Si pinpin kayaknya emang tukang ngibul. Drmana dia tau orang Islam di China itu 
10% dr populasi? Orang uigur yg muslim itu cuma, hehehe.... dibawah 1% dr total 
penduduk China.




>________________________________
> From: pinpinyuliansyah <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:05 PM
>Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi ( Pinpin itu nggak jauh-jauh dari 
>fundemtalis kok... )
> 
>
>  
>Yang paling mantep perkembangan islam itu malah di china ! komunitas muslim 
>china emang cuma sekitar 10%, tapi... dari sekian milyar ! hasilnya ...jumlah 
>muslim di china lebih banyak dibanding muslim diindo :-)
>
>temen sayah yang ateis, yang lama tinggal di hollywood, terakhir ketemu 2 
>minggu lalu rajin shalat dan gemar dzikir. Saya goda die :"Bukankah shalat dan 
>dzikir sangat tidak rasional?" Die senyum ... "Seberapa cerdas sih otak kita 
>untuk meng compiler seluruh fenomena hidup ?" Lagian ... secara faktual ... 
>religiusitas lah yang bisa membuat saya bahagia dalam menjalani hidup ... 
>membuat saya sabar dalam menghadapi cobaan hidup...membuat saya bersyukur saat 
>mendapat kesenangan hidup...
>
>Hhhmmm...
>
>--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> 
>> Pinpin itu nggak jauh-jauh dari fundementalis kok kok...
>> 
>> Dia juga pake argumen "orang2 australi dan amrik yang pada masuk islam dalam 
>> 1- tahun terakhir adalah orang2 goblok macam elo ".
>> 
>> Dia tentu tidak tahu bahwa di negeri demokratik orang bebas berganti agama 
>> atau meninggalkan agama atau meninggalkan gereja tanpa meninggalkan agama...
>> 
>> 
>> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Si keparat satu ini kalo ngomong pd akhirnya selalu ga nyambung sama 
>> > sekali, ga tau apa krn dungunya ga kira2, atau emang bajingan tukang 
>> > fitnah. Atau kedua2nya.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > >________________________________
>> > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@>
>> > >To: [email protected] 
>> > >Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 12:25 PM
>> > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi ( Income si item )
>> > > 
>> > >
>> > >  
>> > >Tem ...
>> > >lo tanya sama orang australi ...
>> > >berapa banyak gereja yang BERUBAH jadi mesjid dalam 10 tahun terakhir ...
>> > >Lo lihat di Amrik ...
>> > >Berapa gereja yang BERUBAH jadi mesjid dalam 10 tahun terakhir ...
>> > >
>> > >Apa lo pikir orang2 australi dan amrik yang pada masuk islam dalam 1- 
>> > >tahun terakhir adalah orang2 goblok macam elo ?
>> > >
>> > >Yang bener aja tem ...
>> > >
>> > >Kasihan !
>> > >
>> > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hehehe.. lu ga ngerti golden rule bukan?
>> > >> 
>> > >> Emangnya lu pikir orang Indonesia itu berapa % sih yg ngerti Islam? 
>> > >> Pembantu gua yg rajin shalat itu sama sekali ga tau apa2 ttg Islam, 
>> > >> taunya cuma shalat dan puasa. Yg kayak gitu itu ga masuk hitungan sbg 
>> > >> orang Islam, goblok!
>> > >> 
>> > >> Sebaliknya orang Arab itu tahu Islam itu kayak apa, krn mereka belajar 
>> > >> Islam, bisa baca QUran dan rajin sekali diajarin ajaran Islam yg benar. 
>> > >> Jadi orang Arab  itu mewakili Islam secara valid, goblok!
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> >________________________________
>> > >> > From: Habe Proletar <proletar4@>
>> > >> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> > >> >Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 2:08 PM
>> > >> >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi ( Income si item )
>> > >> > 
>> > >> >
>> > >> >  
>> > >> >lu ngerti soal golden rule ngga sih sebenarnya?
>> > >> >lu pikir yang selama ini lu praktekan di sini sesuai dengan golden 
>> > >> >rule gitu?
