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Betul2 tipikal Islam. On 5/8/13, dimaswur <[email protected]> wrote: > Hehehe... AntiIslam itu emang pada IDIOT dan suka pada agama yg benar, yang > benar2 bejad dan biadab. >> > > --- In [email protected], itemabu2 <itemabu2@...> wrote: >> >> Hehehe... Islam itu emang agama yg benar, benar2 bejad dan biadab. >> >> >> http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/05/morocco-muslim-cleric-condemns-violence-in-islams-name-is-declared-an-apostate-and-threatened-with-d.html >> >> Morocco: Muslim cleric condemns violence in Islam's name, is declared >> an apostate and threatened with death >> >> From modern, moderate Morocco comes yet another example of why we >> don't see more sincere Muslim reformers. Ahmed Assid said: "To call >> [upon people] to follow Islam by the use of violence and constraint is >> an act of terrorism." For that, he has been condemned, declared a >> non-Muslim, and threatened with death. >> >> Now wait a minute. We're constantly told that the overwhelming >> majority of Muslims condemn violence and terror and abhor the violence >> done in Islam's name. So why isn't Ahmed Assid celebrated as a hero, >> instead of fearing for his life? >> >> Tiny Minority of Extremists Update: Morocco: Comments About Islam >> Spark Firestorm," by Mohamed Saadouni for Magharebia, May 7 (thanks to >> Twostellas): >> >> Casablanca — Moroccan activist Ahmed Assid has unleashed a torrent >> of criticism, including a takfir fatwa from a leading salafist >> preacher, for making controversial comments about Islam. >> >> During a three-day seminar at the 10th national congress of the >> Moroccan Association of Human Rights (AMDH) in Rabat, which ended on >> April 21st, Assid suggested that religious school textbooks lured >> youths to violence. >> >> To call [upon people] to follow Islam by the use of violence and >> constraint is an act of terrorism," he said. >> >> Assid should be sued for insulting the prophet and ridiculing >> Islam, salafist preacher Sheikh Mohammed Fizazi said during a lecture >> at Ibn Tofail University in Kenitra. >> >> Yet the strongest reaction came from Sheikh Hassan Kettani, who >> accused Assid of kufr. In describing him as a "criminal" and "enemy of >> God", Kettani issued a call for "silencing his voice". >> >> In a statement posted on Facebook, Kettani said that Assid had >> "crossed all lines in provoking Moroccans in particular and the ummah >> of Islam in general by deliberately insulting and desecrating each and >> every one of their sanctities". >> >> "In his impudence, he [Assid] went as far as to claim that the >> Quran contains no eloquence, ridiculing and underestimating the >> language of Quran," Kettani's statement went on. >> >> By this Kettani apparently means that the Qur'an teaches violence, and >> so Assid is ridiculing the Qur'an by rejecting violence. >> >> Assid later defended his comments. >> >> "The thing that attracts attention is the violent, uncivilised >> nature of this campaign that lacks the simplest values of dialogue and >> right to different opinions, and thus seeks to consolidate a culture >> that we don't need here in Morocco, that is the culture of >> confiscation, of trial, incitement and threats, et cetera," Assid told >> Magharebia. >> >> "These are very negative matters that we as viable forces >> believing in democracy have to fight," he said. "There will always be >> differences, but we nevertheless must continue to engage in dialogue, >> debates and rapprochement," >> >> He said his words at the AMDH seminar were distorted and taken out >> of context. >> >> "The words of anyone may not be construed so as to destroy him and >> incite others against him in such a serious manner," Assid said. " We >> have to refute arguments with arguments, which is the best option for >> the Moroccan experience."... >> >> Refute arguments with arguments? I have never known an Islamic >> supremacist to do that. From Reza Aslan to Omid Safi to Haroon Moghul >> to Caner K. Dagli and all the rest of them, Islamic supremacists >> content themselves with smearing and insulting those whom they fear >> and hate. They never deal with pro-freedom advocates' arguments. >> >> Posted by Robert on May 8, 2013 10:40 AM >> > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
