wah nih trio kwek2 memang punya kesulitan untuk berpikir logis.
gw tidak setuju dengan atheist yg bilang tidak ada itu Tuhan.
bukan berarti gw tidak setuju dengan semua pendapat mereka. 
Tidak ada satupun manusia dibumi ini yg bisa setuju 100% dengan SEMUA pendapat 
orang lain. 

memang kalo di pesantren itu tidak ada tawar menawar, sekali kafir semua yg 
dikatakan mereka itu salah walaupun benar sekali.

dan dikasus ini memang rasanya semua non islam setuju kalo islam memang agama 
preman.  


--- In [email protected], "ajeg"  wrote:
>
> 
> Hahaha... 
> 
> Tololnian si penginjil yang menghina ateis mendadak 
> minta tolong ateis untuk nopang kibulannya. 
> 
> Sementara uplik si ateis gila yang pengen bener diajak 
> ngobrol tiba-tiba merasa dapat pencerahan dari pengikut 
> Paulus. 
> 
> Ketololan yang bener-bener menghibur. 
> 
> 
> --- "johny_indon"  wrote:
> 
> > dan tiba2 elu mendadak setuju dgn yg dikatakan seorang atheist 
> > hanya untuk menolak fakta bahwa preman di indonesia hampir semuanya 
> > seiman sama elu.
> > setelah sebelumnya lu bilang atheist itu... apa tuh... ngga ada 
> > harapan? 
> > dan waktu ada atheist yg bilang bahwa private statement hitler itu 
> > meragukan, lu buru2 bilang atheist itu ngga mutu lah, bego lah, apa 
> > lah.
> > 
> > terus deh pamerin semua isi dengkul lu di sini biar semua tau 
> > segoblok apa elu.
> > 
> > dasar penginjil tolol.
> > 
> > --- "Nub"  wrote:
> >
> > > memang ga perlu rocket science jon, cuma butuh mata melek aja 
> > > liat dunia nyata. 
> > > dan anehnya, pendapat gw yg bilang islam itu jauh lebih sering 
> > > menggunakan kekerasan dibanding kristen atau agama lain, bukan 
> > > cuma gw dan orang kristen yg bilang. bahkan atheist yg benci 
> > > dengan ajaran kristen pun setuju dengan perkataan gw. 
> > > 
> > > http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/on-the-freedom-to-offend-an-imaginary-god
> > > 
> > > artikel sepenuhnya sangat bagus buat buka wawasan lu. ini tulisan 
> > > bukan dari orang kristen, tapi seorang atheist terkenal yg 
> > > dijuluki salah seorang dari 'the four horsemen'.
> > > 
> > > gw kutip sebagian 
> > > 
> > > The contagion of moral cowardice followed its usual course, 
> > > wherein liberal journalists and pundits began to reconsider our 
> > > most basic freedoms in light of the sadomasochistic fury known as 
> > > "religious sensitivity" among Muslims. Contributors to The New 
> > > York Times and NPR spoke of the need to find a balance between 
> > > free speech and freedom of religion—as though the latter could 
> > > possibly be infringed by a YouTube video. As predictable as 
> > > Muslim bullying has become, the moral confusion of secular 
> > > liberals appears to be part of the same clockwork.
> > > 
> > > Consider what is actually happening: Some percentage of the 
> > > world's Muslims—Five percent? Fifteen? Fifty? It's not yet 
> > > clear—is demanding that all non-Muslims conform to the strictures 
> > > of Islamic law. And where they do not immediately resort to 
> > > violence in their protests, they threaten it. Carrying a sign 
> > > that reads "Behead Those Who Insult the Prophet" may still count 
> > > as an example of peaceful protest, but it is also an assurance 
> > > that infidel blood would be shed if the imbecile holding the 
> > > placard only had more power. This grotesque promise is, of 
> > > course, fulfilled in nearly every Muslim society. To make a film 
> > > like "Innocence of Muslims" anywhere in the Middle East would be 
> > > as sure a method of suicide as the laws of physics allow.
> > > 
> > > What exactly was in the film? Who made it? What were their 
> > > motives? Was Muhammad really depicted? Was that a Qur'an burning, 
> > > or some other book? Questions of this kind are obscene. Here is 
> > > where the line must be drawn and defended without apology: We are 
> > > free to burn the Qur'an or any other book, and to criticize 
> > > Muhammad or any other human being. Let no one forget it.
> > > 
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > islam memang diajari kekerasan dari kecil. 
> > > http://www.news.com.au/national/probe-into-boy-holding-beheading-sign/story-fncynjr2-1226475238920
> > > 
> > > anak segitu kecil aja udah diajarin teriak2 penggal penggal.
> > > jadi kalo lu mau tanya sapa lebih banyak ya jelas agama lu lah, 
> > > no competition here.
> > > lah semua pemeluk agama lu itu setuju dengan kekerasan kok. hehe
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- "johny_indon"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > kalau mau ngitung jumlah penjahat berdasarkan agamanya, ya 
> > > > jelaslah agama elu pasti juaranya. ngga perlu rocket science 
> > > > buat membuktikan itu.
> > > > 
> > > > di indonesia aja jumlah orang kresten yg jadi penjahat lebih 
> > > > banyak (secara persentase).
> > > > di meksiko bahkan orang kresten punya orang suci di kalangan 
> > > > penjahat, terutama pengedar narkoba.
> > > > namanya jesus malverde.
> > > > di natgeo ada tayangan khusus ttg jesus yg satu ini.
> > > > 
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/352831
> > > > 
> > > > --- "Nub"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > kalo soal lebih banyak siapa preman (atau generalnya, pelaku 
> > > > > kekerrasan) sih bisa diperdebatkan. bahkan atheist kaya sam 
> > > > > harris pun setuju kalau islam itu JAUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH lebih 
> > > > > banyak melakukan kekerasan pada manusia dibanding kristen.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "...because the truth is that Islam is quite a bit scarier
> > > > > and more culpable for needless human misery, than 
> > > > > Christianity has been for a very, very long time. And the 
> > > > > world must wake up to this fact. Muslims themselves must wake 
> > > > > up to this fact. And they can…."
> > > > > 
> > > >
>




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