>> > >> >lu mencak mencak mencaci maki orang Islam di indo dengan contoh 
>> > >> >kebiadaban yang terjadi di tanah arab
>> > >> >lu bilang, Muhammad phedopil ngawinin anak umur 9 tahun, itu bener 
>> > >> >kalau yang lu maki tradisi arab
>> > >> >tapi di indo siapa yang ngawinin bocah umur 9 tahun secara sah? 
>> > >> >bukannya syeh puji kemaren ini ditangkep?
>> > >> >lu bilang islam tukang perkosa, contohnya ya lagi lagi yang lu bawa 
>> > >> >orang arab 
>> > >> >
>> > >> >orang Islam indonesia mayoritas toleran, mereka menjadi radikal 
>> > >> >setelah mengarabkan diri
>> > >> >jadi lu selama ini buta, asal tebang tanpa memilih mana angrek mana 
>> > >> >benalu
>> > >> >dasar pala peyang emang lu
>> > >> >
>> > >> >________________________________
>> > >> >From: item abu <itemabu@>
>> > >> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> > >> >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 11:20 PM
>> > >> >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi ( Income si item )
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >  
>> > >> >Gua ngajarin golden rule ke elu, goblok!
>> > >> >
>> > >> >>________________________________
>> > >> >> From: Habe Proletar <proletar4@>
>> > >> >>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> > >> >>Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 12:28 PM
>> > >> >>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi ( Income si item )
>> > >> >> 
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>  
>> > >> >>lah, gue udah mengelengkapi kemauan lu bukan? lu kan bilang
>> > >> >>"  Hehehe... lu pasti ga tau yg namanya golden rule spt tipikal 
>> > >> >>Islam. Sebelum lu nanya orang, lu kasih tau dulu brp income lu, itu 
>> > >> >>aplikasi dr prinsip golden rule."
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>sekarang dah terjawab, kalau lu ngga tau berapa harga motor honda 
>> > >> >>spacy, itu sekitar 12 jutaan
>> > >> >>nah gantian, coba jawab berapa income elu sebulan ?
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>dasar manusia tapir lu, melenceng melulu bawaannya...
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>________________________________
>> > >> >>From: item abu <itemabu@>
>> > >> >>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> > >> >>Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 9:03 PM
>> > >> >>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi ( Income si item )
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>  
>> > >> >>Hehehe... ngomong pake muter2. Emangnya, siapa yg mau tahu brp harga 
>> > >> >>motor spacy dan siapa yg mau tahu brp gaji lu? 
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>Gua ga nanya gaji lu, gua cuma ngajarin lu implemetasi golden rule, 
>> > >> >>goblok!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>>________________________________
>> > >> >>> From: Habe Proletar <proletar4@>
>> > >> >>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> > >> >>>Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:20 AM
>> > >> >>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi ( Income si item )
>> > >> >>> 
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>  
>> > >> >>>income gue bersih sebulan ( gaji dan 2 rental house )
>> > >> >>>sekitar ...hmmm gimana ya agak ngga enak juga ngomongnya
>> > >> >>>oke deh...sama dengan 6 motor baru spacy ...
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>nah pe er buat elu, berapa harga motor baru  honda spacy, lu 
>> > >> >>>kaliin 6 itu penghasilan gue sebulan
>> > >> >>>bersih, udah bayar income tax, property tax,home warranty 
>> > >> >>>insurances 
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>nah sekarang lu berapa?
>> > >> >>>ngga usah sebutin nominalnya deh, pake  standar spacy aja yah
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>________________________________
>> > >> >>>From: item abu <itemabu@>
>> > >> >>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> > >> >>>Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 5:07 PM
>> > >> >>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi ( Income si item )
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>  
>> > >> >>>Hehehe... lu pasti ga tau yg namanya golden rule spt tipikal Islam. 
