Saya teringat debat kami utusan berbagai NGO ke sidang tahunan Sub-Komisi HAM PBB di Jenewa tahun delapan puluhan dan sembilan puluhan dengan expert dari RRT..
Expert dari RRT bilagn, in a nutshell, hak buat perut kenyang dulu yang diberi prioritas, freedom of opinion nanti belakangan. Dan, kami bilang "All rights and now". Kembali ke topik.. Tidak salah sama sekali untuk bilang "sebelum berbicara tentang palestina, indonesia, atawa un atau iran. . atawa iraq. . . . apanan pertanyaan pertama yang mosti di jawap adalah : di dalam kulkas kita ada makanan apa aja?". Tapi mengingat bahwa menurut ilmuwan manusia itu punya gene untuk bersimpati dengan orang lain yang menderita, susah bagi orang Indonesia, atau orang lain dimanapun dimuka bumi ini untuk TIDAK menunjukkkan rasa simpatinya kepada penderitaan yang sudah begitu lama diderita orang Palestina atau penderitaan yang dialami oleh orang Islam di Timur Tengah yang sedang berbunuhan. Atau penderitaan yang dihadapi orang lain dimanapun dimuka bumi ini. --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@...> wrote: > > ya. . . ya. . . ya. . . , emang mosti ada standar neh . . . sebelum berbicara > tentang palestina, indonesia, atawa un atau iran. . atawa iraq. . . . apanan > pertanyaan pertama yang mosti di jawap adalah : di dalam kulkas kita ada > makanan apa aja? > > ada pepatah bilang apanan "jangan dulu berbicara tentang kebijaksanaan jika > kulkas di rumah hanya berisi es batu doang . . . penuhi dulu kulkas dengan > makanan sebelum berbicara banyak tentang indonesia, century, ambon, atau > palestina . . . " > > begitu neh . . . > > orang lapar mah apanan jangankan bicara palestina, bahkan dalam kehidupan > demokrasipun orang lapar mah apanan bahkan sangat amat mengganggu jalannya > demokrasi. misalnya : jual suara hanya gara gara duit goban. nukar suara > hanya untuk seliter atawa sepuluh litwr beras. . . misalnya : mau maunya > diajak demontrasi ini itu hanya buat duit noban sama sebungkus nasi padang. > > bahkan untuk berdemokrasi aja . . . tetep mosti lihat dulu di kulkas ada > makanan apa aja. jangan sampai bicara idealis ini itu, tapi di kulkas cuman > ada 3 biji kentang. > > apanan nddak lucu pan . . . > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > Kulkas de freezer saya penuh.. > > > > Dan dua supermarket besar cuma beberapa ratus meter dari sumah saya > > sedangkan dua supermarket lain tidak lebih dari satu kilometer setengah > > dari rumah saya. > > > > Sedangkan pasar tempat beli ikan segar juga nggak sampai setengah kilometer. > > > > Dan saya sudah sejak masih mahasiswa di Paris berusaha menunjukkan rasa > > prihatin saya terhadap penderitaan orang Palestina. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > wrote: > > > > > > sebelum berbicara tentang palestina plik . . . > > > kecerdasan manusia diantaranya namun tak terbatas pada ada atau tidak > > > adanya makanan di kulkas anda plik . . . > > > > > > persediaan kentang di kulkas ada bwrapa biji lagi plik? > > > apakah cerdas jika hanya untuk seonggok babi kecap aja mosti nunggu dulu > > > duit tunjangan gembel plik? > > > > > > orang kayak giru cerdas apa dungu plik ? > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Renungkan yang saya tulis Pinpin, bila kapasitas otak anda bisa > > > > menangkap apa yang saya katakan. > > > > > > > > Penyelesaian masaalah Palestina itu, selain akan mengakhiri > > > > penderitraan orang Palestina yang berlarut-larut itu akan banyak > > > > pengaruhnya terhadap fikiran orang Islam yang dungu-dungu kayak anjing > > > > itu. > > > > > > > > Selanjutnya: tinggalkanlah kebiasaan buruk orang Islam yang suka > > > > menyebar dusta dan fitnah.. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > yang cakep itu plik . . . kalau elo sudah bisa mandiri. . . nddak > > > > > tergantung tunjangan gembel. > > > > > > > > > > yang cakep itu plik . . . kalau elo sudah mampu beli babi kecap > > > > > kapanpun elo mau, bukan mosti nunggu dulu dapat jatah gembel, baru > > > > > bisa mamam babi. > > > > > > > > > > yang cakep itu plik . . . elo bisa hidup dan produktif menghasilkan > > > > > duit. bukan buat siapa siapa, tapi paling tidak buat diri elo > > > > > sendiri. agar elo tidak hidup sebagai sampah masyarakat. beban bagi > > > > > negara, dan narik nafas tiap detik tanpa memberi manfaat apapun . . . > > > > > sesikitpun. . . buat manusia manusia yanf berada di sekeliling elo. > > > > > > > > > > sebelum berbicara besar dan mikirin negara orang, apanan lebih baik > > > > > elo bikin apa kek. . . kerja apa kek. . . biar elo bisa menjadi orang > > > > > tua yang mandiri. bukan beban negara. > > > > > > > > > > gimana bisa atuh elo ngasih apa yang tidak elo punya. apanan kalau > > > > > elo punya duit mah, paling nddak apan elo bisa ngirim alex aan pulsa > > > > > agar doaki bisa sms an dari penjara sama elo. bukan cuma tereak " aku > > > > > dukung dari jauh! " > > > > > > > > > > ah. . . dasar gembel lu