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--- In [email protected], "rezameutia"  wrote:
>
> Tu die yang gw maksud karena situs sampah yang bau, makanya anjing2 pada 
> demen maen di sampah.
> 
> Abis, emang Kristen2 dogol bermental anjing demen banget makan taik sih.
> 
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> 
> --- In [email protected], Rahwana  wrote:
> >
> > situs faithfreedom dibilang website sampah karena ngomongin sampah (baca:
> > islam)....makanya yg punya sampah (orang islam) pada mencak2 kalo sampahnya
> > dikritik bau ....hwakakakakakak.......
> > 
> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:32 AM, rezameutia  wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Memang Kristen goblok kayak elo come and go di milis ini.
> > >
> > > Jadi, kutipan dari website sampah seperti faithfreedom, answering islam,
> > > itu mah barang basi disini. Buat Keristen dogol seperti elo, website itu
> > > merupakan barang baru, disini mah itu barang basi.
> > >
> > > Tapi, kan memang tipikal anjing Kristen seperti item, elo makanannya emang
> > > taik dan sampah, makanya gw sih nggak heran Kristen dogol seperti elo 
> > > kutip
> > > website sampah itu berkali-kali.
> > >
> > > Lo copas tulisan "Perang Salib adalah Perang Defensif", nanti kalo
> > > ditanggepin ama gw atau Johny, palingan omongan lo ngumpet dibalik nama
> > > sejarahwan Madden.
> > >
> > > Sama lah ketika membahas Hitler adalah Kristen yang taat, lo bukannya
> > > membahas pake data dan fakta, tapi lo malahan ngumpet dibalik nama 
> > > Bernard.
> > > Tetep aja muter2 bawa nama Bernard mulu.
> > >
> > > Orang Kristen goblok kayak elo dan item memang kapasitas otaknya terbatas
> > > cuman bisanya copas, lalu setelah itu muter2 kayak anjing. Nggak ada level
> > > kecerdasan intelektual yang bisa mendukung argumen yang dibawa.
> > >
> > > Abis, emang segitu sih kapasitas otak lo. Keliatan kok, Kristen dogol
> > > kayak elo memang sering copas website faithfreedom, answering islam, dan
> > > website sampah lainnya.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Nub" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > WOW, I actually read the whole thing. sangat bagus.
> > > >
> > > > gw kutip sebagian yg berhubungan dengan beberapa topik debat terakhir
> > > dimilis ini.
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > Muslimin ternyata tidak dapat melihat gajah didepan
> > > > mata, namun titik noda diseberang lautan mereka sangat
> > > > suka membesar2kan. Perang Salib terjadi 900 tahun yang
> > > > lalu (1095 A.D). Bagaimana dengan kejahatan Muslimin
> > > > yang terjadi dulu dan sekarang ? Apakah petinggi Sunni
> > > > ini juga meminta maaf bagi pembunuhan masal 9/11, atau
> > > > pembantaian di Madrid, Beslan dsb dsb ? Bagaimana
> > > > dengan invasi Eropa dan penjajahan Spanyol ? DImana
> > > > permintaan maaf Muslim ?
> > > >
> > > > Dunia barat tidak memiliki satu alasanpun untuk
> > > > meminta maaf kepada dunia Muslim. Thomas F. Madden,
> > > > associate professor dan ketua Department of History di
> > > > Universitas Saint Louis dan penulis "A Concise History
> > > > of the Crusades" mengatakan, "PERANG SALIB ADALAH
> > > > PERANG DEFENSIF."
> > > >
> > > > "Perang ini adalah tanggapan Barat yang terlambat atas
> > > > invasi Muslim terhadap dua-pertiga dunia Kristen," ia
> > > > tulis dalam kolum National Review."Pada permulaan abad
> > > > 7-10, saat kaum Arab sibuk memperluas kekuasaan dan
> > > > mencaplok negara2 sekelilingnya, Eropa sibuk membela
> > > > diri melawan invasi bangsa2 lain. Hanya dalam abad ke
> > > > 11 Eropa sanggup mencurahkan perhatian kepada orang2
> > > > Arab."
> > > >
> > > > Menurut Madden, peristiwa yang memulai Perang Salib
> > > > adalah penjajahan Turki atas sebagian besar Asia Minor
> > > > milik Kristen.
> > > > "Kaisar Kristen di Konstantinopel, menghadapi
> > > > lenyapnya setengah jumlah kekuasannya, kemudian
> > > > meminta bantuan kepada Eropa. Ia mendapatkannya, malah
> > > > lebih dari yang ia inginkan," tulis Madden.
