Yesus mati di tiang salib itu, menurut tulisan hasil research ini, merupakan manipulasi sejarah oleh tetua gereja yang telah berlangsung ribuan tahun.
----- Original Message ----- From: "fred call" >;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, June 26, 2006 23:00 Baigent: I think it's more likely that they raised the sponge with some kind of anesthetic, which knocked Jesus out, which would reduce the trauma and make it easier for him to survive. James: What do you think those drugs might have been? Baigent: Well, they used hashish, opium, belladonna. There was a mixture of drugs. James: Indeed, somebody could die after a matter of hours instead of several days? Baigent: They could. But I think by giving someone a drug to render them unconscious would reduce this trauma and I think this is a significant factor in the Gospel account. Baigent: When Joseph of Arimathea goes to Pilate and asks for Jesus' body to take down from the cross, he asks for the "soma" of Jesus-Which means the living body. Pilate allows Joseph to take the body. But he uses the word "ptoma" which means the corpse, the dead body. Baigent: They bring him down from the cross, they get him as quickly as possible into the tomb where under the cover of darkness, they return with drugs to treat any bleeding which may have occurred and to try to revive him. Baigent: They weren't embalming spices. James: The spices they took to the tomb weren't the kinds of things they would be taking if Jesus were dead? Baigent: Exactly. James: So you're saying they were going to deal with an injured Jesus rather than a Jesus who had perished? That's not the way the Gospels read. Baigent: That's the way the Gospels read if you read them closely. The Jesus Papers : Exposing the Greatest Cover-Up in History (Hardcover) by Michael Baigent Editorial Reviews Book Description What if everything you think you know about Jesus is wrong? In The Jesus Papers, Michael Baigent reveals the truth about Jesus's life and crucifixion. Despite -- or rather because of -- all the celebration and veneration that have surrounded the figure of Jesus for centuries, Baigent asserts that Jesus and the circumstances leading to his death have been heavily mythologized. As a religious historian and a leading expert in the field of arcane knowledge, Baigent has unequaled access to hidden archives, secret societies, Masonic records, and the private collections of antiquities traders and their moneyed clients. Using that access to full advantage, Baigent explores the religious and political climate in which Jesus was born and raised, examining not only the conflicts between the Romans and the Jews, but the strife within the different factions of the Jewish Zealot movement. He chronicles the migrations of Jesus's family, his subsequent exposure to other cultures, and the events, teachings, and influences that were most likely to have shaped his early years. Baigent also uncovers the inconsistencies and biases in the accounts of the major historians of Jesus's time, including Josephus, Pliny, and Tacitus. The enduring influence of these accounts in forming our most common conceptions of Jesus reveals that spin is not a new phenomenon. Taking us back to sites that over the last twenty years he has meticulously explored, studied, and in some instances excavated for the first time, Baigent provides a detailed account of his groundbreaking discoveries, including many never-before-seen photos. The evidence he has uncovered has lead him to make shocking new assertions that threaten the conventional account of Jesus's life and death and shake the very foundation of Western thought, based as it is upon the assumption of Jesus's divinity. Ultimately, his investigation raises the hope that we may gain a new understanding of Jesus. O ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/uTGrlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
