Ya iyalah ...
Elo berpendapat anjing lebih mulia daripada nabi...
Ya ... setiap "ras" akan memuliakan ras nya sendiri.
Anjing ya akan memuliakan sesamaanjing dong ... :-)

Kasihan.

--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote:
>
> Ga ada pendeta yg ngoceh spt ocehan lu. Lu mungkin ga pernah ngedenger 
> omongan pendeta, tp bisa2nya lu ngibul ga tau malu spt itu.
> 
> Yg tolol itu adalah lu, udah jelas dikisahkan nabi lu ngembat anak ingusan, 
> ngerampok, ngebunuh dsb. Tp lu tetap anggap dia sbg orang yg paling baik, 
> padahal  anjing gua aja msh lbh mulia dr nabi lu.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >________________________________
> > From: rezameutia <rezameutia@...>
> >To: [email protected] 
> >Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 2:39 PM
> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi (secara kontekstual taik kucing..)
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> >kalo orang islam nggak ngerti islam tentunya belajar ama ulama, tapi tetep 
> >akalnya musti dipake.  bukannya seperti elu, belajar agama kristen ama 
> >pendeta tapi akal lu nggak dipake sama sekali...
> >
> >pendeta ngajarin bahwa tuhan adalah laki2 berkulit putih, berambut pirang, 
> >dan bermata biru , elu langsung aja percaya tanpa dipikir lagi.  pake dong 
> >akal lu tuh, jangan kayak kelakuan anjing yang kagak punya akal sehingga si 
> >anjing tega ngembat ibunya sendiri, ngembat anaknya sendiri.
> >
> >apa sih susahnya lu pake akal dikit..
> >
> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Kalo lu ini tolol dan ga tau apa2 ttg Islam, lu hrs belajar dr yg lbh tahu 
> >> ttg Islam, goblok!
> >> 
> >> Masak prinsip spt ini aja lu kagak ngarti, betul2 dungu.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >________________________________
> >> > From: rezameutia <rezameutia@>
> >> >To: [email protected] 
> >> >Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 8:49 AM
> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi (secara kontekstual taik 
> >> >kucing..)
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> >  
> >> >apa urusannya khomeni lebih pinter dari gw mengenai islam. trus, apa gw 
> >> >harus ngikutin dan nganggap khomeini itu wakil tuhan seperti elu nganggap 
> >> >pendeta wakil tuhan?
> >> >
> >> >elu sih kristen dongok otaknya nggak pernah dipake, selalu ngikutin 
> >> >segala omongan pendeta tanpa dipikir lagi.
> >> >
> >> >sekali-kali mikir napah, tem?!
> >> >
> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Khomeini itu tau Islam melebihi lu, tolol.
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> >________________________________
> >> >> > From: rezameutia <rezameutia@>
> >> >> >To: [email protected] 
> >> >> >Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 7:40 AM
> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi (secara kontekstual taik 
> >> >> >kucing..)
> >> >> > 
> >> >> >
> >> >> >  
> >> >> >emangnya khomeini itu wakil auloh, seperti pendeta ngaku wakil tuhan 
> >> >> >di kristen?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >nggak heran sih, ketika pastor ngembat pantat elu, elu anggap hal itu 
> >> >> >merupakan perintah tuhan allah.  pake dong otak lu, tem..
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Kalo si Khomeini bilang boleh nyabulin bayi, tentunya itu krn emang 
> >> >> >> auloh ngehalalin. Emangnya si Khomeini itu ga tau isi Quran kayak si 
> >> >> >> pinpin?
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >________________________________
> >> >> >> > From: Richan S <richansitumorang@>
> >> >> >> >To: [email protected]; [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:41 PM
> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi (secara kontekstual 
> >> >> >> >taik kucing..)