>> > >> >>>Sebelum lu nanya orang, lu kasih tau dulu brp income lu, itu 
>> > >> >>>aplikasi dr prinsip golden rule.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>>________________________________
>> > >> >>>> From: Habe Proletar <proletar4@>
>> > >> >>>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> > >> >>>>Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:02 AM
>> > >> >>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi ( Income si item )
>> > >> >>>> 
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>  
>> > >> >>>>tem,
>> > >> >>>>mendingan kasih tau aja berapa income ente sebulan
>> > >> >>>>walaupun ente ngebohong juga ngga bakalan ada yang tau kok
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>ngga perlu malu tem
>> > >> >>>>si kimhook aja bangga jadi orang miskin
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>________________________________
>> > >> >>>>From: item abu <itemabu@>
>> > >> >>>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> > >> >>>>Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 1:35 PM
>> > >> >>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>  
>> > >> >>>>Oh itu mungkin sodara muslim lu yg kerja di pajak, gua salah ingat. 
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>Ngakunya sih terima gaji 5 macam shg ga korupsi, tp ga mau ngaku 
>> > >> >>>>bhw itu adalah uang tutup mulut spy ga cerita kegiatan malak dan 
>> > >> >>>>korupsi di pajak.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>Apa hak lu unt nanya2 gaji gua? Lu ga ada hak sama sekali. Kalo lu 
>> > >> >>>>tau aturan, sebelum lu nanya, lu sebutin dulu brp gaji lu sendiri.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>>________________________________
>> > >> >>>>> From: Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@>
>> > >> >>>>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> > >> >>>>>Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 2:53 AM
>> > >> >>>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
>> > >> >>>>> 
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>  
>> > >> >>>>>Omong Kosong 
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>Berapa Gaji Elu Perbulan?
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>Inikan Pertanyaan Sederhana
>> > >> >>>>>Gua Hanya mau Tahu Angkanya.
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>________________________________
>> > >> >>>>>From: item abu <itemabu@>
>> > >> >>>>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> > >> >>>>>Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 3:47 PM
>> > >> >>>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>  
>> > >> >>>>>Apa bukannya lu yg kerja di pajak dan ga mau ngaku apakah kolega 
>> > >> >>>>>lu itu tukang palak dan koruptor apa bukan?
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>________________________________
>> > >> >>>>>> From: Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@>
>> > >> >>>>>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> > >> >>>>>>Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 7:22 PM
>> > >> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
>> > >> >>>>>> 
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>  
>> > >> >>>>>>Buluk Bukan nya tiap2 hari elu nemperaktekan Iptek&Logika ngaur 
>> > >> >>>>>>disini 
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>Pakek lagi bawa2 MUI emang nya elu Punya kepentingan dengan itu
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>Ada kagak di RT/RW anak ingusan diperkosa?
>> > >> >>>>>>inikan Omongan tolol yang elu bentur2in tiap2 hari disini
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>Gua Tanya Heh berapa Elu punya Gaji Sebulan?
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>________________________________
>> > >> >>>>>>From: item abu <itemabu@>
>> > >> >>>>>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> > >> >>>>>>Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 7:36 AM
>> > >> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>  
>> > >> >>>>>>Ga cuma pengetahuannya yg cetek, tp logikanya jg ngawur sama 
>> > >> >>>>>>sekali. Kalo MUI aja bisa ngebela tindakan pedophilia dgn bilang 
>> > >> >>>>>>itu ga ngelanggar ajaran Islam, pasti itu krn emang ga ngelanggar 
>> > >> >>>>>>ajaran Islam alias Islam ngehalalkan ngembat anak ingusan.
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>________________________________
>> > >> >>>>>>> From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@>
>> > >> >>>>>>>To: [email protected] 
>> > >> >>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 5:59 PM
>> > >> >>>>>>>Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
>> > >> >>>>>>> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>  
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>Pengetahuan Pinpin yang dungu kayak anjing dan yang juga adalah 
>> > >> >>>>>>>bangsat tukang kibul serta bajingan tukang fitnah ini tentang 
>> > >> >>>>>>>agama Islam sungguh cetek kayak comberan dimusim kemarau di 
>> > >> >>>>>>>Jakarta..
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>Dan gobloknya juga nggak ketulunangan.
