Sebetulnya, cara paling gampang menghadapi dan membasmi Islam itu adalah dgn ngediamkan orang Islam saling bunuh, kelaparan dsb. Ga lama jg mereka akan begitu miskinnya shg mereka cuma sibuk nyari makan, bukannya sibuk daqwah atau bunuh2an.
Cuma kasian jg ngeliat penderitaan orang Islam. Emang buah simalakama. On 5/17/13, Bukan Pedanda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Betul-betul bak buah simalakamo: membantu oposisi yang diantaranya ada yagn > biadabnya begitu mengerikan tidak menjamin Siria akan menjadi demokratik dan > hak-hak azasi mansuia akan terjamin, kalau oposisi tidak dibantu maka Assad > akan terus membunuhi dan menindas rakyatnya... > > Masaalahnya: ajaran Islam itu adalah malapetaka untuk ummat manusia,a rtinya > juga untuk orang Islam sendiri. > > > > > U.S. President Barack Obama and PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey walk into > the White House Rose Garden, May 16, 2013. > Obama, Turkish prime minister discuss how to end civil war in Syria > > > By Joe Sterling, CNN > May 16, 2013 -- Updated 2352 GMT (0752 HKT) > STORY HIGHLIGHTS > * President Barack Obama, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan talk to > the > media in Washington > * The unrest in Syria has persisted for more than two years, despite > diplomatic efforts > * Opposition group says fighting killed at least 63 people Thursday > * Obama says the Geneva initiative looks promising > (CNN) -- The leaders of Turkey and the United States are huddling in > Washington on Thursday over how to handle the Syrian > civil war, the raging conflict that has left an estimated 80,000 people > dead and a few million displaced -- despite more than two years of > diplomacy to halt the bloodshed. > President Barack Obama > and Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, meeting in Washington, > discussed how to strengthen the Syrian opposition, help the many people > displaced by the war, and mobilize the international community to put > more pressure on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and forge a political > transition. > They spoke as the warfare in Syria raged Thursday. The opposition Local > Coordination Committees > in Syria said at least 63 people were killed, including 45 in Damascus > and its suburbs. > "We're going to keep > increasing the pressure on the Assad regime, and working with the Syrian > opposition," Obama said. "The prime minister has been on the forefront > of the international effort to push for a transition to a democratic > Syria without Bashar Assad. And Turkey is going to play an important > role as we bring representatives of the regime and opposition together > in the coming weeks." > Assad's forces gaining momentum in Syria > Atrocities in Syria > Syria-Turkey border tensions flare > Syrian refugees stuck in limbo > Obama said he and Erdogan agree that al-Assad needs to transfer power. > "That is the only way > we're going to resolve this crisis. And we're going to keep working for a > Syria that is free from Assad's tyranny, that is intact and inclusive > of all ethnic and religious groups, and that's a source of stability, > not extremism, because it's in the profound interest of all our nations, > especially Turkey." > Turkey has been a major > player in the effort to push for change in Syria, which sits on its > southern border. At one time, Erdogan and al-Assad had close ties, but > the war has made them antagonists. Turkey has long harbored many Syrian > refugees and hosted opposition entities. > "I've made it clear again today that the United States is going to keep on > helping countries in > the region, including Turkey, shoulder this burden, doing our part as a > major donor of humanitarian aid to the Syrian people, including those > refugees in Turkey. And we're going to keep working with our Turkish > partners to deliver the food, shelter and medicine that's needed to save > lives." > Erdogan said ending the > war and meeting the people's demands for a new government "are two areas > where we are in full agreement with the United States. Supporting the > opposition and Assad leaving are important issues. " > "We also agree that we > have to prevent Syria from becoming an area for terrorist organizations. We > also agreed that chemical weapons should not be used and all > minorities and their rights should be secured. These are all priority > areas for all of us," he said. > Obama said that solid evidence of chemical weaponry would constitute a red > line in the conflict and produce major consequences. > "I've said in the past, > we have seen evidence of the use of chemical weapons inside of Syria. It is > important for us to make sure that we're able to get more specific > information about what exactly is happening there," he said. > "But separate and apart > from the chemical weapons, we know that tens of thousands of people are > being killed with artillery and mortars and that the humanitarian crisis and > the slaughter that's taking place by itself is sufficient to prompt strong > international action." > He cited a "whole range > of options that the United States is already engaged in" and said he > preserved "the options of taking additional steps, both diplomatic and > military, because those chemical weapons inside of Syria also threaten > our security over the long term as well as our allies and friends and > neighbors." > Possible solutions to Syria war > Difficulty of proving chemical weapons > Syria's internally displaced > "This is also an > international problem, and it's very much my hope to continue to work > with all the various parties involved, including Turkey, to find a > solution that brings peace to Syria, stabilizes the region, stabilizes > those chemical weapons, but it's not gonna be something that the United > States does by itself, and I don't think anybody in the region, > including the prime minister, would think that U.S. unilateral actions > in and of themselves would bring about a better outcome inside -- inside of > Syria." > Diplomatic moves > On Wednesday, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a resolution > calling for a political transition in Syria. > The resolution, which > passed by a 107-12 vote, with 59 abstentions, also condemned the > government's increased use of heavy weapons and ongoing "widespread and > systematic gross violations of human rights and fundamental freedoms," > said a U.N. statement. > It was the fifth resolution on Syria voted by the body since 2011. > "If we are unable to do > anything to stop this tragedy, then how can we sustain the moral > credibility of this organization?" Assembly President Vuk Jeremic said > before the vote, according to the statement. > Meanwhile, in Sweden, > U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey > Lavrov discussed the revival of a peace initiative based on last year's > Geneva conference. > That conference, brokered by Russia and the United States, outlined how a > transitional government could be formed in Syria. > "I think it's fair to > say that both of us are confident about the direction that we're moving > in and very, very hopeful that within a short period of time, the pieces > will have come together fully so that the world, hopefully, will have > an opportunity to be given an alternative to the violence and > destruction that is taking place in Syria at this moment," Kerry said. > Lavrov cited the Russian-American proposal to convene a conference to start > implementing the Geneva communique last June. > "It's self-explanatory, > and what we need now is to mobilize support for this initiative on the > basis of what was, I believe, in Geneva and what was proposed by > Washington and Moscow: to mobilize support, first of all, by all the > Syrian groups, the regime and all opposition groups; and second, by > those outside actors who have influence on either one or the other > Syrian group," Lavrov said. > Obama and Erdogan addressed the Geneva initiative. > "I do think that the > prospect of talks in Geneva involving the Russians and representatives > about a serious political transition that all parties can buy into may > yield results," Obama said. > Erdogan said that "we > will continue to explore what we can do together, what we can consider > as part of a road map looking at Geneva and beyond." > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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