On 17 May 06, at 8:25, justjoiningthetribes wrote:
> Terbongkar sudah kedok, seorang murtadin Ayaan Hirsi Ali, yang selalu
> mengkritik Islam di Belanda.
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Terbongkar kedoknya?
Ni orang sungguh débil.
Sudah tahunan dia bilang didepan umum bahwa dia, ketika minta
suaka, memakai nama ibunya (Ali) dan bukan nama bapaknya....
Dan dia jelaskan kenapa...
> Ternyata dia berbohong untuk bisa mendapatkan asylum di Belanda.
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> Dan bagaimana dengan MARLENE VAN DOORN'S jusfiq hadjar (66 thn) yang
> juga seorang murtadin, apakah kebohongannya akan segera terbongkar?
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> Ini persis sama dengan kasus orang2 non-muslim yang mencoba
> mendapatkan asylum di Amerika dengan ngibul tentang pemerkosaan etnis
> tionghoa oleh orang2 Islam (yang tidak pernah terbukti), atau orang2
> papua yang ngibul tentang genocide di Papua.
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> Kisah hidup Ayaan Hirsi Ali ini sangat mirip dengan MARLENE VAN
> DOORN'S jusfiq hadjar (66 thn), murtad, nyari asylum di negara
> Belanda,
Fitnah.....
Saya tidak pernah minta asylum ke negeri Belanda.
> dan untuk bisa hidup, mereka pun mencaci-maki Islam dan
> menjadi pengkritik Islam yang paling keras. Kalau Ayaan melalui
> lembaga dan partai, tapi MARLENE VAN DOORN'S jusfiq hadjar sejauh ini
> kayaknya jangkauannya baru internet (milis islamkristen)
>
Hirsyi Ali terpilih sebagai anggota Parlemen...
> Sebaiknya kita segera memberitahukan pemerintah Belanda, untuk
> menyelidiki dokumen2 MARLENE VAN DOORN'S jusfiq hadjar (66 thn), dan
> aktivitasnya selama ini yang mana biaya hidupnya disupport oleh
> Belanda.
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> Pemerintah Belanda yang sedang mengkampanyekan integrasi umat Islam di
> Belanda itu akan senang sekali, kalau MARLENE VAN DOORN'S jusfiq
> hadjar ini diberitahu keberadaannya untuk diselidiki.
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> Menarik sekali apa yang dikatakan Rita Verdonk, menteri keimigrasian
> Belanda: "Laws and rules are valid for everyone," she was quoted as
> saying by the Dutch news agency ANP. "I don't like lies."
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> MP in immigration row to leave Netherlands
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> · Somali-born politician admits lying to get asylum
> · Attack on radical Islam fed debate on integration
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> Nicholas Watt, European editor
> Tuesday May 16, 2006
> The Guardian
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> Ayaan Hirsi Ali
> Leaders of the VVD party - which wants tough immigration restrictions
> - have used Ayaan Hirsi Ali's membership to deny racism claims.
> Photograph: Fred Ernst/AP
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> A Somali-born Dutch MP who came to symbolise the Netherlands' troubled
> relations with Islam is planning to leave her adopted country and
> settle in the United States.
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> Ayaan Hirsi Ali is expected to announce today that she will resign as
> an MP, days after a television programme accused her of lying in 1992
> in order to secure Dutch nationality.
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> Ms Hirsi Ali, a fierce critic of radical Islam who lives under armed
> guard, wants to pre-empt any move by the Netherlands' tough
> immigration minister to strip her of Dutch citizenship.
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> Article continues
> The government turned on Ms Hirsi Ali after a television documentary
> reported that she had secured Dutch citizenship in 1997 by making up a
> story that she had fled an arranged marriage in Somalia. Members of Ms
> Hirsi Ali's family told the Zembla television programme last Thursday
> that they had no knowledge of an arranged marriage.
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> The 30-minute programme also questioned her claims that she fled
> wartorn Somalia. It said that she lived in a comfortable family home
> in Kenya for 12 years before she sought refugee status in the
> Netherlands in 1992.
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> Ms Hirsi Ali, 36, whose real name is Hirsi Magan, admitted in the
> programme that she lied about her name, age and how she came to the
> Netherlands. Rather than travelling directly from Somalia, as she
> originally claimed, Ms Hirsi Ali arrived via Kenya and Germany.
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> Over the weekend she dismissed the political furore. "Have they all
> gone mad? Yes, I did lie to get asylum in Holland. This is public
> knowledge since at least September 2002," she told the Associated
> Press.
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> The television programme has rocked the Dutch political establishment
> because Ms Hirsi Ali became one of the country's most prominent
> politicians after denouncing radical Islam. She became famous
> internationally after writing the screenplay for a film which featured
> naked women with verses from the Koran painted on their bodies. Theo
> Van Gogh, the film's director, was murdered by a radical Islamist.
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> A member of the hard-right VVD party, which wants to impose
> restrictions on the number of immigrants, Ms Hirsi Ali regularly
> criticises the treatment of Muslim women and attacks the Netherlands'
> liberal immigration policies. With her Muslim background, which she
> has renounced, Ms Hirsi Ali was an influential figure as the
> Netherlands debated the integration of Muslim immigrants.
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> The death of Van Gogh prompted many mainstream political leaders to
> voice fears that the country's liberal traditions were being
> threatened by Muslims who refused to integrate. Ms Hirsi Ali, who
> dismisses such politicians for failing to acknowledge the threat posed
> by Islamists, has provided useful political cover for the VVD party.
> Its leaders use her membership to deny accusations of racism.
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> But political allies quickly turned on Ms Hirsi Ali after last week's
> television programme.
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> Rita Verdonk, the country's immigration minister who hopes to be the
> VVD's candidate for prime minister in next year's general election,
> said she would launch an investigation into Ms Hirsi Ali's
> citizenship. "Laws and rules are valid for everyone," she was quoted
> as saying by the Dutch news agency ANP. "I don't like lies."
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> Ms Hirsi Ali will today pre-empt Ms Verdonk. The Volkskrant newspaper
> reported yesterday that she would start working for the conservative
> American Enterprise Institute in September after receiving assurances
> from the US authorities about her security.
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> A source close to the outgoing MP indicated she would come out
> fighting when she appears before the press in The Hague today and
> insist that she has been planning a move for some time. A recent court
> ruling that she would have to leave her flat - after fellow residents
> claimed that her presence threatened security - and the threat to her
> citizenship reportedly persuaded her to move. "Ayaan is definitely not
> going to say sorry," the source said.
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> Backstory
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> Ayaan Hirsi Ali became one of the main figures in the Dutch debate
> about Muslim integration that was kicked off by her friend Pim
> Fortuyn, who warned that liberal traditions were being threatened by
> the "backwards culture" of Islam. The debate intensified - after
> Fortuyn was killed by an animal rights activist - when an Islamist
> murdered another of Hirsi Ali's friends, the director Theo van Gogh.
> The success of Fortuyn's party and horror at the death of Van Gogh
> have changed the terms of debate. Mainstream politicians regularly
> call on Muslims to do more to integrate.
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