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'‚  
> >> >> >> >Betulankah ini?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >A muslim man allowing sex with a baby according to Allah
> >> >> >> >www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Xz_BrfOhM
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >On 7/06/2012 4:36 PM, item abu wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Hehehe .. pinpin ga berani unt ngebantah fakta bhw Quran 
> >> >> >> >> ngehalalin 
> >> >> >> >> ngembat anak ingusan yg belum mens.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >________________________________
> >> >> >> >> > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@ 
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:pinpinyuliansyah%40yahoo.com>>
> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] <mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 11:36 AM
> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi (secara kontekstual 
> >> >> >> >> >taik 
> >> >> >> >> kucing..)
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Jelas ada urusan dong ....
> >> >> >> >> >anda menuduh muhammad seorang pedophile ...
> >> >> >> >> >artinya elo harus bisa mendefinisikan dulu pedophile itu apaan ?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Gimana sih tem....
> >> >> >> >> >lo bilang "muhammad pedophile"
> >> >> >> >> >tapi ...
> >> >> >> >> >lo bilanga "Nddak ada urusan dengan definisi pedphile" ?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Goblok kok dipelihara sih tem ...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Sedih sayah.
> >> >> >> >> >Pinpin.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> ><mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>, 
> >> >> >> >> item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Hehehe.... tukang putar lidah.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Ga ada urusan dgn definisi pedophile, faktanya adalah Quran 
> >> >> >> >> ngehalalin ngembat anak yg blm mens, dan nabi lu ngembat anak 9 
> >> >> >> >> thn.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >> > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@>
> >> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> >> ><mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 12:07 AM
> >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi (secara 
> >> >> >> >> >> >kontekstual 
> >> >> >> >> taik kucing..)
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Æ'‚
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >So what ?
> >> >> >> >> >> >Kita mau bicara darimana dulu say ?
> >> >> >> >> >> >Ditanya pedophile definisinya apa, sampai sekarang nddak 
> >> >> >> >> >> >jawap.
> >> >> >> >> >> >Sudah ksana kmari ngomong yang lain lagi.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Jee...
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Salam,
> >> >> >> >> >> >Pinpin.
> >> >> >> >> >> >Islam Protestan.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>, item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Cuma omong kosong doang. Ada hal2 yg jelas di Quran dan 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> hadis, 
> >> >> >> >> misalnya Quran ngehalalin ngembat anak ingusan, perbudakan, 
> >> >> >> >> nyiksa 
> >> >> >> >> cewek dll.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ><mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 2:54 PM
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi (secara 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >kontekstual 
> >> >> >> >> taik kucing..)
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Masalah sebuah kitab (injil,weda,alquran) tidak jelas bagi 
> >> >> >> >> orang yang membacanya, itu masalah "siapa" yang membaca. Membaca 
> >> >> >> >> kitab 
> >> >> >> >> suci tak hanya perlu kecerdasan rasional-intelektual namun juga 
> >> >> >> >> kecerdasan otak kanan (intuisi).
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Alkitab apapun (injil,weda,alquran) selalu menimbulkan 
> >> >> >> >> multitafsir. Itu sebabnya ada berbagai pendapat/aliran/sekte 
> >> >> >> >> dalam 
> >> >> >> >> agama apapun. Seperti hal nya klausul-klausul dalam ISO (Saya 
> >> >> >> >> punya 
> >> >> >> >> competensi dalam bidang QMS/EMS ISO) maka interpretasi sebuah 
> >> >> >> >> klausul 
> >> >> >> >> dapat berbeda. Kondisional. Kontekstual.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Proses "saling bantai" tidak hanya inter - agama, tidak 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >hanya 
> >> >> >> >> sesama agama. Itu juga biasa kita lihat di antar partai, intern 
> >> >> >> >> partai, dalam keluarga atau interpersonal.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Perbedaan pendapat dan penafsiran seyogyannya dapat 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >disikapi 
> >> >> >> >> dengan arif untuk meraih sebuah kesepakatan.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dalam hal apapun, kita bisa sepakat.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kita bisa SEPAKAT untuk SEPAKAT.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >kita bisa SEPAKAT untuk TIDAK SEPAKAT.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Salam,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Pinpin
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Islam Protestan Indonesia.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>, item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hehehe... kitab bikinan auloh yg katanya dijelaskan dgn 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> detil 
> >> >> >> >> itu ternyata sama sekali ga jelas shg ada banyak penafsiran.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Kalo ada banyak penafsiran, lalu siapa yg benar? Pd 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> akhirnya 
> >> >> >> >> orang Islam saling bantai krn merasa dirinya yg paling benar. 
