian yang dilakukan serdadu Indonesia baik > diberbagai daerah di Indonesia maupun di Timor Leste . > > > --- In [email protected], "johny_indon" <johny_indon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > gua menentang pembantaian dan pemerkosaan yg dilakukan oleh siapapun. > > sekarang coba lu bawa bukti yg elu percayai sebagai kebenaran bahwa nabi > > melakukan pembantaian dan peerkosaan. > > gua udah pernah nanya ini tapi elu ngacir ngga sanggup jawab. > > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > Apa lu pernah kaing2 ttg pembantaian dan pemerkosaan yg dilakukan > > > pejihad2 Islam termasuk oleh nabi lu? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > > >To: [email protected] > > > >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 8:31 AM > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >terbukti sudah dgn gamblang. > > > >ternyata yg dimaksud si jusplik dgn orang "mulia" dan "anti kekerasan" > > > >itu adalah > > > >bajingan yg menganggap lumrah pemerkosaan dan pembantaian tentara serbia > > > >terhadap muslim bosnia. > > > >si bajingan itu juga menikmati lolongan cewek yg lagi disiksa. > > > >luar biasa! > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Ga perlu gua ngomong semua pendapat gua, goblok. Terserah aja lu mau > > > >> mlintir2 kayak apa, toh emang cuma itu kemampuan lu. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >________________________________ > > > >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > > >> >To: [email protected] > > > >> >Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:03 PM > > > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >à> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >dan elu, yg kata si jusplik menolak kekerasan, tidak pernah keberatan > > > >> >dgn pembantaian dan pemerkosaan muslim bosnia oleh kresten serbia yg > > > >> >terjadi > > > >> >di abad 20 ini. > > > >> >dasar elu kresten biadab. > > > >> > > > > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Orang Serbia udah ditindas selama berabad2 oleh orang Islam di > > > >> >> jaman Ottoman, goblok. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >________________________________ > > > >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > > >> >> >To: [email protected] > > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:49 PM > > > >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> >Ãâà> > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> >pembelaan yg sangat tolol. > > > >> >> >orang kresten yg cerdas pasti malu baca argumen sampah elu itu. > > > >> >> >karena elu bahkan ngga berani mengutuk apa yg dilakukan kresten > > > >> >> >serbia, malah bikin pembelaan ngawur "Orang Serbia itu udah sekian > > > >> >> >lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, jadi ga aneh kalo mereka ngebalas > > > >> >> >apa yg sdh dilakukan orang Islam thd mereka". > > > >> >> >padahal di link yg gua kasih udah lengkap kronologis pembantaian > > > >> >> >muslim bosnia oleh kresten serbia itu, tapi lu menolak fakta di > > > >> >> >depan mata dengan argumen ngawur asal2an ala musmus. > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> >malu ya ternyata orang2 yg seiman dengan elu ternyata buas2? > > > >> >> >dan ini terjadi di abad 20 di mana sebagian besar umat manusia > > > >> >> >sudah semakin beradab. > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> >kalau elu berdalih "yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang > > > >> >> >Islam, tp orang "Kristen" ", lha yg nangkepin dan nembak mati > > > >> >> >teroris > > > >> >> >di indonesia juga orang islam. polisi, intel, kapolri, semua orang > > > >> >> >islam, bukan orang kresten, goblog. > > > >> >> >mau ngomong apa lagi lu sekarang? > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> >mana si jusplik mahaguru elu yg ngaku2 humanis itu? mingkem sejuta > > > >> >> >basa dia. > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> Hehehe... orang Islam terus aja ga mau ngaku pembantaian yg > > > >> >> >> dilakukan demi auloh. > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> Orang Serbia melakukan pembantaian itu ga ada hubungan dgn > > > >> >> >> ajaran Kristen, dan yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang > > > >> >> >> Islam, tp orang "Kristen". > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> Sebaliknya, banyak pembantaian yg dilakukan dlm rangka berjihad > > > >> >> >> di jalan auloh. Apa orang Islam mau ngibul bhw pejihad2 yg > > > >> >> >> ngebantai non Islam itu bukan melakukannya demi auloh dan ga > > > >> >> >> sesuai dgn ajaran Islam? > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> Orang Serbia itu udah sekian lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, > > > >> >> >> jadi ga aneh kalo mereka ngebalas apa yg sdh dilakukan orang > > > >> >> >> Islam thd mereka. > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >________________________________ > > > >> >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > > >> >> >> >To: [email protected] > > > >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:41 AM > > > >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >pembantaian yg lu maksud yg ini bukan? > > > >> >> >> >(pengen tau juga komentar mahaguru elu si jusplik). > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >**** In addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass rapes > > > >> >> >> >of Muslim females. ***** > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/bosnia.htm > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >Yugoslavia was composed of ethnic and religious groups that had > > > >> >> >> >been historical rivals, even bitter enemies, including the > > > >> >> >> >Serbs (Orthodox Christians), Croats (Catholics) and ethnic > > > >> >> >> >Albanians (Muslims). > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >*** > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >Sarajevo soon became known as the city where Serb snipers > > > >> >> >> >continually shot down helpless civilians in the streets, > > > >> >> >> >including eventually over 3,500 children. > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >*** > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >Bosnian Muslims were hopelessly outgunned. As the Serbs gained > > > >> >> >> >ground, they began to systematically roundup local Muslims in > > > >> >> >> >scenes eerily similar to those that had occurred under the > > > >> >> >> >Nazis during World War II, including mass shootings, forced > > > >> >> >> >repopulation of entire towns, and confinement in make-shift > > > >> >> >> >concentration camps for men and boys. The Serbs also terrorized > > > >> >> >> >Muslim families into fleeing their villages by using rape as a > > > >> >> >> >weapon against women and girls. > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >The actions of the