***Aneh juga, penyebaran demokrasi dengan kekerasan ? Bukankah membenarkan islamisasi dengan perang jihad, kristenisasi dengan perang salib ?
***Keputusan pemerintah menghapus subsidi BBM, ada suara yang menghasut rakyat menggulingkan SBY. Sedangkan di AS, TIDAK ada anjuran penukaran presiden, sekalipun banyak yang tidak mendukung invasi AS ke Irak : Asked if they thought the goal of overthrowing Iraq's authoritarian government and establishing a democracy was by itself a good enough reason to go to war, 74 percent said no and 19 percent said yes. >From the Chicago Tribune 55% reject using force to spread democracy By Tom Hundley Tribune correspondent September 30, 2005 As doubts grow about U.S. military involvement in Iraq, a new poll shows a majority of Americans think that using force to promote democracy is a bad idea. According to a survey conducted by the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations and released Thursday, only 35 percent of those polled favored using military force to overthrow dictators while 55 percent opposed the idea. Less than 17 percent supported the idea of threatening countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan with military force if they did not institute democratic reforms. Asked if they thought the goal of overthrowing Iraq's authoritarian government and establishing a democracy was by itself a good enough reason to go to war, 74 percent said no and 19 percent said yes. Among those who said no, 60 percent identified themselves as Republicans and 86 percent said they were Democrats. "The sense I get from this is that the American public has become far more skeptical about what is happening in Iraq," said Christopher Whitney, director of studies at the council. "They don't see the benefits," he said. "They don't see the Iraq war as justifiable in terms of democratization." In his State of the Union address and in several subsequent speeches, President Bush has argued that promoting democracy around the world was a key weapon in fighting the war on terrorism. But according to the survey, only 26 percent agreed that the world is safer when there are more democracies, and only 46 percent thought it was true that democracies were less likely to go to war with each other. The poll, a joint project of the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations and the Program on International Policy Attitudes, was conducted Sept. 15-21 with a nationwide sample of 808 respondents. The margin of error was plus or minus 3.5 to 4 percentage points. The findings are consistent with other polls in which a majority of Americans now say they think the Iraq war was a mistake. In a shift away from traditional party outlooks, people who identified themselves as Republicans took a more idealistic approach to foreign affairs while Democrats were more pragmatic. For example, 59 percent of Republicans and 52 percent of Democrats agreed that democracy is the best form of government for all countries; 51 percent of the Republican respondents said that the U.S. should put greater pressure on countries such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt to become more democratic while only 32 percent of Democrats agreed. Republicans were also more inclined to support a country becoming a democracy even if there was a high likelihood that its people would elect an Islamic fundamentalist leader. "Republicans aren't thinking as they used to think on these issues," said Whitney. "There has been a role reversal at the leadership level and it has trickled down." The reason for the shift is Iraq and the growing polarization of opinion on U.S. military's chances for success. "It's clear that people are taking their cues from the president--either embracing his leadership or moving away from it," Whitney said. ---------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/chi-0509300313sep30,0,4971596.story?coll=ny-leadnationalnews-headlines ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/uTGrlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