> >> >> >> >> Atau, 
> >> >> >> >> orang Islam "moderat", "protestan", "abangan" dll itu tutup mata 
> >> >> >> >> ngeliat orang Islam fundamentalis ngebantai orang lain, 
> >> >> >> >> alasannya, 
> >> >> >> >> hehehe... ada banyak penafsiran.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:41 AM
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi (secara 
> >> >> >> >> kontekstual taik kucing..)
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Pertentangan itu terjadi karena adanya beragam 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >penafsiran.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Begitu.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >"hehehe...." ((( ni anak kalau nulis kenapa mosti 
> >> >> >> >> "hehehe..." terus ya ?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>, item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dasar dungu, krn di Quran ada banyak pertentangan, 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> maka 
> >> >> >> >> 4:82 membuktikan bhw Quran itu dibuat oleh tukang tipu.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On Fri, 6/1/12, pinpinyuliansyah 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <pinpinyuliansyah@> 
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi (secara 
> >> >> >> >> kontekstual taik kucing..)
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To: [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 7:53 AM
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Saya mengaku teis,iya.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> namun apakah saya islam atau tidak, hanya tuhan yang 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> tahu.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lha...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> text 4:82 jelas bilang tuhan itu dari allah.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> masalah burung, zulkarnaen, sulaeman, itu ada 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> tertulis 
> >> >> >> >> dalam alquran. tinggal kita memaknai hal yang tersurat dan 
> >> >> >> >> tersirat 
> >> >> >> >> dalam quran itu bagaimana. dan MANFAAT apa kemudian yang bisa 
> >> >> >> >> kita 
> >> >> >> >> berikanpada orang lain atas makna yang kita pahami tersebut.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> kenapa mesti repot sih ?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> anda merasa cerdas ?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> silahkan.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Apakah anda secara FAKTUAL bener-bener cerdas ?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> tentu saja tidak.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> anda cuma pandai menulis kata "Hehehe...."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nddeso !
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>, item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dasar goblok memang si pinpin ini.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Quran itu ngibul soal burung yg bisa ngelemparin 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > gajah 
> >> >> >> >> sampe mati, ngibul soal Zulkarnaen, ngibul soal Sulaeman. Jadi 
> >> >> >> >> nurut 
> >> >> >> >> 4:82 itu, Quran bukan dr auloh.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gini deh nasib orang Islam yg otaknya udah ga ada.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --- On Fri, 6/1/12, pinpinyuliansyah 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <pinpinyuliansyah@> 
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi (secara 
> >> >> >> >> kontekstual taik kucing..)
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > To: [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 6:03 AM
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 82 Maka apakah mereka tidak memperhatikan Al quran? 
