Goblok.
Tolol. Bodoh. Dungu. Pandir. Otak anjing. Perempuan yang bahagia direndahkan, dihina dan ditindas oleh ajaran najis Islam itu jelas adalah perempuan dungu, perempuan yang tidak tahu harga diri.. --- In [email protected], Dimas Wuryanto <dimaswur@...> wrote: > > Sementara barangkali kamu tidak sanggup melihaat wanita2 Islam itu bahagia. > Pandangan kamu sangat relatif Bung; tapi kamu melihat satu orang teriak > kesakitan; lantas kamu simpulkan bahwa semua wanita didunia teriak juga ? > > > --- On Thu, 11/22/12, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@...> > Subject: [proletar] Re: IPS:Radical Clerics ("arra_s" perempuan dungu...) > To: [email protected] > Received: Thursday, November 22, 2012, 3:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Otak Dimas Wuryanto ini jelas sudah rusak berat... > > > > Begitu riusak otaknya hingga dia tidak sanggup lagi melihat perempuan yagn > ditindas di dar al Islam. > > > > --- In [email protected], Dimas Wuryanto <dimaswur@> wrote: > > > > > > yang anehnya aman2 saja tuh para perempuan di seluruh dunia. Jsdi ini > > artinya yang goblok; yang bloon; yang tolol dlsb nya tuh ya si bukan > > prdanda lah > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/21/12, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: IPS:Radical Clerics ("arra_s" perempuan dungu...) > > > To: [email protected] > > > Received: Wednesday, November 21, 2012, 9:12 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > à> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bodoh. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tolol. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dungu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pandir. > > > > > > > > > > > > Goblok. > > > > > > > > > > > > Otak babi. > > > > > > > > > > > > Penindasan perempuan di Arab Saudi dan negara lainya yang melaksanakan > > shariah taik anjing itu sesuai belaka dengan ajaran agama najis islam. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Dimas Wuryanto <dimaswur@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yah mudah2an saja praktek Islaam di Indonesia tidak seketat seperti di > > > KSA. Hanya saja; yang namanya menutup aaurat memang itu kewajiban setiap > > > Muslim; bukan hany perempuan saja; laki2pun haarus menutup auratnya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/20/12, Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: IPS:Radical Clerics ("arra_s" perempuan > > > dungu...) > > > > > > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Received: Tuesday, November 20, 2012, 3:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arra_s, masalahnya di negera2 Islami spt Pakistan, Iran, Mesir , > > > Saudi Arabia dan Sudan kaum perempuan masih saja diperlakukan sebagai sex > > > object sesuai dengan kebiasaan 'basi' dari abad ke-7. Yang membuat aku > > > kecewa, marah dan takut ialah bhw sejumlah Muslim Indonesia mendambakan > > > praktik 'basi' tsb di abad ini. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kita sudah melihat bgmn sebagian Muslimat diwajibkan menutupi awrat > > > mereka dengan sempurna. Di Serambi Mekkah sudah diberlakukan 'hukum basi' > > > yg cenderung memojokkan kaum perempuan. Mereka sudah mempekerjakan > > > 'polisi susila/syariah'. I wonder who police them? Spt Muttawa di banyak > > > negara Timur Tengah mereka ini brutal terhadap perempuan - kecenderungan > > > mysogynistic - kebencian thdp perempuan yg terkandung dlm ajaran basi dan > > > dlm teladan hidup tokoh utama Islam. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2012 1:13 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: IPS:Radical Clerics ("arra_s" perempuan dungu...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "arra_s" ini jelas sungguh tolol. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "arra_s" jelas sungguh goblok. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "arra_s" ini jelas sungguh bodoh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "arra_s" ini jelas sungguh dungu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "arra_s" ini jelas sungguh pandir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yang ada dibatok kepala "arra_s" itu jelas otak anjing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Makanya kayak anjing yang suka menggongoagn asal menyalak dia bilang: > > > "ini milis indonesia Plik." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Begitu dungunya, begitu gobloknya, begitu bodohnya, begitu pandirnya > > > begitu tololnya hingga dia tidak tahu bahwa mailing list ini tidak > > > terbatas untuk hanya bicara tentang Indonesia.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagian thread ini dimulai dengan bacotan ulama Mesir.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan dibalik itu berita tentantg Syheik Puji yang ngawini bocak cilik juga > > > belum lama betul terjadi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan sambil lalu baca nih.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/indonesia-survey-says-early-marriages-lead-girls-into-lives-of-desperation/408365 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yeah mulai lagi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kata kata jorok di umbar.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itu kejadian dimane?? yemen? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ini milis indonesia Plik.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kirim aja ke sono ke milis yemen.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maki maki deh itu sluruh yemen.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > udah lupa pepatah petitih minang? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lain padang lain belalang.. lain lubuk lain ikan nya??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "arra_s" yang termasuk perempuan paling dungu dimuka bumi ini lagi > > > > > pamer isi otaknya yang sudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi > > > > > menjijikkan... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Berita tentang omongan ulama taik babi itu masih hangat betul, masih > > > > > aktuil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sambil lalu, baca nih.