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>Dia pamer kedangkanal pengetahuannnya dengan menulis: 
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>"Dari penelusuran yang saya dapat. aisyah serumah dengan 
>> > >> >>>>>>>muhammad pada usia sekitar belasan tahun. " Padahal sumber Islam 
>> > >> >>>>>>>meriwayatkan tu bocah mulai serumah dengan nabi babi nista 
>> > >> >>>>>>>Muhammad ketiak Aisyah bemurr 9 tahun.
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>Dan gobloknya dia nggak becus menelusuri hadits itu yag padahal 
>> > >> >>>>>>>gampang dicari dizaman digital dengan internetnya ini.
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>Nih saya temukan dengan gampang salah satu diantaranya: 
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six 
>> > >> >>>>>>>years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine 
>> > >> >>>>>>>years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., 
>> > >> >>>>>>>till his death).
>> > >> >>>>>>>Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>--- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" 
>> > >> >>>>>>><pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Dari penelusuran yang saya dapat. aisyah serumah dengan 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> muhammad pada usia sekitar belasan tahun. Tapi okelah... kita 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> anggap saja asumsinya benar bahwa usia nya 9 tahun....
>> > >> >>>>>>>> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> beberapa pertanyaan berikutnya adalah :
>> > >> >>>>>>>> 1. Apakah muhammad saat itu menjadi satu2 nya laki-laki"tua" 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> yang menikahi anak se usia itu ?
>> > >> >>>>>>>> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> 2. Apakah definisi fedophile dan apakah muhammad masuk 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> kategory fedophile ?
>> > >> >>>>>>>> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Monggo googling ... pada SAAT ITU di kawasan arab menikahi 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> "anak kecil" adalah sebuah budaya biasa.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Monggo cermati ... jika hal itu adalah sebuah budaya yang 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> biasa pada saat itu, dmana pada saat itu nilai perempuan 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> secara budaya dipandang "kurang berguna", (banyak anak 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> perempuan dibunuh sesaat setelah lahir), maka ... tidakkah 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> tindakan muhammad ini sangat bernilai di depan abu bakar ? 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Anda harus benar-benar berada di sana pada saat itu untuk 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> mengetahui secara pasti apa sebenarnya yang terjadi antara abu 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> bakar -muhammad dan aisyah.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Gitu Tem....
>> > >> >>>>>>>> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Pinpin
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Islam Protestan
>> > >> >>>>>>>> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>> >
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > Hehehe... pinpin ga mau ngaku fakta nabinya ngembat anak 9 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > thn dan auloh ngehalalin ngembat anak ingusan yg blm mens, 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > maka dia kaing2 ga keruan.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >________________________________
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >To: [email protected] 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:42 AM
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >  
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >Tem.....lama2 saya pikir saya buang2 waktu nulis sama elo.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >bisa nya "hehehe...." doang.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Hehehe ... pinpin cuma kaing2 terus, ga bisa ngomongin 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> fakta.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> --- On Fri, 6/1/12, pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> To: [email protected]
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 7:45 AM
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> ÃÆ'‚  
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> baru belajar kosa kata konteks ya tem ?
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> ok deh kita belajar bersama.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> mudah2 an jadi amal sholeh :-)
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> ----
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Gua rasa, maksut elo mungkin asbab gimana 2:217 atau 9:5 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> nongol.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> saya ajarin ya tem ...
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> elo tinggal masuk google.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> ketik asbabun nuzul alquran surat 2 ayat 217 ...
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> terus ketik halyang sama
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> asbabun nuzul alquran surat 9 ayat 27 ...
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> saat elo dapet asbab ayat2 itu turun, elo baru mengetahui 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> konteks ayat ayat itu turun dalam frame waktu SAAT ITU 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> (baca : dulu)
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> nah ....
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> elo tinggal tarik, apa korelasi ayat2 yang turun DULU itu 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> dalam KONTEKS ke KINI an ... artinya ada perubahan FRAME 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> WAKTU secara kontekstual.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> kemudian ....
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> gunakan ke 5 indra untuk memahami ayat2 itu,kemudian 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> ...tanya ...intuisi pribadi anda dan ajakintuisi anda 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> untuk memahami ayat2 itu kemudian ... ujung2 nya tetap 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> ACTION.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> maksudnya ...