ah! > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cakep... > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalau Obama menurutkan langkah Hollande ini maka akan makin cepat > > > > > > perdamaian bisa dicapai di Timur Tengah > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > France to support Palestinian United Nations status bid > > > > > > By FRANCE 24 the 27/11/2012 - 15:44 > > > > > > > > > > > > French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said on Tuesday that France > > > > > > will vote in favour of the Palestinian Authority's bid for > > > > > > Palestine to be granted UN "non-member observer status" at the > > > > > > General Assembly later this week. > > > > > > > > > > > > France said on Tuesday it would vote in favour of Palestinian > > > > > > "non-member observer" status at the United Nations, boosting > > > > > > Palestinian efforts to secure greater international recognition. > > > > > > > > > > > > French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius told the country's National > > > > > > Assembly that Paris would vote "yes" in this week's vote on a call > > > > > > for "non-member observer state status" for the Palestinians. Even > > > > > > with non-member status, however, a Palestinian state would still > > > > > > not be a full member of the UN General Assembly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fabius told MPs, "We've known for years France's constant position > > > > > > is to recognise the Palestinian state." > > > > > > > > > > > > Popular move in French Parliament > > > > > > > > > > > > The foreign minister's statement was greeted by a round of applause > > > > > > in France's lower house, the National Assembly. > > > > > > > > > > > > France, a permanent member of the UN Security Council, is the first > > > > > > major European power to voice its approval of the Palestinian move. > > > > > > > > > > > > Under former President Nicolas Sarkozy, France had promised to > > > > > > support the Palestinian quest for upgraded status. Paris also broke > > > > > > with its closest allies last year when it voted in favour of giving > > > > > > the Palestinians full membership of the UN's cultural agency > > > > > > UNESCO. However, shortly after the UNESCO vote, France announced > > > > > > that it would abstain in a vote on a Palestinian request for full > > > > > > membership status of the United Nations, citing US opposition to > > > > > > the resolution. > > > > > > > > > > > > The proposal for non-member observer status would, however, > > > > > > implicitly recognise Palestinian statehood. It could also grant it > > > > > > access to bodies such as the International Criminal Court in The > > > > > > Hague, where the Palestinians could file complaints against Israel. > > > > > > > > > > > > Abbas "confident" > > > > > > > > > > > > The leader of the Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas said on > > > > > > Sunday that he was "confident" ahead of the new application. > > > > > > > > > > > > "We are going to the UN fully confident in our steps. We will have > > > > > > our rights because you are with us," he told a crowd of around > > > > > > 1,000 people demonstrating in support of the bid. > > > > > > > > > > > > "We ask for a just peace, which is agreed on by the international > > > > > > community which will give us our state with east Jerusalem as its > > > > > > capital. Without that, there is no hope at all," he said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Abbas said the attempt to secure upgraded status was backed by many > > > > > > UN member states and by all the Palestinian political factions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Israel and Washington both oppose the new bid for enhanced UN > > > > > > status for the Palestinians, but the bid is expected to easily win > > > > > > the required majority at the General Assembly. > > > > > > > > > > > > FRANCE 24's International Affairs Editor Douglas Herbert said, > > > > > > "This is a move that is going to anger the US and it is going to > > > > > > anger Israel. It definitely puts France very firmly on the side of > > > > > > Abbas at a time when he was looking for a strong voice of support > > > > > > from a Western power." > > > > > > > > > > > > Europe is divided over the issue. Switzerland and Portugal have > > > > > > said they will vote for the measure, but Germany is among the > > > > > > countries that are opposed to the Palestinian Territories bid. > > > > > > Britain's position remains unclear with its UN ambassador Mark > > > > > > Lyall Grant saying on Tuesday that Britain would decide "in due > > > > > > time" how to vote on this week's resolution. > > > > > > > > > > > > (FRANCE 24 with wires) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Source URL: > > > > > > http://www.france24.com/en/20121127-france-palestine-territories-israel-un-united-nations-status-abbas-fabius > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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