Teddy kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut dlm rangka nutup2in kebejadan dan kebiadabn orang Islam dan Islam.
Ga bisa bantah bhw orang Islam udah bikin amburadul negara2 Eropa di manapun mereka berada, bukan? Tuh, gua ga bilang cuma Scandinavia, tp jg negara eropa lainnya. On 5/26/13, Teddy S. <[email protected]> wrote: > Itu membuktikan kedogolan lu karena pengetahuan lu sangat cetek. > Sudah begitu lu ini manusia malas yang mau minta disuapi informasi. > Cari data yang becus sebelum kaing-kaing dan itu yang namanya riset dan > bukannya buka bacot sembarangan untuk main fitnah. Kalau lu sering memfitnah > orang, sudah sangat layak dan sewajarnya juga lu difitnah orang. Tangan > mencencang bahu memikul. mata ganti mata, gigi ganti gigi. > > Kalau lu kagak punya kemampuan begitu, mendingan lu bantu ngitung duit hasil > persepuluhan gereja lu aja. > > > --- In [email protected], itemabu2 <itemabu2@...> wrote: >> >> Si tolol ini ga ngerti gua lg ngomongin wawasannya yg ga beda dgn ibu2 >> pejabat koruptor yg tukang belanja. Jadi dia kaing2nya jg ga beda dgn >> ibu2 pejabat tsb yg mentang2 berduit, maka duitnya dipake bersenang2 >> belanja, cuma ngomongin soal belanja barang. >> >> UDah moral rendah, penjilat pantat, si Teddy jg ga punya wawasan sama >> sekali. >> >> Lu ambil contoh Finlandia, artinya negara Scandinavia yg lain, >> Denmark, Swedia dan Norwegia itu amburadul krn orang Islam, bukan? >> >> >> >> >> On 5/25/13, Teddy S. <teddyr@...> wrote: >> > Seperti gua pernah bilang duit itu bisa dipakai untuk bersenang-senang. >> > Kalau gua senang belanja barang-barang berkualitas tinggi, apa >> > urusannya >> > sama lu atau orang lain? Wong gua belanja pakai duit gua sendiri dan >> > itu >> > bukannya dapat dari sebagian perpuluhan ataupun hasil sedekah orang >> > lain. >> > >> > Dasar manusia idiot yang tidak bisa menggunakan peluang yang ada di >> > Indonesia. Gua yang cuma sekali-sekali datang ke Indonesia aja sudah >> > bisa >> > merasakan adanya perubahan dari semakin mahalnya harga makanan yang >> > berarti >> > orang yang mampu semakin banyak jumlahnya, sedikitnya di pulau Jawa. >> > Sekarang sudah ditulis ramai di koran-koran Indonesia bahwa jumlah >> > orang >> > kelas menengah Indonesia bertambah sangat banyak hingga bule-bule pada >> > ramai >> > datang mau memanfaatkan pangsa pasar yang ada. Jadi pendapat gua dulu >> > itu >> > tidak salah. Yang goblog adalah lu yang tinggal di Indonesia tapi tidak >> > bisa >> > memanfaatkan peluang yang sebelumnya untuk meningkatkan kemakmuran >> > diri. >> > >> > Lu bikin pernyataan berikut: >> > >> > ngebantah >> >> bhw negara Scandinavia jadi amburadul gara2 orang Islam? >> >> >> > >> > Sekarang gua ambil contoh Finlandia yang merupakan alah satu negara >> > Skandinavia. Coba lu bawa bukti amburadulnya Finlandia gara-gara orang >> > Islam. >> > >> > Kalau lu sampai tidak bisa bawa bukti, maka ini untuk kesekian kalinya >> > lu >> > cuma jadi tukang fitnah di milis ini. Lu ini cuma provokator murahan >> > yang >> > dibayar orang. >> > >> > >> > --- In [email protected], itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Teddy ini kaing2 soal belanja barang, nunjukin wawasannya ga lbh dr >> >> wawasan ibu2 pejabat tukang ngabis2in duit hasil korupsi suaminya. >> >> >> >> Ketololan si Teddy ini bisa dilihat dr ocehannya yg bilang krn harga >> >> makanan di kota besar di Indonesia sdh hampir sama dgn di Australia, >> >> maka orang Indonesia sdh makmur. Padahal banyak orang Indonesia yg >> >> makan cuma 1x sehari, makan nasi aking, dll >> >> >> >> Ga heran kalo kaing2nya dlm rangka ngebela majikannya sbg anjing buduk >> >> piaraan yg setia itu sama sekali ga nyambung. >> >> >> >> Apa ada seekor muslim atau anjing buduk piaraan mereka yg bs ngebantah >> >> bhw negara Scandinavia jadi amburadul gara2 orang Islam? >> >> >> >> >> >> On 5/24/13, Teddy S. <teddyr@> wrote: >> >> > He he he ... >> >> > >> >> > Kalau punya barang itu ya dipilih-pilih dan harus tahu di mana bisa >> >> > belinya >> >> > semurah mungkin. Ngapain punya barang-barang jelek. >> >> > >> >> > Sekarang lu boleh bantu junjungan lu yang sudah gua sudah sodori >> >> > fakta >> >> > di >> >> > bawah ini. >> >> > >> >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/387184 >> >> > >> >> > Terbukti lagi kalau lu sudah memfitnah lagi. >> >> > >> >> > Makanya gua bilang lu jangan asal menghayal doang. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --- In [email protected], itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Si Teddy ini kaing2 ga keruan, ngoceh soal belanja barang di >> >> >> Stockholm, persis kayak ibu2 pejabat koruptor yg bisa belanja sampe >> >> >> satu pesawat. Jadi wawasan si Teddy ga beda dgn ibu2 pejabat yg >> >> >> cuma >> >> >> becus dandan dan belanja doang. >> >> >> >> >> >> Ini yg dinamakan anjing buduk ompong lg kaing2 coba ngebela >> >> >> majikannya >> >> >> orang Islam, cuma bs kaing2 ga bisa ngadu argumen dgn benar. >> >> >> >> >> >> Apa ada seekor muslim atau anjing buduk piaraan mereka yg bs >> >> >> ngebantah >> >> >> bhw negara Scandinavia jadi amburadul gara2 orang Islam? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 5/24/13, Teddy S. <teddyr@> wrote: >> >> >> > He he he ... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Belum apa-apa lu sudah ngerasa sendiri. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Berdasarkan pengakuan lu sendiri, lu itu suka salah baca seperti >> >> >> > pada >> >> >> > kejadian sebelumnya. Jadi dengan seringnya lu salah baca dan >> >> >> > modal >> >> >> > lu >> >> >> > cuma >> >> >> > ini doang, maka dengan demikian pernyataan lu itu belum tentu >> >> >> > akurat. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Orang jalan-jalan itu untuk dinikmati dan sekalian juga untuk >> >> >> > belanja. >> >> >> > Barang-barang di Stockholm kualitasnya prima dan bukan buatan >> >> >> > RRC. >> >> >> > Disamping itu menjelang musim panas juga suka ada potongan besar. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > --- In [email protected], itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Teddy memang hrs menunjukkan dirinya adalah anjing buduk piaraan >> >> >> >> orang >> >> >> >> Islam yg setia dgn selalu sigap membela majikannya. Dia mencoba >> >> >> >> mendiskreditkan gua dgn kaing2 gua ga pernah ke Scandinavia shg >> >> >> >> gua >> >> >> >> ga >> >> >> >> tau apa yg tjd di sana. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Cuma orang tolol aja yg bilang bhw unt tau keadaan sebuah negara >> >> >> >> secara umum itu hrs pergi ke negara tsb. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sebaliknya, banyak orang tolol yg sesumbar udah pergi ke manca >> >> >> >> negara, >> >> >> >> tp cuma tau kulitnya ttg negara2 yg dikunjunginya, cuma tau >> >> >> >> sebatas >> >> >> >> harga taksi, hotel, cafe dll, ga tau apa yg ada di belakangnya >> >> >> >> sama >> >> >> >> sekali. Di milis ini, bisa dibilang orang2 yg suka sesumbar udah >> >> >> >> ke >> >> >> >> manca negara termasuk ke dlm golongan ini. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 5/22/13, Teddy S. <teddyr@> wrote: >> >> >> >> > He he he ... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Swedia dan negara2 Scandinavia sebelumnya termasuk sbg negara >> >> >> >> >> paling >> >> >> >> >> aman sedunia. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Lu ngomong gitu emangnya lu sudah pernah ke Swedia atau >> >> >> >> > negara-negara >> >> >> >> > Skandinavia lainnya? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > --- In [email protected], itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Swedia dan negara2 Scandinavia sebelumnya termasuk sbg negara >> >> >> >> >> paling >> >> >> >> >> aman sedunia. Sekarang, negara2 itu dipenuhi sampah2 >> >> >> >> >> masyarakat, >> >> >> >> >> kriminal dan bajingan berbentuk orang Islam, orang2 Islam >> >> >> >> >> jadi >> >> >> >> >> tukang >> >> >> >> >> merkosa, tukang tipu, rampok dll. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Kejadian orang2 Islam bikin rusuh udah terjadi di Swedia, >> >> >> >> >> mirip >> >> >> >> >> dgn >> >> >> >> >> apa yg tjd di Perancis yg udah merupakan "ritual" tahunan. >> >> >> >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> >> gua >> >> >> >> >> rasa, kerusuhan di Swedia ini jg akan jadi "ritual" tahunan, >> >> >> >> >> jg >> >> >> >> >> di >> >> >> >> >> negara2 Eropa lainnya. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dari buahnya, kita tahu asalnya spt apa. Dr kelakuan orang2 >> >> >> >> >> Islam >> >> >> >> >> ini, >> >> >> >> >> kita tahu spt apa ajaran Islam. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-bawer/gangs-of-youths-overrun-stockholm/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Gangs of `Youths' Overrun Stockholm >> >> >> >> >> May 22, 2013 By Bruce Bawer Comments (18) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Husby is a neighborhood in western Stockholm which in 2007 >> >> >> >> >> had >> >> >> >> >> just >> >> >> >> >> over 11,000 inhabitants, fully 81.9% of whom were immigrants >> >> >> >> >> or >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> children of immigrants. The other interesting fact in the >> >> >> >> >> brief >> >> >> >> >> Wikipedia entry on Husby is that the area contains "many >> >> >> >> >> runestones…remnants from when Vikings used to live here." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> There are, alas, few other signs of the area's Viking >> >> >> >> >> heritage. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The story begins on May 14, when Stockholm police were forced >> >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> shoot >> >> >> >> >> a man who was wielding a machete at them. He died. The cops >> >> >> >> >> were >> >> >> >> >> immediately accused of police brutality. A "community group" >> >> >> >> >> called >> >> >> >> >> Megafonen urged locals to demonstrate "for social justice and >> >> >> >> >> again >> >> >> >> >> st >> >> >> >> >> police violence." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Last Sunday evening, apparently acting upon this suggestion, >> >> >> >> >> Husby >> >> >> >> >> erupted in the kind of wide-scale "youth" violence that has >> >> >> >> >> plagued >> >> >> >> >> suburbs in France and elsewhere for years. A school, a >> >> >> >> >> garage, >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> almost 100 cars were set on fire. And a gang attacked a cop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Monday evening, in further accordance with the Gallic >> >> >> >> >> precedent, >> >> >> >> >> things got even worse. Chaos reigned. Different reports >> >> >> >> >> provided >> >> >> >> >> different details, some of them sketchy. There were >> >> >> >> >> explosions. >> >> >> >> >> As >> >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> >> 9:36 PM Monday, Stockholm time, it was being reported that >> >> >> >> >> police >> >> >> >> >> officers were "running for their lives from youth gangs." >> >> >> >> >> Twenty >> >> >> >> >> or >> >> >> >> >> so >> >> >> >> >> masked "youths" threw rocks at police officers and >> >> >> >> >> firefighters. >> >> >> >> >> A >> >> >> >> >> reporter for the newspaper Expressen narrowly missed being hit >> >> >> >> >> by >> >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> >> metal pipe. One report mentioned "youths" stealing fire >> >> >> >> >> hoses. >> >> >> >> >> When >> >> >> >> >> "youths" set fire to a parking garage, police had to evacuate >> >> >> >> >> fifty >> >> >> >> >> people from a nearby apartment house. Four or five "youths" >> >> >> >> >> beat >> >> >> >> >> up >> >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> >> cop on a bridge before he managed to flee. As he ran off, a >> >> >> >> >> girl >> >> >> >> >> could >> >> >> >> >> be heard laughing and shouting "Allah akbar!" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In Husby, at least three police cars were reported to have >> >> >> >> >> been >> >> >> >> >> vandalized. Meanwhile reports began to come in of cars on >> >> >> >> >> fire >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> other parts of western Stockholm. "The situation is >> >> >> >> >> escalating >> >> >> >> >> constantly," a police spokesperson said on Monday evening. >> >> >> >> >> Late >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> night, The Local reported that over 100 cars had been set on >> >> >> >> >> fire >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> Husby and that a local shopping center had been vandalized, >> >> >> >> >> causing >> >> >> >> >> injury to three police officers. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Although Megafonen had itself urged its readers to >> >> >> >> >> demonstrate >> >> >> >> >> against >> >> >> >> >> police violence, it "explained" the rioting, in one >> >> >> >> >> statement, >> >> >> >> >> as >> >> >> >> >> an >> >> >> >> >> expression of frustration over high unemployment. "There is a >> >> >> >> >> great >> >> >> >> >> deal of hopelessness and powerlessness among the young people >> >> >> >> >> here," >> >> >> >> >> read a comment by the organization, which added that it was >> >> >> >> >> important >> >> >> >> >> to "understand" the root causes of the rioting "and to find >> >> >> >> >> out >> >> >> >> >> what >> >> >> >> >> we can do" to make things better. In what seemed to be a >> >> >> >> >> contradiction, Megafonen spokesperson Rami Al-Kamisi called >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> rioting a "reaction to police brutality against citizens, our >> >> >> >> >> neighbors," and said: "We understand that people react like >> >> >> >> >> this." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In Norway, Ragnhild Bjørnebekk, who works at the Oslo Police >> >> >> >> >> College >> >> >> >> >> as a "violence researcher" (in the otherwise stagnant >> >> >> >> >> European >> >> >> >> >> economy, there's a growth field if I ever heard of one) said >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> rioting in Husby is only the latest of several "youth >> >> >> >> >> disturbances" >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> Europe sparked by "suspicions of police violence." (Yes, you >> >> >> >> >> know >> >> >> >> >> those trigger-happy Scandinavian police.) Mentioning riots >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> had >> >> >> >> >> taken place in recent years in Greece, Gothenberg, Malmö, >> >> >> >> >> Copenhagen, >> >> >> >> >> and various French cities, Bjørnebekk attributed them all to >> >> >> >> >> anger >> >> >> >> >> over police conduct. ("Allah akbar," of course, is Arabic for >> >> >> >> >> "Down >> >> >> >> >> with police brutality.") Still, Bjørnebekk found it important >> >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> mention that this kind of rioting is a relatively new >> >> >> >> >> phenomenon >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> northern Europe. "Setting fire to cars and trash containers >> >> >> >> >> during >> >> >> >> >> riots is typical of countries like France and Greece, but >> >> >> >> >> unusual >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> the Nordic countries," Bjørnebekk said. (As if differences >> >> >> >> >> between >> >> >> >> >> Scandinavian and Mediterranean cultures had the slightest >> >> >> >> >> thing >> >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> >> with any of this!) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To be sure, Bjørnebekk was right in suggesting that nightly >> >> >> >> >> car-burnings and the like are still not a fixed part of the >> >> >> >> >> cultural >> >> >> >> >> landscape in the Nordic countries as they are on the >> >> >> >> >> outskirts >> >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> >> Paris, Marseilles, and so on. Yes, there are stabbings, >> >> >> >> >> rapes, >> >> >> >> >> gay-bashings, Jew-bashings, acts of vandalism, and other gang >> >> >> >> >> activity >> >> >> >> >> aplenty; non-Muslims who live in certain parts of Stockholm, >> >> >> >> >> Malmö, >> >> >> >> >> Copenhagen, and (increasingly) Oslo are systematically >> >> >> >> >> tormented >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> schools and on the streets by "youths" who seem to grow >> >> >> >> >> bolder >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> more aggressive by the year. And yes, there have been "youth" >> >> >> >> >> riots >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> Scandinavia: on a couple of nights in January 2009, a violent >> >> >> >> >> mob >> >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> >> "youths" descended on downtown Oslo and smashed in the front >> >> >> >> >> windows >> >> >> >> >> of businesses in an area of several square blocks, >> >> >> >> >> effectively >> >> >> >> >> paralyzing the very heart of the city. The rioting, which was >> >> >> >> >> supposedly a response to Israeli actions in Gaza (and which >> >> >> >> >> has >> >> >> >> >> pretty >> >> >> >> >> much been dropped down the memory hole), stretched police >> >> >> >> >> resources >> >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> the limit. But no, I guess it's fair to say, as Bjørnebekk >> >> >> >> >> does, >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> so far regular car-burnings haven't been a major element of >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> Nordic >> >> >> >> >> mix. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> As is usual, of course, in such cases, Swedish media reports >> >> >> >> >> on >> >> >> >> >> Monday >> >> >> >> >> night were almost uniformly careful to avoid using any word >> >> >> >> >> other >> >> >> >> >> than >> >> >> >> >> "youths" (or some equally innocuous term) to characterize the >> >> >> >> >> perpetrators of the violence. Although here and there between >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> lines it was clear enough what was going on, there was >> >> >> >> >> nothing >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> could really put your finger on until Dagbladet – the >> >> >> >> >> Norwegian >> >> >> >> >> one, >> >> >> >> >> note, not the Swedish