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/12/08/yemen-child-marriage-spurs-abuse-girls-and-women > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "arra_s" yang termasuk perempuan paling dungu dimuka bumi itu juga > > > > > belum sadar bahwa menurut ajaran agama najis Islam yang dianutnya itu > > > > > perempuan itu cuma sekedar lobang buat dientotin laki-laki atau > > > > > menurut istilah Gabriella Rantau "sekedar awrat berjalan" dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diakhirat perempuan itu kebanyakan bakal masuk neraka sedangkankan > > > > > yang berhasil masuk sorga bakal melongo abadi, karena suaminya bakal > > > > > sibuk ngentot dengan 72 bidadari perawan abadi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], <arra_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neng Gaby.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jangan terlalu banyak berkhayal ke jaman barbar.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > untuk ukuran jaman sekarang.. yg kamu omongin terdengar basi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kumaha mang? Coba baca ulang apa yg dianjurkan oleh si imam > > > > > > > dungu. Ingat teladan hidup nabi junjungan sehubungan dg Aisha. > > > > > > > Ajaran Islam banyak yg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) Meremehkan kaum perempuan. Menganggap perempuan tu sekedar > > > > > > > awrat berjalan (betapa tidak mnrt hadist dari ujung kepala sampai > > > > > > > kaki harus ditutupi karena dianggap awrat!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) Si imut2 Aisha yg baru 6 tahun dilamar (beliau MENULIS > > > > > > > kontrak kawin mnrt hadist bersumber Aisha). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (3) Beliau sampai hati menjeitkan 'torpedo-nya' di antara paha > > > > > > > Aisha. Kebiasaan ini masih dipraktikkan di banyak negara Islami. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) Allah mengharuskan bini2 mencukur jembutnya kalau sang suami > > > > > > > pulang malam dari perjalanan jauh. Jaman itu tentunya terpaksa > > > > > > > pakai pisau biasa! Ouch!pudenda, alat kelamin perempuan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (5) Bini harus melayani kehendak suami untuk ngesek kapan saja, > > > > > > > di mana saja kalau tidak dikutuk oleh malaikat! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (6) Mnrt berbagai hadist 'mahr' atau mas-kawin itu dinyatakan > > > > > > > sebagai ongkos beli seluruh badan si bini. Dg kata lain seluruh > > > > > > > awratnya sudah menjadi milik si suami! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (7) Masih banyak ayat Qur'an dan hadist yg membicarakan pudenda > > > > > > > atau alat kelamin perempuan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pertanyaan yg perlu dipertanyakan ialah siapa dan ajaran mana yg > > > > > > > selalu membicarakan selangkang? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: rezameutia <rezameutia@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2012 11:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: IPS:Radical Clerics Seek to Legalise > > > > > > > Child Brides > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenapa orang Kristen seperti Gabby, item, ini selalu pikirannya > > > > > > > cuman disekitar selangkangan doang ya? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karena Alkitab isinya Kidung Agung mengajarkan ajaran cabul sih... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Si imam dungu itu berkata: "The important thing > > > > > > > > isÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàthat the girl is > > > > > > > > ready and can tolerate marriage!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sedang dia dan semua Muslim tahu bhw perempuan apalagi yg masih > > > > > > > > di bawah umur tidak mungkin berani menyangkal, menolak kehendak > > > > > > > > orang tuanya. Jadi spt halnya Aisha dia mau tidak mau ketika > > > > > > > > baru umur 9 tahun ditiduri oleh orang yg sudah 50 tahun. [Dan > > > > > > > > mnrt hadist sebelum consumating the marriage, sang calon suami > > > > > > > > sering ngejepitin torpedonya di antara paha si anak imut2 tsb.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ini jelas praktik yg tidak bisa diterima civilized society di > > > > > > > > abad ke-21 ini. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 9:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] IPS:Radical Clerics Seek to Legalise Child > > > > > > > > Brides > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Islam itu, dan bukan hanya Salafi, sungguh nista dan > > > > > > > > menjijikkan... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Radical Clerics Seek to Legalise Child Brides > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By Cam McGrath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CAIRO, Nov 14 2012 (IPS) - An ultraconservative Salafi cleric > > > > > > > > recently sparked outrage among Egypt's liberal circles when he > > > > > > > > attempted to justify his opposition to a proposed > > > > > > > > constitutional article that would outlaw the trafficking of > > > > > > > > women for sex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Speaking on privately-owned Al-Nas satellite channel, Sheikh > > > > > > > > Mohamed Saad El-Azhary said he feared the proposed article > > > > > > > > could conflict with the local practice of child marriage. He > > > > > > > > explained that in Egypt, particularly in rural areas, there is > > > > > > > > a culture of marrying off girls as soon as they hit puberty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The important thing is that the girl is ready and can tolerate > > > > > > > > marriage," El-Azhary declared. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He went on to protest proposed laws protecting women from > > > > > > > > violence, warning that if allowed to pass husbands could be > > > > > > > > prosecuted for beating their child brides or forcing themselves > > > > > > > > upon them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "If you have intercourse with your wife against her will, she > > > > > > > > will be able to file a complaint against you," he said. "That's > > > > > > > > where things are headed." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Followers of the Salafi trend believe in a literal reading of > > > > > > > > the Quran and hadith (traditions of Prophet Muhammad) and > > > > > > > > aspire to emulate the lifestyle of the Prophet and his > > > > > > > > companions. Their puritanical approach to Islam has put them at > > > > > > > > odds with secular Muslims and minority groups, who denounce > > > > > > > > their intolerant worldview. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For Salafis, the fundamental justification for child marriage > > > > > > > > is passages in the hadith that state Prophet Muhammad married > > > > > > > > his third wife when she was six years old, and consummated the > > > > > > > > marriage after her first menses at nine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sheikh Yasser Borhamy, spokesman for the Salafi Dawah, outlined > > > > > > > > his interpretation of the Quranic texts during an interview > > > > > > > > with TV presenter Wael El-Ebrashy. He argued that Egypt's > > > > > > > > marriage laws contradict the provisions of Sharia (Islamic > > > > > > > > law), as girls should be married off once they reach puberty, > > > > > > > > or before "if she can". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "If Islam allowed it during the Prophet's time, it will be > > > > > > > > permissible until the End of Days," Borhamy asserted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While Salafis represent just a small but vocal minority of > > > > > > > > Egyptians, the recent election of an Islamist parliament and > > > > > > > > president has extended their political clout. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what deeply concerns child rights advocates is that > > > > > > > > El-Azhary and Borhamy are members of the committee tasked with > > > > > > > > drafting Egypt's new constitution. And they are not alone. > > > > > > > > Other members of the Islamist-stacked panel are known to share > > > > > > > > their views on child marriage and may be attempting to enshrine > > > > > > > > them in the constitution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "We fought for years to raise the minimum age of marriage for > > > > > > > > girls (from 16) to 18, and now the Islamists want to lower it," > > > > > > > > says women's rights activist Azza Kamel. "There are Salafis > > > > > > > > arguing it should be as low as nine." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some battles may have already been lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a copy of the constitution's first draft circulated last > > > > > > > > month, rights advocates were shocked to find that a proposed > > > > > > > > clause banning the trafficking of women had been omitted. > > > > > > > > Salafi members of the drafting committee had argued to have it > > > > > > > > removed on the grounds that human trafficking "does not exist > > > > > > > > in Egypt" and its mere mention "tarnishes Egypt's image." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > International agencies strongly disagree. According to a 2010 > > > > > > > > report by the U.S. State Department, human trafficking exists > > > > > > > > at many levels in Egypt. The country is a transit point and > > > > > > > > destination for trafficked African and Asian women and > > > > > > > > children, who are subjected to forced labour and prostitution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is also a source of trafficked women, including young girls > > > > > > > > exploited under the guise of marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Local NGO Memphis Foundation for Development says the > > > > > > > > phenomenon of child marriage is widespread in Egypt, > > > > > > > > particularly in rural areas where parents often marry off their > > > > > > > > daughters early to escape grinding poverty. Research conducted > > > > > > > > in 2008 found that nearly a quarter of all marriages involved > > > > > > > > girls under 16. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Afaf Marei, director of the Egyptian Association for Community > > > > > > > > Participation Enhancement (EACPE), says many of these underage > > > > > > > > girls are sold by their parents to wealthy Gulf Arabs who come > > > > > > > > to Egypt in search of "summer brides". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The marriages are arranged by lawyers who act as brokers, and > > > > > > > > may last from hours to months according to the "dowry" paid to > > > > > > > > the parents. Often the transaction is made without the girl's > > > > > > > > knowledge or consent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "These marriages are a form of trafficking women (under the > > > > > > > > pretence of) Islamic law," says Marei. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Muslim Brotherhood, the conservative Islamic group that > > > > > > > > dominated this year's parliamentary and presidential polls, has > > > > > > > > kept a low profile in the discourse on child marriage. While > > > > > > > > some reformists in the group reject the practice, its hardline > > > > > > > > leaders were the principal opponents of the 2008 law that > > > > > > > > raised the minimum marriage age of girls to 18. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, as pressure mounts on the constitutional drafting body to > > > > > > > > have the document ready by a Dec. 12 deadline, the > > > > > > > > Brotherhood's weight could prove decisive both on the panel and > > > > > > > > at the polls. If the constitution goes to a referendum without > > > > > > > > a clause explicitly banning the trafficking of women, it is > > > > > > > > likely to pass given the Brotherhood's ability to rally public > > > > > > > > support, say liberal activists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "We're fighting to win, but rationally I don't think we can," > > > > > > > > concedes Amal Abdel Hadi, head of the New Women Foundation. > > > > > > > > "This is just one battle and we're fighting the Islamists on > > > > > > > > even greater issues such as (to guarantee) the equality of > > > > > > > > citizenship." 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