> >> >> >> >> Kalau kiranya Al quran itu bukan dari sisi Allah, tentulah mereka 
> >> >> >> >> mendapat pertentangan yang banyak di dalamnya.(QS. 4:82)
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ::Terjemahan:: ::Tafsir:: ::Asbabun Nuzul::
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Tafsir / Indonesia / DEPAG / Surah An Nisaa' 82
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > &#1571;&#1614;&#1601;&#1614;&#1604;&#1614;&#1575; 
> >> >> >> >> &#1610;&#1614;&#1578;&#1614;&#1583;&#1614;&#1576;&#1614;&#1617;&#1585;&#1615;&#1608;&#1606;&#1614;
> >> >> >> >>  
> >> >> >> >> &#1575;&#1604;&#1618;&#1602;&#1615;&#1585;&#1618;&#1570;&#1606;&#1614;
> >> >> >> >>  
> >> >> >> >> &#1608;&#1614;&#1604;&#1614;&#1608;&#1618; 
> >> >> >> >> &#1603;&#1614;&#1575;&#1606;&#1614; &#1605;&#1616;&#1606;&#1618; 
> >> >> >> >> &#1593;&#1616;&#1606;&#1618;&#1583;&#1616; 
> >> >> >> >> &#1594;&#1614;&#1610;&#1618;&#1585;&#1616; 
> >> >> >> >> &#1575;&#1604;&#1604;&#1614;&#1617;&#1607;&#1616; 
> >> >> >> >> &#1604;&#1614;&#1608;&#1614;&#1580;&#1614;&#1583;&#1615;&#1608;&#1575;
> >> >> >> >>  
> >> >> >> >> &#1601;&#1616;&#1610;&#1607;&#1616; 
> >> >> >> >> &#1575;&#1582;&#1618;&#1578;&#1616;&#1604;&#1614;&#1575;&#1601;&#1611;&#1575;
> >> >> >> >>  
> >> >> >> >> &#1603;&#1614;&#1579;&#1616;&#1610;&#1585;&#1611;&#1575; (82)
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Ayat ini mencela orang-orang kafir dan orang-orang 
> >> >> >> >> munafik tersebut ! karena mereka tidak mengerti tentang kerasulan 
> >> >> >> >> Muhammad dan tidak mau memahami Alquran yang menjelaskan tentang 
> >> >> >> >> kerasulan Nabi Muhammad itu, karena kalau mereka mau mengerti dan 
> >> >> >> >> mau 
> >> >> >> >> memperhatikan, niscaya mereka mengetahui bahwa kerasulan Muhammad 
> >> >> >> >> dan 
> >> >> >> >> Alquran itu memang sebenarnya dari Tuhan. Demikian janji Allah 
> >> >> >> >> kepada 
> >> >> >> >> orang mukmin dan ancaman Nya kepada orang kafir dan orang munafik 
> >> >> >> >> sebagaimana yang disampaikan oleh Muhammad adalah suatu hal yang 
> >> >> >> >> pasti 
> >> >> >> >> sebagaimana pasti benarnya ayat-ayat yang disampaikan oleh 
> >> >> >> >> Muhammad, 
> >> >> >> >> tentang isi hati yang dikandung oleh orang munafik dan orang 
> >> >> >> >> kafir 
> >> >> >> >> itu. Demikian pula pasti benarnya ayat-ayat yang dibawa Muhammad 
> >> >> >> >> tentang nasib buruk mereka di akhirat nanti, karena kalau kiranya 
> >> >> >> >> Alquran itu dibuat-buat Muhammad bukan datangnya dari Allah yang 
> >> >> >> >> mengutus niscaya mereka akan menemui dalam Alquran itu ayat-ayat 
> >> >> >> >> yang 
> >> >> >> >> bertentangan satu sama
> >> >> >> >> >> lain.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Menurut Al Maragi hal-hal yang berikut ini adalah 
> >> >> >> >> sebagai bukti bahwa Alquran bukan bikinan Muhammad, tetapi wahyu 
> >> >> >> >> dari 
> >> >> >> >> Allah dan tidak adanya pertentangan-pertentangan tersebut 
> >> >> >> >> disebabkan 
> >> >> >> >> hal-hal sebagai berikut:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 1. Tidak seorang makhlukpun yang dapat 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > menggambarkan 
> >> >> >> >> hakikat dari sesuatu sebagaimana digambarkan oleh Alquran tanpa 
> >> >> >> >> adanya 
> >> >> >> >> pertentangan antara satu dengan yang lain.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 2. Alquran itu menceritakan kejadian masa yang lalu 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > yang 
> >> >> >> >> tidak pernah disaksikan oleh Muhammad dan sebagiannya tidak 
> >> >> >> >> terdapat 
> >> >> >> >> pula dalam sejarah. Alquran itu juga menceritakan hal-hal yang 
> >> >> >> >> akan 
> >> >> >> >> datang dan ternyata sesuai dengan kenyataan, juga diceritakan 
> >> >> >> >> yang 
> >> >> >> >> sudah terjadi dun tersembunyi di dalam hati sanubari sebahagian 
> >> >> >> >> manusia sebagaimana Alquran menceritakan tentang siasat yang 
> >> >> >> >> diatur 
> >> >> >> >> oleh segolongan manusia yang menentang Rasul (lihat ayat 77 yang 
> >> >> >> >> berhubungan dengan ayat 81 pada ayat yang lalu).
