*WHEN?* *Thomas Roper 1*
The next time you are approached by a Christian missionary you might think about asking him, or her, the question listed below. I should add that my experience, as a Baptist pastor, has shown you probably will not receive a very intelligent response. I have a question for those who believe that one must "accept Jesus" as messiah, G-d, and the son of G-d, in order to "be saved." At what point in history did this become necessary? · Was it at the time that Jesus was born? · Was it when he began his ministry? · Was it when he was crucified? o Was it when, according to Christian teachings, he "arose from the dead?" o Was it when, according to Christian teachings, he "ascended to heaven?" *WHEN??* If it was at one of those points, say for example when he was crucified, did a person in China who died the next day, go to hell because he had not accepted Jesus as savior? In other words: Is it or is it not, necessary for one to accept Jesus as G-d, in order to please G-d? If so, "when ― at what point in time ― did it become necessary?" Footnote: 1. Mr. Roper is a former Southern Baptist pastor who converted to Orthodox Judaism. He resides in Virginia Beach, VA. -- Brief CV of Jusfiq Hadjar Jusfiq Hadjar, a christian, 66 years old, is an Indonesian living in the Netherlands. He currently lives together out of wed-lock with Marlene Van Doorn - a documentalist in African Studies Center (ASC) library - in Leiden. Jusfiq Hadjar has, thus far, succesfully deceived many NGOs into believing that he is a human rights activistist. One of the NGOs that has been trapped in his lies is a Muslim human rights group, the Movement against Racism and for Friendship among Peoples. Jusfiq Hadjar is very active in his campaigns against Islam and Muslims on the Internet, especially in several Indonesian mailing lists. He will spread massive amounts of offensive, slanderous, lying statements against Islam and Muslims day in and day out and at the same time claiming that he is a Muslim. Undoubtedly, Jusfiq Hadjar is one of those people who still thinks that adhering to a daily routine of cursing and swearing on the Internet would help to make him look intelligent and preserve his sanity. It shoots no wonder then if you find mosts of his writings on the Internet are just about cursing and swearing at Muslims and licking the ass of his christian friends. Jusfiq Hadjar has joined several mailing lists in order to spread his severe hatred against Islam and Muslim on the Internet: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/islamkristen/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apakabar/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/minangnet/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/istiqlal/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/partai-keadilan/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ijtihad/<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/partai-keadilan/> Marlene Van Doorn is very supportive of his life partner's evil activities on the Internet, and gives her financial support by providing him with meals, accomodation and Internet connection. He is also allegedly financed by Leiden church. He has no children. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Zo.u8A/lOaOAA/Zx0JAA/uTGrlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
