memang pernah kejadian pin. waktu kemarin diindo, jaman banjir. gua ambil jalur busway soalnya takut kena banjir (ke arah green garden). taunya ada polisi cari duit. 4 mobil didepan gua semua kena stop dan pada ngeluarin selembar merah (cepe). giliran mobil gua, gua ngasih sign pake tangan gua, kaya mau nyapa, ehh mobil gua disuruh jalan terus LOLOLOLOLOLOL gua ampe ngakak, tuh polis pasti mikir gua orang penting kali ya haha
--- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@...> wrote: > > eli kan cuma nddak bisa bantah aja kalau emang mobil elo mobil butut. > elo pan ngomongnya gede. > pakai ngomong pokisi nddak berani ngeberhentiin mobil elo. > emangnya elo siapa? > elo pan nddak lebih dari pendeta paling tolol > yang parnah gue tahu. > > gue banyak bersahabat dengan banyak pendeta. > mereka pada cerdas. > elo kayaknya emang suatu kekecualian. > > sana deh! bikin kopi aja sana gih! > > nddak usah ngomong gedebuk CIA atau FBi atawa KGB segala macem. > udah deh . . . gedein dulu itu elo punya burung. > biar laen kali bini elo yang bikinin kopi. > > --- In [email protected], "Nub" <nubtheologian@> wrote: > > > > hehe emang lu kalo soal imajinasi memang ga ada duanya pin. > > kayanya cuma lu satu2nya manusia didunia ini yg nganggap coki2 = pacaran. > > bener kata habe, mending lu jadi penulis dongeng pin, kali2 laku. > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > polisi juga punya insting nub. . . > > > nyetop mobil elo mah percuma. > > > buang buang waktu aja. > > > toh nddak di stop juga brenti sendiri. > > > mogok. > > > > > > atau giliran di stop. > > > mobil elo malah nddak bisa jalan lagi. > > > accu nya lemah. > > > pan.jadi nambah kerjaan ngedorong mobil butut. > > > > > > sudahlah. . . > > > dari cerita elo, > > > mobil elo jauh dari angka gopek. > > > > > > simple. > > > gampang ditebak. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Nub" <nubtheologian@> wrote: > > > > > > > > nyambung buat orang bego kaya lu aja jon. > > > > gua digebukin pas smp jon, bukan bapa2. > > > > sekarang mah jangankan gebukin gua, polisi nyetop mobil gua aja belum > > > > tentu berani jon hehe > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "johny_indon" <johny_indon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > item abu sama si nub punya kemiripan, sama2 kresten militan. > > > > > sekarang coba kita analisa. > > > > > dari cerita si bleki dan nub, gua koq jadi curiga, jangan2 si nub ini > > > > > bapaknya si bleki? > > > > > soalnya ceritanya nyambung, ada benang merahnya. > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" > > > > > <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > kok bisa ya elo smp naek motor kayak gituan . . . > > > > > > pantesan udah gede nya tengil kayak gini. > > > > > > ck. . . ck. . . ck. . . > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dah gua bilang, gua tuh cuma sekedar nyalib. Bukan petantang > > > > > > > petenteng. Cuma karna motor gua dah di modif, bunyi knalpotnya > > > > > > > gahar (orang komplex aja ampe komplen ke bokap). Tuh tentara > > > > > > > emang jeles aja kali liat motor bagus dikit hehe > > > > > > > Itu si tentara emang rada sakit jiwa sih kayanya. Gua inget ada 3 > > > > > > > orang tukang ojek yg mau belain gua, tiga2nya malah dikasih kayu > > > > > > > buat berantem ama dia LOL tuh tukang ojek ngibrit semua. Untung > > > > > > > ada mobil polisi patrol, guanya disuruh pergi deh, si tentara ga > > > > > > > tau diapain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intinya sih hidup itu jangan belagu, biasa2 wae. > > > > > > > > masih mending lu cuman petantang pententeng di depan tentara. > > > > > > > > kalo motor yg lu salip itu ternyata punyanya si hercules atau > > > > > > > > john > > > > > > > > kei, lu bukan cuman babak belur, tapi serpihan badan lu udah > > > > > > > > beredar di sepanjang jalan tol. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tentara diindo memang suka gebukin orang. > > > > > > > > > dulu gua smp bawa motor yg udah dimodif nyalib motor tentara. > > > > > > > > > ehh gua dikejar trus dicegat ditengah jalan raya, disuruh > > > > > > > > > minggir. > > > > > > > > > dia bilang gua sengaja mainin knalpot gua yg berisik depan > > > > > > > > > motor dia, trus gua dihajar abis ama dia. > > > > > > > > > bayangin, tentara lawan anak smp? bener2 kagak ada malunya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > temen gua bapaknya tentara, pangkatnya udah jen2 an. > > > > > > > > > waktu smp main sepeda ama gua, dideket (luar) komplex > > > > > > > > > rumahnya ada taman. ada 3 tentara disitu lagi ga pake pakaian > > > > > > > > > dinas ga suka ama temen gua main sepeda. masih smp, gua > > > > > > > > > dibentak tentara ya takut. tapi karna temen gua bapaknya > > > > > > > > > tentara juga, dia ga takut. si tentara kesel, temen gua > > > > > > > > > dihajar abis2an ampe mata kirinya ga bisa kebuka (dihajar > > > > > > > > > abis, soalnya temen gua ini ngelawan mukul juga, gila juga > > > > > > > > > tuh anak masih smp berani bgt). > > > > > > > > > kita pulang kerumah dia buru2. bapaknya tahu kejadiannya, dia > > > > > > > > > nyuruh ajudannya manggil tuh 3 tentara. gantian tuh 3 tentara > > > > > > > > > dihajar abis2an dimarkas. > > > > > > > > > jadi kalo tentara suka main hajar itu memang bukan rahasia > > > > > > > > > umum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > >> To: [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>> Aku sangat simpati pada bapak elo yang digebukin orang. > > > > > > > > > > >>> Makanya pantes > > > > > > > > > > >>> kau > > > > > > > > > > >>> mitnah orang Islam, karena nganggap yang gebukin bapak > > > > > > > > > > >>> elo adaalah orang > > > > > > > > > > >>> Islam. > > > > > > > > > > >>> Padahal belum tentu. Bisa saja yang NGAKU Islam; sambil > > > > > > > > > > >>> gebukin sambil > > > > > > > > > > >>> mitnah orang. > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> --- In [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Pantesan si item idiot abu punya dendam kesumat > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > teramat beraat > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > terhadap > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Islam dan oraang Islam. Bapaknya ternyata dulu > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > mungkin sering > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > digebukin > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > ! > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Dan yang ngegebukin "diperkirakan" orang Islam ! Yah > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > gampang kok > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > mitnah > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Islam ! > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Jadi manusia yang tak bertanggung JAWAB tersebut > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > punya duaa tiga > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > keuntungan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > : 1. Bisa ngegebukin bapanya si item idiot abu; 2. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Fitmah Islam 3. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Dia > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > nya > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > sendiri NGAKAK melihat kebodohan dan keidiotan si > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > item idiot abu ! > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Yah mau bilang apa ? aanaknya kini jadi pembela > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > bapak yang digebukin; > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > sambil > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > tak tahu jelas kemanaa harus balasnya !? > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > kalo ngga punya salah ngga mungkin dianiaya. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > coba inget2 lagi blek, waktu itu bapak lu > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > ngejambret dimana? > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > --- In [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > Hehehe... > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > Jadi emang mata lu terlalu sipit baca tulisan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > gw, atau lu > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > bacanya > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > pake > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > biji > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > peler, atau bahkan lu terlalu dogol untuk > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > mengerti tulisan gw? > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > Coba dipake otak lo dong tem, mosok gw mau > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > anjing sipit gw > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > dibantai? > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > --- In [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tem, in i kristen2 dogol modar ditembak > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > kopasus. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > untung bapak lo urusannya cuman sama > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tentara, jadi cuman > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > digamparin > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > setengah > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > modar aja. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > coba kalo urusannya sama kopasus, bapak lo > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > bukan cuman > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > digamparin > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > aja > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tapi > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > di jedor juga tuh kayak kristen dogol ini.. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > ==== > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Anggota Kopassus Diduga Serbu Penjara di > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Sleman > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Besar Kecil Normal > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > TEMPO.CO, Sleman - Lembaga Pemasyarakatan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Cebongan Sleman > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > diserang > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > belasan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > orang tak dikenal. Mereka mengincar empat > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tahanan yang > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > menjadi > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tersangka > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > pengeroyok seorang anggota Kopassus hingga > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > terwas. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Kepala Kepolisian Daerah (Kapolda) Daerah > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Istimewa > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Yogyakarta > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Brigadir > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Jenderal Sabar Rahardjo mengatakan empat > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tersangka yang > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > diincar > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tewas > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > ditembak pada Sabtu, 23 Maret 2013 sekitar > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > pukul 01.00 WIB. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Mereka > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > merupakan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tersangka pelaku penganiayaan hingga > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > menewaskan anggota TNI > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Angkatan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Darat > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Kesatuan Kopassus Kandang Menjangan, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Kartosuro, Solo, Sersan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Satu > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Santoso. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > "Ya, mereka pelakunya (penganiayaan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Santoso)," kata Sabar > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Rahardjo, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > saat > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > berada di Lembaga Pemasyarakatan Cebngan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Sleman, Sabtu pagi. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Dia menjelaskan, kronologi kejadian itu, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > ada gerombolan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > dengan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > penutup > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > wajah > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > melompat pagar penjara setinggi sekitar 1,5 > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > meter. Mereka > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > lalu > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > memaksa > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > penjaga membuka pintu dengan cara mengancam > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > akan meledakkan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > granat. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Setelah masuk penjara, mereka memaksa > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > penjaga pembawa kunci > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > ruang > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tahanan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > untuk mencari target empat orang tersangka > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > itu. Setelah > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > mendapatkaan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > target, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > germbolaan itu menembak empat orang itu. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Akibatnya empat > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > orang > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > itu > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tewas. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Dugaan sementara, ada sekitar 17 orang yang > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > masuk, namun > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > juga > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > masih > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > ada > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > yang > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > berjaga di luar penjara kelas 2B itu. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Sementara, Closed Circuit Television (CCTV) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > yang dipaasang > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > di > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > penjaara > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > itu > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > diambil oleh gerombolan itu. Hingga pagi > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > hari, petugas dari > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Laboratorium > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Forensik (Labfor) Polda Daerah Istimewa > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Yogyakarta masih > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > berada > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > di > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > penjara. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Di luar lapas, puluhan polisi dan tentara > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > berjaga. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Polisi masih melakukan penyelidikan untuk > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > mencari para > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > pelaku > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > yang > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > menewaskan tersangka itu. Para tersangka > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > adalah Hendrik > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Angel > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Sahetapi > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > alias > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Deki, Adrianus Candra Galaga, Yohanes Juan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Mambait, Gameliel > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Yermiayant > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Rohi > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Riwu. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Mereka adalah tersangka kejadian > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > penganiayaan Santoso, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > anggota > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Kopassus > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > pada > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Selasa 19 Maret 2013 di Hugo's cafe, Jalan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Adisutjipto, km > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > 8,5, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Maguwoharjo, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Sleman. Tentara berpangkat Sersan Satu itu > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tewas dengan luka > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tusuk. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > --- In [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > emang kalo tangan kanannya yg buntung > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > trus ceboknya > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > gimana > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > juga > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > blek? > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > coba sebagai pemerhati cebok gua pengen > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > tau jawaban elu > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > dan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > si > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > kup... > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > eh > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > rico cebok. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > (orang sibuk ngobrolin investasi lu pade > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > masih puyeng dgn > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > soal > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > percebokan. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > lol) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > --- In [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > Kalo gak cebok artinya gak ISlami > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > dong.... hehehehe > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > --- In [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Inilah cara2 berak dan kencing yg > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Islami, menunjukkan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> betapa > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> dungunya > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> orang Islam dan ajaran Islam tsb. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Agama tolol menghasilkan orang > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> tolol, agama bejad > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> menghasilkan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> orang > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> bejad. 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Then he called for a > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> palm-branch, which he > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> broke > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> two > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> placed each piece on a grave, It was > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> said to him, `O > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Messenger > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Allaah, why did you do that?' 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upon > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> him) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> said: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "When any one of you goes to the > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> lavatory, he should > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> neither > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> touch > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> his > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> penis nor clean his private parts > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> with his right > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> hand." > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (Narrated > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> by > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> al-Bukhaari, al-Wudoo', 149) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 7 �" It is not permissible to > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> relieve oneself in the > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> street > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> or > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> shade, because the Prophet (peace > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and blessings of > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Allaah > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> be > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> upon > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> him) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> said: "Beware of two things which > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> provoke cursing." > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> They > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> said, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "What > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> are the two things which provoke > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> cursing, O Messenger > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Allaah?" > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> He > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> said, "Relieving oneself on the > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> street or in the > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> shade." > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (Narrated > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> by > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Muslim, al-Tahaarah, 397) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 8 �" It is makrooh to speak whilst > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> relieving oneself. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 9 �" It is mustahabb when coming > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> out of the washroom > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> to > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> say > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Ghufraanak > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (I ask You (Allaah) for Your > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 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