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 3. Tidak seorangpun yang dapat membuat tandingan 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Alquran 
> >> >> >> >> dalam menguraikan pokok-pokok akidah, kaidah-kaidah syariat, 
> >> >> >> >> siasat 
> >> >> >> >> suku-suku dan golongan secara tepat tanpa adanya pertentangan 
> >> >> >> >> satu 
> >> >> >> >> sama lain.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --- In [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>, "Bukan Pedanda" 
> >> >> >> >> <bukan.pedanda@> 
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Dia ngoceh mau bicara "secara kontekstual" tanpa 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > dia 
> >> >> >> >> tahu dulu apa yang ada di teks khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu 
> >> >> >> >> sendiri..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Yaitu, antara lain,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > - bahwa sesuai dengan QS 4:82 maka al-Mushaf itu 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > TIDAK 
> >> >> >> >> berasal dari sisi allah yang nota bene cuman figur fiktif hasil 
> >> >> >> >> khayalan orang Arab primitif..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/341160
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > - dan bahwa al-Mushaf itu "diturunkan" dan nabi 
> >> >> >> >> Muhamamd itu "diutus" untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya 
> >> >> >> >> yang 
> >> >> >> >> berbahasa Arab, jadi bukan untuk berbagai suku bangsa yang ada di 
> >> >> >> >> Indonesia yang masing-masing punya bahasanya sendiri-sendiri..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/341294
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Agar jelas: al-Mushaf itu cuma sebuah khurafah 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > yang 
> >> >> >> >> ditulis oleh orang Arab primitif ...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Atau seperti sudah belasan tahun saya tulis, cuma 
> >> >> >> >> semacam tambo orang Bedui yang hidup di abad ke VIII Masehi..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/86964
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Tambo itu adalah creation myth orang Minangkabau 
> >> >> >> >> primitif dan al-Mushaf itu adalah creation myth orang Arab 
> >> >> >> >> primitif..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Selanjutnya baca link Wikipedia ini tentang 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > creation myth.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_myth
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > --- In [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>, item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > si pinpin ini cuma bisa kaign2 kayak anjing 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > kejepit 
> >> >> >> >> buntut.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > --- On Fri, 6/1/12, pinpinyuliansyah 
> >> >> >> >> <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi 
> >> >> >> >> (rezameutia yang psikopat....)
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > To: [email protected] 
> >> >> >> >> <mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 1:28 AM
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > saat pangeran dipenogoro berperang, kira2 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > pedang 
> >> >> >> >> yang beliau pegang digunakan buat apa ?
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Saat panglima besar sudirman berperang, kira2 
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> >> >> >> >> banyak tangannya membunuh orang ?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > mari kita diskusi secara kontekstual. bukan 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > sekedar 
> >> >> >> >> tektual dan bangga ber "hehehe...." hanya dengan modal cut & 
> >> >> >> >> paste.
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Mbak ya jadi ateis itu yang cerdas dikit gitu 
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > Hehehe ... orang Islam ga bisa bantah nabinya 
> >> >> >> >> adalah tukang bantai, tp jg ga bisa bilang bhw nabinya bejad. 
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