Manusia purba demen jawaban basi -----Original Message----- From: "johny_indon" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:07:26 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: [proletar] Re: Gabriella NIPU lagi NIPU lagi (johny-indon mentally retarded..
maksudnya apa ngasih link jadul itu plik? mau gede2an gundu? gua bawa berita thn 2012, lu bawa berita basi thn 2007. dunia ini berubah tiap detik, tolol. ngga stagnan kayak nasib elu. --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > johny-indon itu mentally retarded dan kupingnya butek.. > > Entah sudah berapa kali saya sampaikan.. > > > http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-09-10-ex-muslims-europe_N.htm > > > --- In [email protected], "johny_indon" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > tau kenapa orang ngga peduli kalo kresten di olok2? > > itu karena yg peduli sama agama purba itu udah hampir ngga ada lagi. > > di seluruh eropa, barat, timur, utara, gereja pada kosong melompong. > > mereka semakin cerdas, dan semakin nyadar dgn apa yg selama ini mereka > > sembah. > > > > waktu di jerman gua masuk gereja gede banget, isinya jemaat ngga lebih > > dari 10 orang. kakek nenek semua. > > turis yg di dalem gereja, gua diantaranya, jumlahnya 3x lipat jemaatnya. > > di italy, belanda, kondisinya podo wae. semua gereja dijadiin objek turis. > > waktu di skandinavia dan swiss gua malah nyaris ngga liat gereja. > > > > cuman penginjil macem elu aja yg masih betah nyembah orang, yg orang > > eropa sendiri udah nyadar kalo itu cuman tindakan idiot. > > > > "A study by multi-faith group Faith Matters found the number of Muslim > > converts in Britain has now passed 100,000, doubling in ten years." > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223866/Islam-real-love-just-lust-The-party-girl-whos-embraced-new-life-Muslim-convert.html > > > > 'Islam is about real love, not just lust': The party girl who's embraced a > > new life as a Muslim convert > > By NAZIA PARVEEN > > > > PUBLISHED: 23:01 GMT, 26 October 2012 | UPDATED: 23:02 GMT, 26 October 2012 > > > > Comments (757) > > Share > > > > Her conversion from Ibiza party girl to hijab-wearing Muslim in barely > > three months may well raise a few eyebrows and she admits that her > > friends probably think it's another one of her fads. > > > > But trainee teacher Heather Matthews, 27, says Islam has brought her `love > > and happiness' that she never found in her old `shallow' lifestyle. > > > > Mrs Matthews, a mother of two, converted to the faith four weeks ago two > > months after returning from a holiday in Ibiza. And she says that the > > photographs of the `old her' taken on that trip show all that is wrong with > > Western images of beauty. > > > > > > New faith: Heather Matthews, with daughters Ellah, 5, and Halle, 2, > > converted to Islam four weeks ago > > > > She said: `I thought I needed to act and dress in a certain way to feel > > good about myself. I see girls now and think about what image they are > > portraying to other people, especially men. > > > > `It is about self-respect. If you dress and act in a certain way, rightly > > or wrongly, you'll be treated in a certain way. > > > > `Islam has taught me about real love, not false passion and lust. I can > > even see the logic in arranged marriage.' > > > > > > More... > > The billionaire who tamed the catwalk wildcat: How Naomi Campbell has put > > her cocaine, phone-flinging days well behind her > > The amputee cheerleader proving 'anything is possible' with her impeccable > > moves and prosthetic leg > > A study by multi-faith group Faith Matters found the number of Muslim > > converts in Britain has now passed 100,000, doubling in ten years. > > > > The report estimated nearly two-thirds of the new converts were women, with > > an average age of 27 like Mrs Matthews. > > > > Her path to conversion began when she tried to convince her ex-husband > > Jerrome, himself a Muslim convert, that the religion was wrong. She was > > `very suspicious' of the faith, and began reading up on it to support her > > arguments. > > > > Although they separated last year, she continued to learn about Islam and > > identified with it more and more. Then, four weeks ago, she completed the > > `revert' process. She said: `I underwent the `Shahadah' ceremony of > > conversion to Islam by repeating a declaration of faith in front of the > > Imam at my local multi-faith centre. > > > > `I had several Muslim sisters with me and they bought me a hijab and > > Islamic books to celebrate. It was wonderful.' > > > > > > Before Islam: This picture of Heather was taken earlier this year on the > > party island of Ibiza, which she now says shows everything that is wrong > > about Western beauty > > > > But she admits that her friends have been shocked at her conversion to a > > religion which is often seen as being oppressive towards women. > > > > `People are probably thinking "Oh, it is just another one of Heather's > > fads". It isn't. It is what I've been searching for during the times I've > > been filling my life with instant gratification,' she said. > > > > Mrs Matthews, from