> > > >
> > > > WorldNetDaily.com melaporkan:
> > > > “Dalam beberapa tahun akhir2 ini, pengumuman dari
> > > > Al-Azhar menimbulkan kontroversi. Pada tahun 2003,
> > > > Sheik Agung Al-Azhar, Muhamad Sayyid Tantawi,
> > > > mengatakan bahwa berdasarkan hukum Islam, suicide
> > > > bombers dianggap "martyrs". "
> > > >
> > > > Desember 2002, the Islamic Ruling Committee di
> > > > Al-Azhar memutuskan bahwa kepemilikan senjata nuklir
> > > > adalah kewajiban agama bagi negara2 Islam. Anggota
> > > > panel tsb, Sheikh Ala A-Shanawi mengatakan, "Bangsa
> > > > Islam harus mengenal musuh dan mempersiapkan diri."
> > > > A-Shanawi menulis, "Rasulullah sendiri akan
> > > > mempersiapkan diri dengan segala sumber yang
> > > > dimungkinkan guna menghadapi musuh. Oleh karena itu,
> > > > jika bangsa Islam tidak dilengkapi dengan persenjataan
> > > > yang diinginkan, mereka terpaksa menderita
> > > > konsekwensi."
> > > >
> > > > Dilanjutkannya, "Semua bangsa Islam diwajibkan untuk
> > > > merebut persenjataan nuklir. Kami melihat bagaimana
> > > > bangsa kita terbelakang akibat kurang persiapan,
> > > > sementara musuh melengkapi diri dengan persenjataan
> > > > yang paling maju, yang akan digunakannya untuk melukai
> > > > dan menghancurkan Muslimin."
> > > >
> > > > Mengingat sejarah dan sikap Muslimin, menuntut Paus
> > > > agar meminta maaf adalah sungguh keterlaluan. Pelaku
> > > > perang Salib memang melebihi mandat dan terlibat
> > > > tindakan brutal. Namun ini adalah balasan terhadap
> > > > kebiadaban Muslimin. Mengapa para petinggti Muslim
> > > > tidak menyebut barbaritas Muslim di Iran, Byzantium,
> > > > Mesir atau India? Di India sendiri lebih dari 80 juta
> > > > orang dibantai oleh pasukan Muslim. Ini lebih banyak
> > > > dari korban total Perang Dunia I dan II.
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > Si reza bakal tetap menyangkal tuh kalo memang crusade itu perang
> > > defensif terhadap invasi islam, seperti yg gw bilang sebelumnya.
> > > >
> > > > si jon juga bakal nangis ngeraung2 dilantai kalo dia tau korban diindia
> > > oleh islam, ternyata jumlahnya melebihi perang dunia 1 dan 2. itu baru
> > > diindia, belum ngitung totalnya. kalo ini bener islam taat jon, bunuh 
> > > bawa2
> > > ayat quran dan perintah nabi. bukan islam liberal hehe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Item abu sudah sering bilang bahwa Islam itu memang tidak mengenal
> > > golden rule...
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan tahun 2005 sudah ada yang ngirim ini:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/174859
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Nub" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > kayanya bener islam satu2nya agama yg tidak mengajarkan golden rule.
> > > > > > heck, i bet most of them dont even know what golden rule is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Islam and the Golden Rule
> > > > > > by Ali Sina
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 30 May, 2009
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From faithfreedom.org:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our friend Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch, the indefatigable defender
> > > of
> > > > > > the Western civilization, send me the following email and asked me 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > answer to the criticism of a Muslim to an article that I wrote four
> > > > > > years ago on the incompatibility of Islam and the Golden Rule. Here
> > > is
> > > > > > this Muslim's rebuttal and my response to him.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Recently I came across an attack on your piece on Islam and the
> > > Golden
> > > > > > Rule. These passages below were cited in refutation. Any guidance 
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > can give me on responding to this would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Islamic Text on the Golden Rule:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Quran:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Serve God, and join not any partners with Him; and do good - to
> > > > > > parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbors who are near,
> > > > > > neighbors who are strangers, the companion by your side, the 
> > > > > > wayfarer
> > > > > > (ye meet), and what your right hands possess [the slave]: For God
> > > loveth
> > > > > > not the arrogant, the vainglorious" (Q:4:36)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (In fact the Quran goes beyond saying the Golden Rule by stating in
> > > more
> > > > > > than four places that "Return evil with Kindness." (13:22,
> > > > > > 23:96, 41:34, 28:54, 42:40)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Prophet Muhammad (pbuh):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "None of you have faith until you love for your neighbor what you
> > > > > > love for yourself" (Sahih Muslim)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Whoever wishes to be delivered from the fire and to enter
> > > > > > Paradise…should treat the people as he wishes to be treated."
