Jadi, jelas, Pinpin ini pendukung teror..
--- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@...> wrote: > > kenapa cara berpikirnya nddak dibalik ? > > Misalnya dengan bilang "Islam itu dahsyat ! Bisa bikin manusia rela bunuh > diri hanya untuk alasan agama ! " > > bandingkan dengan karesten yang nyaris nddak bakal ditemukan ada ummatnya > yang rela melakukan bom bunuh diri atas nama yesus ! > > bandingkan dengan nasionalis atawa marxis atawa sosialis yang para > prajuritnya pda takut mati ! > > Nah ... jika frame work kita udah gini, maka kita nddak akan menghujat islam, > dalam arti kita akan lebih memilih untuk belajar islam agar bisa memahami WHY > banyak manusia yang rela mati demi islam (padahal pan alkitap juga sama sama > janjiin sorga :-) ) > > Ketika hati kita tersentuh untuk mempelajari islam, maka dengan sedikit jiwa > leadership, maka kita bisa mengajak kaum muslimin bukan hanya "berani mati" > namun juga memupuk keberanian untuk "berani hidup !" > > berani mati memang butuh nyali. namun berani hidup juga butuh hal yang sama. > > di sini bedanya islam. Berani hidup dan tidak takut mati (bukan berani mati > karena takut hidup) > > berani hidup > tak takut mati. > takut mati ? > jangan hidup ! > Takut hidup ? > mati saja ! > > ini arus yang sekarang terjadi. dan ini yang sama sekali tidak diperhitungkan > pasca peledakan wtc. saat islam di cap sebagai "teroris" maka paradox pun > berjalan ... hasilnya antitesa... implikasinya jadi banyak orang yang belajar > islam untuk memahami "roh keislaman" ... hasil akhirnya ? > > monggo lihat data statistik berapa banyak orang eropa yang justru masuk islam > pasca tragedi wtc. > > keep it simple. > > --- In [email protected], Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> wrote: > > > > Well, the best terrorist is a dead terrorist! > >  > > Rupanya si teroris Perancis ini dicekoki dg ajaran agama ''cinta damai'' > > dan multiple wives. Tentunya dia juga di-iming2-i bhw nanti di sorga Islam > > dia akan dikawinkan dg 72 bidadari. > >  > > Begitulah kira2 mutu dari jihadists apakah foreign atau home-grown. Mereka > > terlanjur percaya janji dusta. Mereka tidak sempat berfikir bhw kalau ada > > tuhan yg berperilaku spt a pim atau mucikari, tentunya itu tuhan palsu > > alias iblis! > >  > > Gabriella > >  > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: bukan.pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Monday, 8 October 2012 4:35 AM > > Subject: [proletar] France24: Home-grown terror suspects spark French alert > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Teroris islam lagi? > > > > --- > > > > Home-grown terror suspects spark French alert > > By FRANCE 24 the 07/10/2012 - 16:17 > > > > The shooting of suspected terrorist Jérémie Louis-Sidney Saturday has > > raised alarm in France, not only because of terrorism fears, but also > > because he was a home-grown militant. Sidney was shot during a raid in a > > large scale police operation. > > > > For Jérémie Louis-Sidney, France's latest home-grown terror suspect, the > > end came swiftly and violently. > > > > On Saturday morning, the 33-year-old Frenchman was sitting on a couch in a > > Strasbourg apartment when special anti-terror police officers stormed into > > the premises, according to police sources. > > > > Sidney immediately fired at them with a .357 Magnum, emptying his Smith & > > Wesson pistol barrel before he was shot dead by police. > > > > Three police officers were injured â" including one who was shot in the > > chest and another in the head. They were both protected by their helmets > > and body armour. > > > > Sidney, a recent convert to Islam, was in the home of "one of his two > > religious wives" - a 22-year-old woman - and her six-year-old daughter and > > a one-month-old infant, according to Paris prosecutor Francois Molins. > > > > But not much is known about the man at the heart of Saturday's nationwide > > anti-terror raids that resulted in Sidney's death and the arrests of 11 > > other terror suspects. > > > > French police say Sidney was a suspect in the September 19 bombing of a > > kosher grocery store in the gritty northern Parisian suburb of Sarcelles. > > > > Saturday's crackdown was directed at a suspected Salafist network believed > > to be behind the kosher grocery bombing, which was conducted by "a > > low-grade explosive device". One person was lightly injured in the attack, > > which caused considerable alarm among France's Jewish community. > > > > According to police sources, DNA identified on the grenade was traced to > > Sidney, who had been under surveillance since last spring. > > > > Hollande pledges to fight extremism and anti-Semitism > > > > The kosher grocery bombing and the subsequent anti-terror raids come at a > > time of heightened security across France following the publication of > > cartoons lampooning the Prophet Mohammed in a French satirical weekly. The > > publication came days after violent demonstrations against an anti-Islam > > film produced in the US broke out across the Muslim world. > > > > Tensions are high in the Jewish community after a series of attacks and > > threats. These have ranged from death threats against the chief rabbi of > > Lyon, to an attack with a hammer and iron bars on three young Jewish men. > > > > On Sunday, French President François Hollande met with Jewish leaders at > > the Elysee presidential palace and pledged to fight extremism and > > anti-Semitism "with the greatest firmness". > > > > "The state is totally mobilised to fight all terror threats," said > > Hollande, who vowed that "planned anti-terror laws will be put before > > parliament as soon as possible." > > > > Hollande also noted that France, home to Europe's largest Muslim > > population, should not "stigmatise" its estimated four million adherents. > > > > "The Muslims of France are not all Islamist fanatics," he said. "They are > > also victims." > > > > Meanwhile, French Interior Minister Manuel Valls warned of a surge in > > home-grown Islamist radicals. > > > > "There is a terrorist threat in France," said Valls in a radio interview > > Sunday. "It does not appear to come from foreigners, it appears to be > > French converts." > > > > A petty criminal radicalised in prison > > > > The latest crackdown came nearly seven months after police gunned down > > Mohammed Merah, the 33-year-old suspect in the Toulouse terrorist attacks, > > which killed seven people, including three people at a Jewish school. > > > > Paris prosecutor Molins described Sidney as, "a delinquent who had > > converted to radical Islam". > > > > Born in Melun, a town 60 kilometres south of Paris, Sidney had a history of > > petty crime, according to police sources. > > > > In 2008, he was sentenced to two years in prison in a drug trafficking case > > and is believed to have become radicalised while in jail. > > > > Religiously married to two women, he had recently moved into the quiet > > Esplanade neighbourhood of Strasbourg. But he frequently visited the > > southern French city of Cannes, where his other "wife" lived. > > > > It was not known if Sidney had travelled abroad to study Islam or on > > jihadist missions - as was the case with Merah, who had travelled to > > Pakistan and Afghanistan. > > > > According to Strasbourg prosecutor Patrick Poirret, Sidney had shaved his > > beard when he arrived in the eastern French city â" a sign, said Poirret, > > that the 33-year-old was ready to conduct a terror mission and end his life > > "as a martyr". > > > > Strasbourg police sources say Sidney had four wills, as well as a list of > > Jewish associations in the Paris region, all of which were recovered in > > Saturday's raids. > > > > French police said stop-and-search missions continued Sunday. Sidney's > > residence in Cannes â" where he lived with one of his "wives" â" was also > > raided Saturday. In Strasbourg, his other wife - who was in the apartment > > with her two children during Saturday's raid â" was taken in for > > questioning. > > > > Source URL: > > http://www.france24.com/en/20121007-france-latest-home-grown-terrorism-suspect-french-alert-kosher-attack-strasbourg > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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