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> bagaimana anda MENYIKAPI apa yang telah anda ketahui 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> berkenaan dengan hal2 tersebut berkenaan dengan 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> POSITIONING yang anda pilih (muslim/non muslim/teis/ateis)
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> hidup ini kan intinya bagaimana kita bisa memberi manfaat 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> bagi orang-orang di sekeliling kita (terlepas di 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> sekeliling kita itu ateis atau teis, se iman atau tidak ).
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> seorang teman saya pernah bilang : "Hidup ini sederhana, 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> intinya adalah bagaimana kita bisa meninggalkan 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> kenangan-kenangan manis pada orang-orang yang kita 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> tinggalkan saat kita telah tiada nanti )
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Apa kenangan manis itu ?
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Misalnya : Kita bisa mengira-ngira saat jusplik meninggal 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> kelak ( meskipun nddak percaya tuhan,mestinya jusplik 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> percaya bahwa die bakal mati meskipun mati nya jusplik 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> itu jelas tidak dapat dipastikan kapan, di mana dan 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> mengapa serta apa yang akan terjadi setelah itu)
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> kira-kira ...ketika jusplik mati, kenangan manis apa yang 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> dia tinggalkan ?
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> (Kim Hook mungkin mengacungkan tangan seraya berkata : 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Pantatnya parah .... nddak "gigit" lagih ! ;-) )
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > Gua rasa, si pinpin itu jg ga tau konteks ayat, 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > misalnya gimana 2:217 atau 9:5 nongol.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > Kaing2nya itu kan cuma sekedar nutupin kegabecusannya.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > --- On Fri, 6/1/12, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi (secara 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > kontekstual taik kucing..)
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > To: [email protected]
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 4:23 AM
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
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>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > Dia ngoceh mau bicara "secara kontekstual" tanpa dia 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > tahu dulu apa yang ada di teks khurafah najis al-Mushaf 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > itu sendiri..
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > Yaitu, antara lain, 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > - bahwa sesuai dengan QS 4:82 maka al-Mushaf itu TIDAK 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > berasal dari sisi allah yang nota bene cuman figur 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > fiktif hasil khayalan orang Arab primitif.. 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/341160 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > - dan bahwa al-Mushaf itu "diturunkan" dan nabi 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > Muhamamd itu "diutus" untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > sekitarnya yang berbahasa Arab, jadi bukan untuk 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > berbagai suku bangsa yang ada di Indonesia yang 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > masing-masing punya bahasanya sendiri-sendiri..
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/341294 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > Agar jelas: al-Mushaf itu cuma sebuah khurafah yang 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > ditulis oleh orang Arab primitif ...
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > Atau seperti sudah belasan tahun saya tulis, cuma 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > semacam tambo orang Bedui yang hidup di abad ke VIII 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > Masehi..
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/86964
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > Tambo itu adalah creation myth orang Minangkabau 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > primitif dan al-Mushaf itu adalah creation myth orang 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > Arab primitif..
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > Selanjutnya baca link Wikipedia ini tentang creation 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > myth.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_myth
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > >
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > si pinpin ini cuma bisa kaign2 kayak anjing kejepit 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > buntut.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > --- On Fri, 6/1/12, pinpinyuliansyah 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > (rezameutia yang psikopat....)
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > To: [email protected]
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 1:28 AM
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
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>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > Hehehe ...(juga)
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > saat pangeran dipenogoro berperang, kira2 pedang yang 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > beliau pegang digunakan buat apa ?
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > Saat panglima besar sudirman berperang, kira2 berapa 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > banyak tangannya membunuh orang ?
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > mari kita diskusi secara kontekstual. bukan sekedar 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > tektual dan bangga ber "hehehe...." hanya dengan 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > modal cut & paste.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > Mbak ya jadi ateis itu yang cerdas dikit gitu lho...
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > Kasihan.
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > wrote:
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>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > > Hehehe ... orang Islam ga bisa bantah nabinya 
>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > > > adalah tukang bantai, tp jg ga bisa bilang bhw 
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