> > > > > > (Sahih Muslim)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "None of you truly believes until he wishes for his brother what he
> > > > > > wishes for himself" (Forty Hadith-Nawawi)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "None of you is a believer if he eats his full while his neighbour
> > > > > > hasn't anything." (Musnad)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Do unto all men as you would wish to have done unto you; and reject
> > > > > > for others what you would reject for yourselves." (Abu Dawud)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you." (Farewell Sermon)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "There should be neither harming nor reciprocating harm." (Ibn-
> > > > > > Majah)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Robert,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Quran is a book of double standards. Indeed, there are
> > > exhortations
> > > > > > to Muslims to be kind to the poor, the traveler, the orphan and the
> > > > > > sick. This is to be expected. If you want to start a religion you
> > > must
> > > > > > preach something good or you'd not find anyone to believe you. You
> > > > > > cannot preach only evil. In order to attract followers you must 
> > > > > > teach
> > > > > > things that people like and can easily identify as good. Once they
> > > > > > accept you as a prophet, guru or their spiritual guide, then you can
> > > do
> > > > > > whatever you want and get away with it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The difference between a true spiritual teacher and a conman is in
> > > their
> > > > > > consistency. There are several teachings of Muhammad that can be
> > > > > > compared to those of Jesus, but the teachings of Jesus are 
> > > > > > consistent
> > > > > > while those of Muhammad are not. Even a criminal can give you good
> > > > > > advises, this does not mean this criminal is a good person.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I was young there was a radio show in Iran called A City within
> > > Our
> > > > > > City. Every week the producer would interview a prison inmate on
> > > death
> > > > > > roll and the criminal would tell the story of his life and what
> > > brought
> > > > > > him to crime. At the end of the program the producer would ask,
> > > whether
> > > > > > the criminal had any advice for young people. These criminals often
> > > had
> > > > > > the best advises. They knew exactly the difference between right and
> > > > > > wrong. I recall thinking, if only someone complied the advices of
> > > these
> > > > > > criminals he could write the best book of guidance. Good words are
> > > dime
> > > > > > a dozen. If they are not accompanied by good actions they are
> > > worthless.
> > > > > > In fact the difference between a great man and a conman is in how
> > > much
> > > > > > their words and deeds differ. Even Obama came to power by giving 
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > talks. His entire life however was filled with crime and chicanery.
> > > > > > Demagogy is the domain of all charlatans and they are good at it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We find similar good exhortations in the teachings of Jim Jones who
> > > > > > actually based his religion on "social justice". He even adopted
> > > > > > children from many races to set the example.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem with the good teachings of Muhammad is that they are
> > > > > > reserved for fellow Muslims. When the hadith says, "None of you
> > > > > > [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for
> > > > > > himself,."it is talking about the fellow Muslims.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The brotherhood in Islam does not extend to everyone. The Quran 
> > > > > > (9:23
> > > > > > ) states that
> > > > > > the believers should not take for friends and protectors (awlia)
> > > their
> > > > > > fathers and brothers if they love Infidelity above Islam. In fact
> > > there
> > > > > > are many verses that tell the Muslims to kill the unbelievers and be
> > > > > > harsh to them. A clear example that Islam is not based on the Golden
> > > > > > Rule is the verse (48:29)
> > > > > > : "Muhammad
> > > > > > is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong
> > > against
> > > > > > Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other." This is the
> > > > > > perfect definition of fascism.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are many other verses that show the brotherhood in Islam is 
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > universal. The non believers have no rights and should not be
> > > treated in
> > > > > > the same way that Muslims are to be treated. The entire Quran is a
> > > > > > breach of the Golden Rule. The Quran tells Muslims to slay the
> > > > > > unbelievers wherever they find them (2:191
> > > > > > ), do not
> > > > > > befriend them (3:28
> > > > > > ), fight them
> > > > > > and show them harshness (9:123
> > > > > > ), smite their
> > > > > > heads (47:4 ),
> > >
