Ya, orang Nasrani dari berbagai gereja atau nominasi bisa saja
punya pendapat yang saling berbeda.
Dan juga debat keras.
Mereka telah biasa berdebat.
Tapi berbunuhan karena beda pendapat tidak sering (lagi) kita
dengar.
Dulu, di zaman kegelapan, sih sering, tapi sekarang boleh
dibilang tidak ada.
Budaya Nasrani itu manusiawi.
Orang Islam sebaliknya masih sering saling berbunuhan atau
saling menindas bila mereka berbeda pendapat.
Lihat apa yagn terjadi dengan ahli tasawuf Sudan
Muh.taha: digantung.
Salman Rushdie kita tahu dapat fatwa mati dari Khomeini...
Taslimah Nasrin lari dari Bengladesh, Abu Zaid lari dari Mesir, hanya
karena mereka punya pendapat berbeda dari orang Islam yang lain disana.
Dan orang Ahmadiyah dipersekusi di Pakistan, Indonesia,
Bengladesh dll.
Saya belum bicara tentang saling berbunhan antara orang Islam
dimana-mana...
Budaya Islam itu biadab.
On 12 Nov 05, at 4:40, amrace69 wrote:
> He..he..he...
> si kuthuk mau ngadu domba....
> maaf aja...mau Katholik mau Advent mau Protestan kek....yg pasti kami
> dalam satu IMAN....dan TIDAK SALING BANTAI KAYAK ISLAM.
>
> THINK !
>
>
> --- In islamkristen@yahoogroups.com, "jj_bluekuthuk"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Menurut Advent dan Protestan :
> >
> > KATOLIK ADALAH AJARAN SPIRITISME ANTI KRISTUS
> >
> >
> >
> > Pemikiran orang-orang Advent dalam menyikapi Alkitab, perlu
> > diacungkan jempol karena mereka lebih kritis ketika mengimani
> Alkitab
> > sebagai sumber ajaran agamanya. Orang Advent beranggapan bahwa
> > KATOLIK adalah ajaran yang tidak saja ANTI KRISTUS, tetapi juga
> > merupakan agama Spiritisme primitif
> >
> >
> >
> > Spiritisme primitif biasa dipraktekkan dalam agama-agama suku,
> sebab
> > dalam mengarungi hidup yang penuh tantangan dimana manusia-
> manusia
> > primitif bergantung pada nasehat para orang tua, maka ketika orang-
> > orang tua itu meninggal, mereka berusaha dengan segala cara untuk
> > tetap mencari hubungan dengan nenek moyang yang telah meninggal
> itu.
> > Hubungan itu dicari dengan misalnya melakukan upacara-upacara
> > menyembah pohon, gunung, tempat suci, patung salib, atau melalui
> > pertolongan dukun-dukun dan pendeta-pendeta sebagai medium
> > (perantara). Hubungan juga biasa dilakukan di kuburan atau rumah-
> > rumah tertentu, dan juga dilakukan pada hari-hari tertentu.
> >
> >
> >
> > Spiritisme primitif ini sejalan dengan kepercayaan 'Animisme'
> (anima
> > = roh) yang mempercayai bahwa bila seseorang meninggal dunia maka
> > rohnya akan mengembara dan menjadi Dewa/Tuhan tetapi masih bisa
> > berhubungan dengan manusia baik untuk memberi kesaktian,
> pertolongan
> > atau nasehat, dan pengampunan dosa.
> >
> >
> >
> > Untuk lebih mengenal mengenai ajaran katolik yang merupakan ajaran
> > spritisme primitive dimana sebenarnya ajaran tersebut adalah
> ajaran
> > anti kristus, dapat kita lihat pada situ berikut :
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.remnantofgod.org/flash/acssmenu.html
> >
> >
> >
> > The Roman Catholic church has always 'claimed' to be
> walking "with"
> > Christ. Just as Judas "kissed" Christ, so has Rome "kissed" His
> > Truth. They "softly and gently" send their wolves forward wearing
> the
> > clothing of a little lamb so as to gentle draw the masses away
> from
> > Christ. They betray Christ as soft as the kiss of JUDAS!
> >
> >
> >
> > John Wycliffe
> >
> > "When the western church was divided for about 40 years between
> two
> > rival popes, one in Rome and the other in Avigon, France, each
> pope
> > called the other pope antichrist - and John Wycliffe is reputed to
> > have regarded them as both being right: "two halves of Antichrist,
> > making up the perfect Man of Sin between them." –Ibid
> >
> >
> >
> > Martin Luther (Lutheran)
> >
> > "We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the
> > true and real Antichrist...personally I declare that I owe the
> Pope
> > no other obedience than that to Antichrist." (Aug. 18, 1520)
> Taken
> > from The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, Vol. 2., pg. 121 by
> Froom.
> > (In response to a papal bull [official decree]): "I despise and
> > attack it, as impious, false... It is Christ Himself who is
> condemned
> > therein... I rejoice in having to bear such ills for the best of
> > causes. Already I feel greater liberty in my heart; for at last I
> > know that the pope is antichrist, and that his throne is that of
> > Satan himself." --D'Aubigné, b.6, ch. 9.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cotton Mather (Congregational Theologian)
> >
> > "The oracles of God foretold the rising of an Antichrist in the
> > Christian Church: and in the Pope of Rome, all the characteristics
> of
> > that Antichrist are so marvelously answered that if any who read
> the
> > Scriptures do not see it, there is a marvelous blindness upon
> them."
> > Taken from The Fall of Babylon by Cotton Mather in Froom's book,
> The
> > Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, Vol. 3, pg. 113.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ellen G. White: Seven Day Adventists
> >
> > "This compromise between paganism and Christianity resulted in the
> > development of "the man of sin" foretold in prophecy as opposing
> and
> > exalting himself above God. That gigantic system of false religion
> is
> > a masterpiece of Satan's power--a monument of his efforts to seat
> > himself upon the throne to rule the earth according to his will.
> >
> >
> >
> > John Calvin (Presbyterian)
> >
> > "Some persons think us too severe and censorious when we call the
> > Roman pontiff Antichrist. But those who are of this opinion do not
> > consider that they bring the same charge of presumption against
> Paul
> > himself, after whom we speak and whose language we adopt... I
> shall
> > briefly show that (Paul's words in II Thess. 2) are not capable of
> > any other interpretation than that which applies them to the
> > Papacy." Taken from Institutes by John Calvin.
> >
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