Preston, has also had a cautious reaction from her > > family. But it is the response from passers-by that surprised her the most > > especially the effect of her headscarf. > > > > `No men try to chat me up. It is an idiot repellent. When I'm wearing the > > headscarf I can smile at people without them thinking it is a sexual > > advance,' she said. > > > > `I definitely agree with Islam's principles of not having sex with someone > > you're not married to and to save your beauty for your husband. So I think > > my next partner would need to be a practising Muslim to understand. > > > > `It is easy for me to say this now, with hindsight, having made the > > mistakes, but I think I would have been better off with partners who my > > parents thought were suitable, learning to love them through friendship > > first.' Mrs Matthews has given up alcohol, sticks to a halal diet and plans > > to fast during Ramadan. She has an English-language Koran which she reads > > daily, and wants to learn Arabic so that she can recite prayers five times > > a day. > > > > But she will not be forcing Islam on to her daughters Ellah, five, and > > two-year-old Halle from her marriage to Jerrome. > > > > `People think I must be oppressed but I'm a strong, confident and free > > woman,' she said. `I know I'm one of the most unlikely people to revert to > > Islam. > > > > `It astounds me. But I've done it for love and happiness and it has > > completely changed my life. > > > > --- In [email protected], "Nub" wrote: > > > > > > banyak film yg mengolok2 kristen. banyak orang membakar alkitab. tapi > > > mereka yg melakukan semua itu tidak perlu takut akan dibunuh orang > > > kristen. > > > > > > Beda dengan kalo kita mengkritik islam didunia nyata. bikin film spt > > > innocence of muslims ditimur tengah atau indonesia itu sama dengan minta > > > mati. dibanyak negara terjadi kerusuhan gara2 satu film doang. > > > anak2 kecil teriak 'bunuh, penggal'. kalo bukan agama preman apa dong > > > ini? ga usah di timur tengah, di negara2 kaya di australia aja mereka > > > langsung bikin rusuh. > > > ini kenyataannya jon. mereka itu didukung teologi islam mainstream. lu > > > aja islam liberal kalo lu menjalankan kasih, kaya si pinpin islam > > > protestan hehe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Nub" wrote: > > > > > > > > dan si jon ternyata malu mengakui bahwa islam agamanya memang > > > > mengajarkan kekerasan. memang sih gw juga malu kalo jadi islam kaya lu > > > > jon. > > > > > > > > preman diindonesia hampir semuanya kristen? LOLOLOLOLOLOL > > > > jumlah pengikut hercules ada berapa? jon kei? preman batak? > > > > masih ga sampe 1% dari jumlah seluruh umat islam indonesia yg semuanya > > > > preman/penganut kekerasan. mereka terkenal ya karna emang mereka > > > > minoritas. kalo preman islam ga ada yg terkenal2 bgt, karna memang > > > > semuanya preman LOLOLOLOLOL > > > > > > > > tetep masih lebih banyak lu jon haha > > > > > > > > lu mau bahas hitler kristen apa bukan lagi? > > > > dah gw bilang kalo ngomong sejarah ngomong yg bener. sejarahwan setuju > > > > kalo hitler bukan kristen. > > > > sama dengan sejarahwan dan orang yg melek skrg setuju kalo islam memang > > > > penyebaran mula2nya melalui pedang dan hingga skrg pun masih pake > > > > pedang(dan bom LOLOLOL) > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "johny_indon" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan tiba2 elu mendadak setuju dgn yg dikatakan seorang atheist hanya > > > > > untuk menolak fakta bahwa preman di indonesia hampir semuanya seiman > > > > > sama elu. > > > > > setelah sebelumnya lu bilang atheist itu... apa tuh... ngga ada > > > > > harapan? > > > > > dan waktu ada atheist yg bilang bahwa private statement hitler itu > > > > > meragukan, lu buru2 bilang atheist itu ngga mutu lah, bego lah, apa > > > > > lah. > > > > > > > > > > terus deh pamerin semua isi dengkul lu di sini biar semua tau > > > > > segoblok apa elu. > > > > > > > > > > dasar penginjil tolol. > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Nub" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > memang ga perlu rocket science jon, cuma butuh mata melek aja liat > > > > > > dunia nyata. > > > > > > dan anehnya, pendapat gw yg bilang islam itu jauh lebih sering > > > > > > menggunakan kekerasan dibanding kristen atau agama lain, bukan cuma > > > > > > gw dan orang kristen yg bilang. bahkan atheist yg benci dengan > > > > > > ajaran kristen pun setuju dengan perkataan gw. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/on-the-freedom-to-offend-an-imaginary-god > > > > > > > > > > > > artikel sepenuhnya sangat bagus buat buka wawasan lu. ini tulisan > > > > > > bukan dari orang kristen, tapi seorang atheist terkenal yg dijuluki > > > > > > salah seorang dari 'the four horsemen'. > > > > > > > > > > > > gw kutip sebagian > > > > > > > > > > > > The contagion of moral cowardice followed its usual course, wherein > > > > > > liberal journalists and pundits began to reconsider our most basic > > > > > > freedoms in light of the sadomasochistic fury known as "religious > > > > > > sensitivity" among Muslims. Contributors to The New York Times and > > > > > > NPR spoke of the need to find a balance between free speech and > > > > > > freedom of religionas though the latter could possibly be > > > > > > infringed by a YouTube video. As predictable as Muslim bullying has > > > > > > become, the moral confusion of secular liberals appears to be part > > > > > > of the same clockwork. > > > > > > > > > > > > Consider what is actually happening: Some percentage of the world's > > > > > > MuslimsFive percent? Fifteen? Fifty? It's not yet clearis > > > > > > demanding that all non-Muslims conform to the strictures of Islamic > > > > > > law. And where they do not immediately resort to violence in their > > > > > > protests, they threaten it. Carrying a sign that reads "Behead > > > > > > Those Who Insult the Prophet" may still count as an example of > > > > > > peaceful protest, but it is also an assurance that infidel blood > > > > > > would be shed if the imbecile holding the placard only had more > > > > > > power. This grotesque promise is, of course, fulfilled in nearly > > > > > > every Muslim society. To make a film like "Innocence of Muslims" > > > > > > anywhere in the Middle East would be as sure a method of suicide as > > > > > > the laws of physics allow. > > > > > > > > > > > > What exactly was in the film? Who made it? What were their motives? > > > > > > Was Muhammad really depicted? Was that a Qur'an burning, or some > > > > > > other book? Questions of this kind are obscene. Here is where the > > > > > > line must be drawn and defended without apology: We are free to > > > > > > burn the Qur'an or any other book, and to criticize Muhammad or any > > > > > > other human being. Let no one forget it. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > islam memang diajari kekerasan dari kecil. > > > > > > http://www.news.com.au/national/probe-into-boy-holding-beheading-sign/story-fncynjr2-1226475238920 > > > > > > > > > > > > anak segitu kecil aja udah diajarin teriak2 penggal penggal. > > > > > > jadi kalo lu mau tanya sapa lebih banyak ya jelas agama lu lah, no > > > > > > competition here. > > > > > > lah semua pemeluk agama lu itu setuju dengan kekerasan kok. hehe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "johny_indon" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kalau mau ngitung jumlah penjahat berdasarkan agamanya, ya > > > > > > > jelaslah agama elu pasti juaranya. ngga perlu rocket science buat > > > > > > > membuktikan itu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > di indonesia aja jumlah orang kresten yg jadi penjahat lebih > > > > > > > banyak (secara persentase). > > > > > > > di meksiko bahkan orang kresten punya orang suci di kalangan > > > > > > > penjahat, > > > > > > > terutama pengedar narkoba. > > > > > > > namanya jesus malverde. > > > > > > > di natgeo ada tayangan khusus ttg jesus yg satu ini. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/352831 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Nub" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kalo soal lebih banyak siapa preman (atau generalnya, pelaku > > > > > > > > kekerrasan) sih bisa diperdebatkan. bahkan atheist kaya sam > > > > > > > > harris pun setuju kalau islam itu JAUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH lebih > > > > > > > > banyak melakukan kekerasan pada manusia dibanding kristen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...because the truth is that Islam is quite a bit scarier and > > > > > > > > more culpable for needless human misery, than Christianity has > > > > > > > > been for a very, very long time. And the world must wake up to > > > > > > > > this fact. Muslims themselves must wake up to this fact. And > > > > > > > > they can ." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan justru perbedaan utamanya antara pelaku kekerasan dalam > > > > > > > > kristen dan islam itu ini: > > > > > > > > dalam kristen, mereka yang melakukan kekerasan itu melanggar > > > > > > > > ajaran Yesus. > > > > > > > > Sedang dalam islam, justru banyak ayat quran yang menganjurkan > > > > > > > > kekerasan dan dicontohkan langsung oleh muhammad. kekerasan > > > > > > > > dalam islam itu didukung teologi mainstream islam. makanya > > > > > > > > banyak orang berjihad, bom bunuh diri, bom dan bakar gereja, > > > > > > > > menghalalkan darah ahmadiah, memperkosa pembantu yg dianggap > > > > > > > > budak, merusak tempat2 hiburan dll > > > > > > > > mereka semua yg melakukan itu bertindak atas dasar ajaran islam > > > > > > > > di quran dan kehidupan muhammad. > > > > > > > > kalo lu tanya john kei atau herkules atau preman2 meksiko yg lu > > > > > > > > bilang kristen, apakah mereka sedang menuruti perintah Yesus > > > > > > > > justru jawabannya tidak. > > > > > > > > ga ada sama sekali, secuil pun ajaran Yesus dan murid2nya yg > > > > > > > > menganjurkan kekerasan. > > > > > > > > Lu tanya FPI, alqaeda dll mereka bakal kutip seabrek2 ayat > > > > > > > > quran dan malah bisa2 lu dianggap menghujat kalo ga percaya itu > > > > > > > > ajaran islam. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "johny_indon" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh perbedaannya bukan itu. > > > > > > > > > perbedaannya adalah, preman kresten jauh lebih banyak > > > > > > > > > daripada preman muslim, bahkan di negara yg mayoritas muslim > > > > > > > > > kayak indonesia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > di mana2 di indonesia, yg jadi preman kalo bukan orang ambon, > > > > > > > > > papua, > > > > > > > > > flores, ya batak. > > > > > > > > > preman orang betawi atau orang garut memang ada, tapi > > > > > > > > > jumlahnya > > > > > > > > > kalah jauh dgn preman2 yg gua sebut di atas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan ini fakta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Nub" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tanah abang itu yang megang orang betawi, herkules dah > > > > > > > > > > hengkang lebih dari 15 tahun. lu abg ingusan ga usah ikut > > > > > > > > > > campur orang dewasa lagi ngomong, main gundu aja lu jeg > > > > > > > > > > dulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baik di islam maupun kristen banyak preman. > > > > > > > > > > bedanya, kalo di kristen mereka itu melanggar ajaran Yesus. > > > > > > > > > > sedangkan di islam, mereka justru didukung teologi > > > > > > > > > > mainstream islam dan mengikuti contoh muhammad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "ajeg" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yang di Yathrib begitu jelas lu sebut agamanya > > > > > > > > > > > tapi yang Tanah Abang dll nggak lu sebut agamanya. > > > > > > > > > > > Berarti tukang palak yang di Tanah Abang dll itu > > > > > > > > > > > agamanya bukan Islam. Kalo mereka agamanya Islam > > > > > > > > > > > mustahil lu lupa untuk bolak-balik nyebut agamanya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Udah sebegitu parahnyakah kebegoan lu sampe nggak > > > > > > > > > > > ngerti tulisan sendiri? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Gabriella Rantau wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nah, rupanya anda ngidap curigation. Dlm posting aku > > > > > > > > > > > > tidak ku > > > > > > > > > > > > sebutkan agama dari pemalak di Pasar Tanah Abang, di > > > > > > > > > > > > warung2 > > > > > > > > > > > > termasuk Warteg dan di New York dan bahkan di Tokyo. > > > > > > > > > > > > Aku cuman > > > > > > > > > > > > bilang bhw Jizya itu tidak berbeda dengan pemalakan, > > > > > > > > > > > > extortion, > > > > > > > > > > > > protection money yg para pengusaha di banyak negara > > > > > > > > > > > > dipaksa untuk > > > > > > > > > > > > membayarnya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ajeg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Si geboy nggak suka tuh dikasih liat belek di > > > > > > > > > > > > > matanya sendiri kayak gini. Dia maunya nonton tokai > > > > > > > > > > > > > di pantat onta nun di Arab jaman batu sana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalo si bleki, udah tau kan dia senantiasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > mendambakan > > > > > > > > > > > > > pantat siapa nun jauh di sana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "johny_indon" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 preman tukang palak di indonesia yg terkenal itu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hercules, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > john kei dan olo panggabean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hercules sekarang jadi donatur lembaga pendidikan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > santa maria. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hebat ngga tuh, lembaga pendidikan kresten > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dimodalin preman. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > john kei dipenjara gara2 membunuh pengusaha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > olo panggabean udah modar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ketiganya muslim ya boy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Gabriella Rantau wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aku yg tidak tinggal di Jkt pun tahu kenyataan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhw preman2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pasar Tanah Abang itu melakukan extortion thdp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > semua pemilik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toko di sana. SEkarang tanya pemilik warung2 di > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sepanjang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jalan2 strategis di Jakarta, semuanya without > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exception harus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > setor kpd oknum2 yg dilindungi oleh Polisi. Kalau > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tidak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > percaya, dekati beberapa pemilik toko dan warung > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan tanyakan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > berapa tarif perlindungan ini sekarang. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Para Ansor dan Hawariyun di Yathrib memulai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kebiasan terkutuk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ini. Sejak Allah SWT menurunkan ayat bhw: #1 Umat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahudi itu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > keturunan babi dan kera dan kalau mereka tidak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mau menerima > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Islam artinya menerima Muhammad ibn Abdullah) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sebagai nabi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mereka maka umat Yahaudi itu halal diperas, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dirampok, dibunuh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan perempuannya diperkosa! #2 Ayat dan izin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > memalak umat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahudi di Yathrib itu diturunkan sbg balasan thdp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'penghinaan' mereka thdp Nabi Junjungan. Ingat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > para imam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahudi berkata: "Baiklah ngana ngaku sbg nabi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > baru, buatlah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mujizat spt yg dibuat nabi2 terdahulu!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nabi Junjungan (hampir pingsan dan berfikir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bajingan orang2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahudi ini) tiba2 menerima wahyu dari Allah SWT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yg berisikan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pencerahan: "Mujizat itu hanya ada pada Allah (& > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isa Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Masih). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mulai hari itu ahlul kitab khususnya umat Yahudi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > menjadi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sasaran palakan, extortion, penindasan dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tindak2 immoral > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lainnya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: itemabu2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nabi dan auloh itu emang sama2 tukang palak spt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > preman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pasar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roman Proteus pt_kasoet@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coba tunjukkan bukti siapa yg nerima setoran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dr pedagang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tanah abang? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blok mana? Dan brp jumlah palakan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Berak mulu mulutnya neh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Gabriella Rantau gkrantau@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Memang kebiasaan memalak non-Muslim sudah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lama > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dipraktikkan di masyarakat Islami. Secaraa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sistematik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khalifa Omar mencetuskan gagasan brilliant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > memajak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-Muslim dengan poll ax yg dikenal dengan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nama JIZYA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ini tidak beda dengan pungutan oleh Mafioso > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > di kota2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > besar di US, Italy dan sebagainya. Ini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > setali tiga uang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dengan pungutan yg dikumpulkan oleh Yakuza > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > di Jepang. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ini sama juga dengan uang perlindungan yg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dikenakan kpd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > para pedagang di Pasar Tanah Abag supaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toko mereka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tidak terbakar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: itemabu2 itemabu2@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tampang asli Islam, rampok dan tukang malak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/01/myjihad-in-egypt-muslim-group-threatens-christians-tells-them-to-pay-jizya.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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