one – dared to mention that girl >> >> >> >> >> shouting >> >> >> >> >> "Allah >> >> >> >> >> akbar!" By Tuesday morning, the Swedish media, while >> >> >> >> >> providing >> >> >> >> >> reasonably extensive coverage of the night's events, seemed >> >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> be >> >> >> >> >> making an effort to suggest that it hadn't really been all >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> bad >> >> >> >> >> and to emphasize that, in any event, things had now quieted >> >> >> >> >> down. >> >> >> >> >> I >> >> >> >> >> did a pretty thorough online search of the major Swedish >> >> >> >> >> media, >> >> >> >> >> but >> >> >> >> >> couldn't find any report on the rioting that included the >> >> >> >> >> word >> >> >> >> >> Islam >> >> >> >> >> or Muslim or any reference to the girl who shouted "Allah >> >> >> >> >> akbar!" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The emphasis was, shall we say, on other matters. One article >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> Expressen, for example, focused on the fact that a policeman >> >> >> >> >> had >> >> >> >> >> actually – gasp – dared to draw his weapon during the hubbub. >> >> >> >> >> (The >> >> >> >> >> paper actually had a video of this horrible act.) The cop put >> >> >> >> >> his >> >> >> >> >> gun >> >> >> >> >> back after being informed that the rioter he was aiming at >> >> >> >> >> was >> >> >> >> >> only >> >> >> >> >> thirteen years old. (Police later told VG that several of the >> >> >> >> >> participants in the evening's festivities were as young as >> >> >> >> >> twelve.) >> >> >> >> >> On >> >> >> >> >> Tuesday morning, Megafon held a "well-attended" press >> >> >> >> >> conference >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> obvious intention of which was to turn the criminals into >> >> >> >> >> victims >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> the police into villains. The organization accused the police >> >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> >> deploying "excessive force" against the rioters; one speaker >> >> >> >> >> added >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> charge that cops, during the rampage, had used offensive >> >> >> >> >> language >> >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> describe immigrant-group members. Another speaker asked: "Who >> >> >> >> >> should >> >> >> >> >> you call when it's the police who attack? I have no idea." >> >> >> >> >> The >> >> >> >> >> meme >> >> >> >> >> that it had all been the fault of police overreach quickly >> >> >> >> >> established >> >> >> >> >> itself, with Norway's Aftenposten stressing laments by >> >> >> >> >> Stockholm >> >> >> >> >> "youth" that the police are never punished for their abuse of >> >> >> >> >> power, >> >> >> >> >> while the "youth" are always blamed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Meanwhile, a police officer who has worked for many years in >> >> >> >> >> western >> >> >> >> >> Stockholm (and who apparently preferred not to be identified) >> >> >> >> >> told >> >> >> >> >> Aftonbladet that the rioting, though horrible, amounted to "a >> >> >> >> >> typical >> >> >> >> >> day on the job." He added: "People generally have no idea how >> >> >> >> >> serious >> >> >> >> >> it is, but there have been so many incidents in the past year >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> I'm >> >> >> >> >> sure it'll end up with a police officer being killed." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The latest reports, at this writing, confirm that all this is >> >> >> >> >> plainly >> >> >> >> >> only the beginnning. The early hours of Wednesday morning saw >> >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> >> new >> >> >> >> >> round of stories in the Scandinavian papers announcing that >> >> >> >> >> Stockholm >> >> >> >> >> was being beset by riots for the third night in a row. Among >> >> >> >> >> much >> >> >> >> >> else, stones had been thrown at a police station and a school >> >> >> >> >> had >> >> >> >> >> been >> >> >> >> >> set on fire. The rioting, moreover, had spread even further, >> >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> several other parts of the city that had been previously >> >> >> >> >> unaffected. >> >> >> >> >> Brief video here. Stay tuned. There will certainly be more >> >> >> >> >> developments on this front in the days to come. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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