"masih banyak beh klaim Yesus yg membuat statement Lewis itu jadi make sense. jadi either lo maki2, ludahin, bunuh, anggap Yesus itu gila ATAU elu terima Yesus sebagai Tuhan. . "
LOL! ngakak lagi gua baca tulisan si nub ini. lu mau maksa habe? gua yakin dia ngga akan ambil pilihan yg terakhir itu, kalo ngga ya, maaf aja, artinya dia yg gila. LOL! lu ngaku2 mampu berpikir logis, bahkan dikasih gelar logician sama si uplik, tapi ngga pernah ada kalimat2 yg logis dari tulisannya. bener2 mengherankan. nulis opini sendiri ngga pede. tapi pamer ketololan koq pede bener. LOL! --- In [email protected], "Nub" <nubtheologian@...> wrote: > > orang kristen yg pernah baca buku apologetic pasti tau lah sapa c s lewis. > gua pernah bilang kok dimilis ini kayanya, kalo c s lewis itu salah satu > tokoh kristen terbesar abad 20. > soal dia jago ngayal (temen deketnya Tolkien, hebat tuh dua sahabat! ga kaya > pinpin ama jonjon LOL) terus argumennya jadi ga valid ya ga bisa gitu juga > beh. ad hominem itu namanya. > > skrg bahas dikit deh argumennya lewis. > Lewis bilang perkataan2 yg diucapkan Yesus itu hanya bisa diucapkan oleh > orang gila atau emang Tuhan sendiri. > > misalnya Yesus bilang kalau Dia bisa mengampuni dosa, makanya orang israel > waktu itu berusaha membunuh Yesus ketika mendengar Yesus mengampuni dosa. > karna mereka tahu hanya Allah yg berhak mengampuni dosa. > > Atau Yesus bilang kalau Dia sudah ada dari sejak kekekalan. > > Atau Yesus bilang Dia akan datang lagi kedunia ini untuk kedua kalinya untuk > menjadi hakim, yg menurut Perjanjian Lama Allah sendiri yg bilang kalau Allah > akan menghakimi dunia ini. > > masih banyak beh klaim Yesus yg membuat statement Lewis itu jadi make sense. > jadi either lo maki2, ludahin, bunuh, anggap Yesus itu gila > ATAU elu terima Yesus sebagai Tuhan. > kalau sekedar guru mah ga ada di pilihan beh. > gitu dulu. > > buat pinpin pembantu gua yg gua gaji 200rb sebulan, lu diam aja ya. > ini heavyweights lagi diskusi. lu kelas bulu manggut2 aja duduk manis, ok? > > LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL > > --- In [email protected], Habe Proletar <proletar4@> wrote: > > > > ya kalau bawa bawa cs lewis bener bener ngga aci > > amat sulit buat gue untuk percaya tukang hayal seperti si lewis > > pernah nonton the chronicles of narnia? > > ada singa bisa ngomonglah, kuda terbanglah,sihir ini itulah > > > > alibi si lewis, seperti maksa untuk memilih cenderung kocak > > " elu percaya jesus itu tuhan, atau jesus orang gila " ? > > > > lah gue ngga percaya dua duanya > > > > yang gue percaya, Jesus itu orang biasa, dan bukan tuhan > > > > dan gue bersedia menjadi muridnya > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Nub <nubtheologian@> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:26 AM > > Subject: [proletar] Re: pengikut Jesus > > > > > > > >  > > Nih beh, karna gua otw, gua copy paste aja perkataan c s lewis yg terkenal: > > > > "I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that > > people often say about Him: I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral > > teacher, but I don't accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we > > must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus > > said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic �" > > on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg �" or else he > > would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, > > and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut > > him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can > > fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any > > patronising nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left > > that open to us. He did not intend to. ... Now it seems to me obvious that > > He was neither a lunatic nor a fiend: and consequently, however strange or > > terrifying or unlikely it may seem, I have to accept the view that He was > > and is God." > > > > --- In [email protected], Habe Proletar <proletar4@> wrote: > > > > > > pertanyaan buat orang kristen > > > > > > gue, habe ingin mengikuti ajaran Jesus ( dan ini serius ) > > > sebab gue tahu, dengan mengikuti omongan dia, moral orang relatif menjadi > > > lebih bagus > > > tapi, ada tapinya nih...dia tidak pernah dianggap sebagai Allah > > > > > > kira kira julukan yang tepat buat gue a christian, semi christian atau > > > apa ya? > > > > > > soalnya gue males balik ke agama lama > > > makin mendalami itu agama, makin kental kekafiran gua > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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