> > > > > > etc. Are these verses compatible with the Golden Rule?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Islam is the only doctrine, that calls upon its believers to do evil
> > > to
> > > > > > others for the simple fact that they are not believers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > According to Muslims it is not the Golden Rule that defines the good
> > > and
> > > > > > bad, it is Muhammad who does it. They believe that what is good for
> > > > > > Islam is the highest virtue and what is bad for Islam is the 
> > > > > > ultimate
> > > > > > evil. This is the definition of good and evil in Islam. This is the
> > >
> > > > > > ethos of all cults. From Asahara's "Aum Shinrikyo" to Jim
> > > > > > Jones' "People's Temple"; from Sun Myung Moon's
> > > > > > "Unification Chruch" to David Koresh's "Davidian
> > > > > > Branch", the recurring theme is that the cult's interests
> > > > > > override the human understanding of right and wrong. In order to
> > > advance
> > > > > > the interest of the cult, which is regarded as the ultimate good,
> > > > > > everything, including lying, and even murder and assassination are
> > > > > > permissible. The end is deemed to be so lofty that it justifies the
> > > > > > means. This is the same idea of fascism where the glorification of
> > > the
> > > > > > state and the total subordination of the individual to it are
> > > enforced.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > None of the verse quoted above have anything to do with the Golden
> > > Rule.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Verse 13:22 tells the believers to be patient and generous with 
> > > > > > their
> > > > > > money. This is what all cults demand from their followers. The more
> > > > > > sacrifice the cultist make the more he or she can be manipulated.
> > > Verse
> > > > > > 23:96 asks Muslims to repel evil, whereas the definition of evil for
> > > > > > Muhammad was contradicting him. Verse 41:34 is a Meccan verse where
> > > > > > Muhammad and his followers were the underdogs and here he preached
> > > > > > patience and said repel evil with good so your enemy becomes as
> > > friend.
> > > > > > Could he have done anything else? These orders changed when Muhammad
> > > > > > came to power. In Medina Muhammad banished and massacred entire
> > > > > > populations just because he suspected that they may not be friendly
> > > to
> > > > > > him. 28:54 is a repetition of 23:96 and 42:40 says whoever forgives
> > > and
> > > > > > amends, he shall have his reward from Allah. However, Muhammad never
> > > > > > forgave those who mocked him. As for Muhammad's unforgiving nature
> > > > > > it is enough to recall the fate of Oqba the man who when Muhammad
> > > was in
> > > > > > Mecca used to mock him and when he was captured in the Battle of
> > > Badr,
> > > > > > Muhammad ordered his decapitation. He ventured to expostulate, and
> > > > > > demand why he should be treated more vigorously than the other
> > > captives
> > > > > > who were kept for ransom. `Because of your enmity to God and to his
> > > > > > Prophet,' replied Muhammad. `And my little girl!' cried
> > > > > > Oqba, in the bitterness of his soul, `Who will take care of
> > > > > > her?' – `Hellfire!' exclaimed the heartless conqueror;
> > > > > > and on the instant his victim was hewn to the ground. `Wretch that
> > > > > > he was!' continued Muhammad, `and persecutor! Unbeliever in
> > > > > > God, in his Prophet, and in his Book! I give thanks unto the Lord
> > > that
> > > > > > has slain you, and comforted mine eyes thereby.'[1]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do you reconcile the claim that Muhammad in his farewell sermon
> > > > > > said, "Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you." With the fact
> > > > > > that in his deathbed he said, "No two religions are allowed in
> > > > > > Arabia" and ordered the forced conversion, expulsion or ethnic
> > > > > > cleansing of the Jews and Christian and the murder of Pagans?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The sura 9, which is the last words of Muhammad, is a manifesto of
> > > > > > discrimination and human rights abuses. This sura alone is proof 
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > Islam is against the Golden Rule
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The first requisite to feel the pain and suffering of others is to
> > > > > > accept that they have feelings like us and they also feel hurt the
> > > way
> > > > > > we do. If we deny such feelings on others we do not feel any remorse
> > > in
> > > > > > abusing them. Muhammad claimed all those who disbelieve in Allah are
> > > the
> > > > > > worst creatures. He even said that all non-believers will end up in
> > > hell
> > > > > > where they will be tortured for eternity. How then Muslims can treat
> > > > > > equally those whom they believe to be worst than beast and that
> > > deserve
> > > > > > eternal punishment?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is nothing in the Quran and Hadith that would make us believe
> > > that
> > > > > > Islam is compatible with the Golden Rule.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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