Serbs were labeled as 'ethnic cleansing,' a > > > >> >> >> >name which quickly took hold among the international media. > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >*** > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >Throughout 1993, confident that the U.N., United States and the > > > >> >> >> >European Community would not take militarily action, Serbs in > > > >> >> >> >Bosnia freely committed genocide against Muslims. > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >*** > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >At this point, some of the worst genocidal activities of the > > > >> >> >> >four-year-old conflict occurred. In Srebrenica, a Safe Haven, > > > >> >> >> >U.N. peacekeepers stood by helplessly as the Serbs under the > > > >> >> >> >command of General Ratko Mladic systematically selected and > > > >> >> >> >then slaughtered nearly 8,000 men and boys between the ages of > > > >> >> >> >twelve and sixty - the worst mass murder in Europe since World > > > >> >> >> >War II. In addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass > > > >> >> >> >rapes of Muslim females. > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> Lalu gimana dgn nabi Islam dan pejihad2 lainnya yg ngebantai > > > >> >> >> >> orang demi auloh? Justru ngebantainya demi auloh tuh. > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >________________________________ > > > >> >> >> >> > From: arra_s <arra_s@> > > > >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] > > > >> >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:55 AM > > > >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >ada apa dengan paham atheis??? > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >mengapa si atheist Polpot bisa menjadi pembantai berdarah > > > >> >> >> >> >dingin, yang duh kejam nya... duh nistanya..... > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >apakah karena anggap Tuhan tidak ada? sehingga semua > > > >> >> >> >> >perbuatan tidak akan ada pertanggung jawaban nya??? > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >duh ruginya..... > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], "johny_indon" > > > >> >> >> >> ><johny_indon@> wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> para atheist mungkin merasa 'terangkat' martabatnya > > > >> >> >> >> >> kalau ngasih contoh einstein (yg sebenernya belom jelas > > > >> >> >> >> >> juga dia atheist beneran atau bukan karena > > > >> >> >> >> >> ngga ada di daftar ini > > > >> >> >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheist_activists_and_educators) > > > >> >> >> >> >> atau orang2 'pinter' > > > >> >> >> >> >> lainnya yg kebeneran atheist. > > > >> >> >> >> >> tapi oke lah, biar pada seneng, anggap aja einstein > > > >> >> >> >> >> atheist. > > > >> >> >> >> >> cuman, mereka emang maunya milih2. > > > >> >> >> >> >> mereka ngga mau ngasih contoh atheist pembantai berdarah > > > >> >> >> >> >> dingin > > > >> >> >> >> >> yg membunuh 2 juta orang kamboja yg bernama saloth sar > > > >> >> >> >> >> alias pol pot, misalnya. > > > >> >> >> >> >> bayangin aja, si atheist ini menganggap orang yg bisa > > > >> >> >> >> >> bahasa > > > >> >> >> >> >> asing, pake kacamata atau sekedar pake jam tangan kudu > > > >> >> >> >> >> dibunuh. > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> hebat kan atheist itu? > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> http://www.cambodia.org/khmer_rouge/ > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> As the new ruler of Cambodia, Pol Pot set about > > > >> >> >> >> >> transforming the country into his vision of an agrarian > > > >> >> >> >> >> utopia. The cities were evacuated, factories and schools > > > >> >> >> >> >> were closed, and currency and private property was > > > >> >> >> >> >> abolished. Anyone believed to be an intellectual, such as > > > >> >> >> >> >> someone who spoke a foreign language, was immediately > > > >> >> >> >> >> killed. Skilled workers were also killed, in addition to > > > >> >> >> >> >> anyone caught in possession of eyeglasses, a wristwatch, > > > >> >> >> >> >> or any other modern technology. In forced marches > > > >> >> >> >> >> punctuated with atrocities from the Khmer Rouge, the > > > >> >> >> >> >> millions who failed to escape Cambodia were herded onto > > > >> >> >> >> >> rural collective farms. > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > dari tulisan2 pinpin sebelumnya, ada sedikit pencerahan > > > >> >> >> >> >> > tentang atheisme, jadi rada paham bahwa atheisme juga > > > >> >> >> >> >> > masih buta dalam pencarian nya... > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > baru tahu juga kalau para atheisme menjadikan einstein > > > >> >> >> >> >> > sebagai nara sumber... einstein sebagai nara sumber > > > >> >> >> >> >> > bidang science memang iya, tapi kalau nara sumber > > > >> >> >> >> >> > spiritual, masak iya sih.... > > > >> >> >> >> >> > beda bidang keahlian.... > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > menurut saya nara sumber spiritual yg paling tepat > > > >> >> >> >> >> > adalah pengalaman diri sendiri plus mikir.. > > > >> >> >> >> >> > supaya mikir nya terarah perlu ilmu, informasi etc... > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > --- In [email protected], Habe Proletar > > > >> >> >> >> >> > <proletar4@> wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > Kalau bener ini si pinpin yang dulu pertama kali > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > mengumandangkan > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàgerakan" > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > islam protestant " > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > dan sekarang dia kembali aktif di sini > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > maka milis proletar pantas bangga, dari milis ini > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > telah lahir seorang mahdi, seorang perombak > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > paham paham statis keagamaan, seorang filsuf > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > pemikiran pinpin bukan cuma mampu merombak doktrin > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > ortodoksi keagamaan > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > tapi juga menjungkirbalikan paham apkiran > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàamburadul > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > seperti atheisme, areligious, > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > jusfikunisme,itemfaggotisme > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > dan proudtobemiskinis lalapan kambing ade kimhooknisme > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > hail to the new mahdi... > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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