mungkin habe ato uplik ngalamin peristiwa G30S/PKI, yang bermasalah orangtuanya tapi anak2-nya yang mungkin saat G30S meletus masih kecil/bayi tersangkut juga...
cilakanya, udah jadi PNS beberapa tahun gara2 screening keluarganya kalo ortunya dulu terlibat G30S, si PNS dipecat.. dosa apa anaknya? bahkan lulusan akabri yg pangkatnya udah kapten (pamen), mendadak dipecat gara2 dulu ortunya terlibat partai terlarang.. kalo dihitung mundur, bapaknya terlibat partai terlarang anak tersebut masih SD.... politik, perang... nyusahin tp kadang dibutuhkan. ________________________________ From: Ballast Yo <[email protected]> sya cuman nunjukin satu, ndak main ayat kok. sebage pembanding saja. tak lebih. setahu saya sebelum email saya ini, enggak pada membedakan saat damai atau perang, menyerang atau pertahankan diri. pada ngoceh ndak karuan... tapi okelah, sy menghargai perbedaan. meski belum jelas sejauh apa yg disebut perang... sekarang jikapun ayat ntu keadaan perang, tetep saja tergambar kekejian yg teramat sangat. suatu pembantaian sampai ke bocah sekalipun yg kagak tau apa2, termasuk ternak malah. bocah dibunuh, eeh wanita pesundal malah dibiarin hidup. pegimane coba? ? --- On Mon, 2/11/13, ayub [email protected]> wrote: > From: ayub [email protected]> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Officials: Assailants kill 3 North Korean > doctors, beheading 1, in northeastern Nigeria attack > To: "[email protected]" [email protected]> > Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 3:25 AM > > > wow .. kalo main ayat, nyerah dah > > gak hafal dan gak minat hafal... > > > > ntu ayat suasana perang ato damai ?? > > > > kalo damai yaa bener2 biadab > > kalo suasana perang.. jepang juga bayar pampasan perang ke > indonesia > > hotel di bali, jogja, pelabuhan ratu.. (termasuk gor > senayan?) > > > > perang mana ada yg manusiawi ? > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ballast Yo [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > kalo cuman tampar pipi mah keciiiiil.... > > nih lebih dahsyat kejamnya: > > > > 6:21 Mereka menumpas dengan mata pedang segala sesuatu yang > di dalam kota itu, baik laki-laki maupun perempuan, baik tua > maupun muda, sampai kepada lembu, domba dan keledai. > > > > dihabisin semua...cuman disisain wanita pesundal. > > kagak ada yg ngalahin tuh kejamnya yahweh. > > porno jugak... > > ;-) > > > > --- On Mon, 2/11/13, ayub [email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > From: ayub [email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Officials: Assailants kill > 3 North Korean doctors, beheading 1, in northeastern Nigeria > attack > > > To: "[email protected][email protected]> > > > Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 2:06 AM > > > > > > > > > > > kalo tafsiran gw... > > > > > > kalo ada orang merampok motor di rumahmu ato mau > membunuh > > > > > > ato mau memperkosa istrimu.. segera lapor polisi!! > > > > > > (tampar pipi kirimu berikan pipi kananmu) > > > > > > > > > > > > Jangan main hakim sendiri.. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Musik hari Ini [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > Janganlah kamu melawan orang yang berbuat jahat > kepadamu, > > > melainkan siapapun yang menampar pipi kananmu, berilah > juga > > > > > > > > > kepadanya pipi kirimu” (Matius) > > > > > > > > > > > > Makna ayat diatas adalah, bila ada orang merampok > motor > > > dirumahmu > > > > > > berilah mobilmu? jika ada musuh yang ingin membunuh mu, > maka > > > berikan > > > > > > dada mu. supaya ditusuk, jika ada orang yang ingin > > > memperkosa istrimu > > > > > > maka biarkan saja? apakah mungkin ayat yang mereka > klaim > > > dari tuhan ini > > > > > > bisa dipraktekan? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketika ayat ini diajarkan kepada orang > > > > > > indonesia oleh pendeta belanda, biar orang indonesia > tidak > > > melakukan > > > > > > perlawanan terhadap penjajahan belanda terhadap > indonesia, > > > maka dari itu bila mana mereka menjajah, selalu > dibarengai > > > dengan penyebaran agama > > > > > > kristen, untuk mempermudahkan mereka dalam menguasai > jajahan > > > mereka, > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Nub [email protected]> > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:37 AM > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Officials: Assailants kill 3 > North > > > Korean doctors, beheading 1, in northeastern Nigeria > attack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lah masalahnya kan apa yang dimaksud peperangan itu > dalam > > > quran. > > > > > > menghina islam dan muhammad kan berarti udah ngajak > perang, > > > berarti darahnya halal ditumpahkan. > > > > > > kaya yang elu mau lakuin ke abu ama jusfik. > > > > > > > > > > > > Memang ga ada pemaksaan dalam islam. > > > > > > Yang ada pembunuhan, pemerkosaan, pembakaran, > perampokan, > > > dan lain lain. > > > > > > ga ada paksaan. begitu murtad langsung bunuh, ga bakal > > > dipaksa pindah islam lagi. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], > > > "dimaswur" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ngak ! Sama sekali kagak ! Kamu aja yang salah > baca ! > > > Atau sekaliaan FITNAH ! Buat apa Tuhaan menurunkan > ayat > > > tiada paksaan dalam agama ! itu artinya tak ada > kebolehan > > > memaksa orang masuk Islam ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tapi karena dikarang sendiri oleh Item Idiot Abu; > maka > > > ceritanya jauh sekali dari maksud ayat ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ayat tersebut turun karena Muslim dinacam akan > > > dihabiskan oleh KAFIR1 Maka turun ayat supaya MUSLIM > berani > > > melawan dan membantai orang kafir jahat itu ! Dan > terbukti > > > dengan sedikit jumlah dan senjata wseadanya KAFIR > dapat > > > dikalaahkan !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi ayat tersebut terjadi dalam peperangan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], > > > itemabu2 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > auloh lu nyuruh ngebantai orang yg ogah > masuk > > > Islam, bukan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lu sendiri kan emang mau ngebantai gua, knp > lu > > > ngoceh seolah2 orang2 > > > > > > > > Islam itu ga doyan ngebantai orang, wong lu > > > sendiri jg doyan koq. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/10/13, dimaswur wrote: > > > > > > > > > PASTI !? jadi pembunuhan itu PASTI > karena > > > ajakan masuk Islam ditolak oleh > > > > > > > > > orang KORUT itu !!!??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bisa dibayangkan Nigeria yang agama > > > penduduknya ada Islam dan Kristen ! > > > > > > > > > Bagaimana caranya memaksa orang KORUT > masuk > > > Islam !? sedang bangsanya > > > > > > > > > sendiri masih banyak Kristennya !??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ini lebih meyakinkan lagi bahwa > siitemabu > > > sedang memfitnah Islam !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tapi saking IDIOTNYA kisahnya sangat > jelas > > > sekali BOHONGNYA !!! > > > > > > > > > Seperti kebohongan2 lain yang dia > semburkan > > > sebagai SAMPAH di Milis Proletar > > > > > > > > > ini !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kebohongan utama yang mempermalukan > > > kemanuasiaan adalah memberikan 100 juta > > > > > > > > > pada orang yang tak dikenal !!!!!@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Memang ini bisa saja kejadian yang > sebenarnya > > > ! Tapi haal ini karena > > > > > > > > > langkanya MESTI jadi BERITA BESAR > diberbagai > > > MEDIA di DUNIA ! Bukan hanya di > > > > > > > > > NKRI !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tapi seperti yang kita ketahui berita > > > tersebut tak ada sama sekali !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yah itu artinya apa dikatakan si item > idiot > > > abu adalah BOOOOHOOONG !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tak ada kata lain selain BOOOOHOOOONG > !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maka dengan berat hati saya katakan : > apa pun > > > yang diucapkaan oleh itemabu > > > > > > > > > semuanya PAAAADSTIIIII BOHONG alias > FITNAH > > > !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan yang MAU percaya akan OMONG > KOSONGNYA ! > > > Pasti BODOOONYA bukan kepalang ! > > > > > > > > > Pasti otaknya sudah tak bisa dipake > MIKIR > > > Lagi !!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apalagi yang menganggap OMONGAN BOHONG > item > > > idiot abu sebagai tindakan yang > > > > > > > > > MULIA !!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hati2 rahwana dan nub !!! pilihlah teman > ; > > > jangaan sembarangan !!!! > > > > > > > > > pembohong janganlah dijadikan TEMAN. > Itu > > > nasihat DIMAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], > > > itemabu2 wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Perintah auloh adalah bantai kafir > kalo > > > ketemu di mana aja, tangkap > > > > > > > > >> dan sergap mereka, kalo mereka ga > > > bertobat, maka bantai aja. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Makanya 3 kafir dr Korea Utara ini > > > dibantai, krn mereka pasti ga mau > > > > > > > > >> masuk Islam. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Officials+Attackers+kill+South+Korean+doctors+beheading/7944836/story.html > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Officials: Assailants kill 3 North > Korean > > > doctors, beheading 1, in > > > > > > > > >> northeastern Nigeria attack > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> By Mohammed Abubakar, The > Associated > > > Press February 10, 2013 11:50 AM > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Read more: > > > > > > > > >> http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Officials+Attackers+kill+South+Korean+doctors+beheading/7944836/story.html#ixzz2KX2gTwUp > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> POTISKUM, Nigeria - Assailants in > > > northeastern Nigeria killed three > > > > > > > > >> North Korean doctors, beheading one > of > > > the physicians, in the latest > > > > > > > > >> attack on health workers in a > nation > > > under assault by a radical > > > > > > > > >> Islamic sect, officials said > Sunday. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> The deaths Saturday night of the > doctors > > > in Potiskum, a town in Yobe > > > > > > > > >> state long under attack by the sect > known > > > as Boko Haram, comes after > > > > > > > > >> gunmen killed at least nine women > > > administering polio vaccines in > > > > > > > > >> Kano, the major city of > Nigeria's > > > predominantly Muslim north. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> The two attacks raise new questions > over > > > whether the extremist sect, > > > > > > > > >> targeted by Nigeria's police > and > > > military, has picked a new soft > > > > > > > > >> target in its guerrilla campaign of > > > shootings and bombings across the > > > > > > > > >> nation. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> The attackers apparently struck at > the > > > North Korean doctors inside > > > > > > > > >> their home, said Dr. Mohammed > Mamman, > > > chairman of the Hospital > > > > > > > > >> Managing Board of Yobe State. The > North > > > Korean doctors had no security > > > > > > > > >> guards at their residence and > typically > > > travelled around the city via > > > > > > > > >> three-wheel taxis without a police > > > escort, officials said. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> By the time soldiers arrived at the > > > house, they found the doctors' > > > > > > > > >> wives cowering in a flower bed > outside > > > their home. At the property, > > > > > > > > >> they found the corpses of the men, > all > > > bearing what appeared to be > > > > > > > > >> machete wounds. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> An Associated Press journalist later > saw > > > the North Korean doctors' > > > > > > > > >> corpses before they were moved to > nearby > > > Bauchi state for safe > > > > > > > > >> keeping. Two of the men had their > throats > > > slit. Attackers beheaded the > > > > > > > > >> other doctor. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> The doctors lived in a quiet > > > neighbourhood filled with other modest > > > > > > > > >> homes in the town. There wasn't > room > > > to house them at the hospital, > > > > > > > > >> where they would have had some > security > > > protection, Mamman said. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Initially, doctors at the hospital > who > > > worked with the physicians > > > > > > > > >> identified them as being from South > > > Korea, while police identified the > > > > > > > > >> dead as being from China. > Ultimately, > > > Mamman of the health board told > > > > > > > > >> journalists those killed were from > North > > > Korea and had lived in the > > > > > > > > >> state since 2005 as part of a > technical > > > exchange program between the > > > > > > > > >> state and the North Korean > government. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> There are more than a dozen other > North > > > Korean doctors posted to the > > > > > > > > >> state under the program, as well as > > > engineers, Mamman said. He said > > > > > > > > >> all will receive immediate > protection > > > from security forces. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> "It is very unfortunate," > > > Mamman said of the killings. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Yobe state police commissioner > Sanusi > > > Rufai confirmed the attack took > > > > > > > > >> place and said officers had begun > an > > > investigation. Rufai said > > > > > > > > >> officers had made 10 arrests after > the > > > killings, though police in > > > > > > > > >> Nigeria routinely round up those > living > > > around the site of a crime, > > > > > > > > >> whether or not there is any > evidence > > > suggesting their complicity. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> No one claimed responsibility for > the > > > attack, though suspicion fell on > > > > > > > > >> the Boko Haram sect. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Boko Haram, whose name means > > > "Western education is sacrilege," has > > > > > > > > >> been attacking government buildings > and > > > security forces over the last > > > > > > > > >> year and a half. In 2012 alone, the > group > > > was blamed for killing at > > > > > > > > >> least 792 people, according to an > AP > > > count. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> The sect, which typically speaks to > > > journalists in telephone > > > > > > > > >> conference calls at times of its > > > choosing, could not be reached for > > > > > > > > >> comment Sunday. In recent months, > > > however, Boko Haram has not claimed > > > > > > > > >> any attacks, raising questions > about > > > whether the shadowy sect that > > > > > > > > >> already had a loose > command-and-control > > > structure had splintered into > > > > > > > > >> smaller, independently operating > terror > > > groups. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Since late 2011, Potiskum, about > 500 > > > kilometres (300 miles) northeast > > > > > > > > >> of Nigeria's central capital, > Abuja, > > > has been targeted by Boko Haram > > > > > > > > >> fighters in attacks. The attacks > killed > > > dozens at a time and brought > > > > > > > > >> the deployment of a heavy contingent > of > > > police officers and soldiers > > > > > > > > >> to the town. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> For the last few weeks, however, > Potiskum > > > has been quiet. Soldiers > > > > > > > > >> still mount a series of checkpoints > > > throughout the town, where in the > > > > > > > > >> past the military has put > neighbourhoods > > > in lockdown and launched > > > > > > > > >> door-to-door searches for > militants. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Oil-rich Nigeria, home to more than > 160 > > > million people, maintains > > > > > > > > >> diplomatic relations with North > Korea, > > > which faces international > > > > > > > > >> criticism over its nuclear weapon > > > program. In October, a delegation of > > > > > > > > >> Nigerian officials led by Minister > of > > > State for Foreign Affairs Viola > > > > > > > > >> Onwuliri visited North Korea. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Pyongyang's official Korean > Central > > > News Agency did not immediately > > > > > > > > >> report the three doctors' > deaths > > > Sunday. In Pyongyang earlier Sunday, > > > > > > > > >> North Koreans marked the Lunar New > Year > > > with pilgrimages to the giant > > > > > > > > >> statues of their late leaders. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Foreigners have been targets for > such > > > attacks in the region in the > > > > > > > > >> past. Several Chinese construction > > > workers have been shot dead in > > > > > > > > >> recent months around the > northeastern > > > city of Maiduguri. That prompted > > > > > > > > >> the Chinese government to contact > > > Nigerian officials and ask them to > > > > > > > > >> provide better protection for their > > > citizens. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> The killings of the doctors come > after > > > the attack Friday on polio > > > > > > > > >> vaccinators in Kano, northern > > > Nigeria's most populous city. No group > > > > > > > > >> has yet claimed responsibility for > that > > > attack either, though it > > > > > > > > >> follows alleged Boko Haram attacks > now > > > focusing on softer targets, > > > > > > > > >> like lightly guarded mobile phone > towers. > > > Those mobile phone tower > > > > > > > > >> attacks have limited the ability of > > > residents and security forces to > > > > > > > > >> call for help during attacks, as > well as > > > have cut the government's > > > > > > > > >> ability to use the signals to track > > > suspected militants. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> In a statement Friday, President > Goodluck > > > Jonathan condemned the > > > > > > > > >> killings of the polio workers and > > > promised that efforts to cut child > > > > > > > > >> mortality wouldn't be stopped > by > > > "mindless acts of terrorism." > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> "While the government will > continue > > > to do everything possible to track > > > > > > > > >> down and apprehend agents of > terrorism in > > > the country, the president > > > > > > > > >> has directed that enhanced security > > > measures be put in place > > > > > > > > >> immediately for health workers in > > > high-risk areas," the statement > > > > > > > > >> read. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Despite that promise, however, > attackers > > > were able to kill the North > > > > > > > > >> Korean doctors and apparently slip > away. > > > Reuben Abati, a presidential > > > > > > > > >> spokesman, did not respond to a > request > > > for comment Sunday. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> ___ > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Associated Press writers Jon > Gambrell in > > > Johannesburg and Hyung-jin > > > > > > > > >> Kim in Seoul, South Korea, > contributed to > > > this report. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Read more: > > > > > > > > >> http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Officials+Attackers+kill+South+Korean+doctors+beheading/7944836/story.html#ixzz2KX2mvVbh > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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