------------------------------ New Testament Contradictions Paul Carlson (1995) II. JESUS AND JOHN THE BAPTIST A. WHAT DID JOHN THE BAPTIST KNOW ABOUT JESUS AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?
John's first encounter with Jesus was while both of them were still in their mothers' wombs, at which time John, apparently recognizing his Saviour, leaped for joy (Luke 1:44). Much later, while John is baptizing, he refers to Jesus as "the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world", and "the Son of God" (John 1:29,36). Later still, John is thrown in prison from which he does not return alive. John's definite knowledge of Jesus as the son of God and saviour of the world is explicitly contradicted by Luke 7:18-23 in which the imprisoned John sends two of his disciples to ask Jesus, "Are you the one who is coming, or do we look for someone else?" B. WHY DID JOHN BAPTIZE JESUS? John baptized for repentance (Matthew 3:11). Since Jesus was supposedly without sin, he had nothing to repent of. The fact that he was baptized by John has always been an embarrassment to the church. The gospels offer no explanation for Jesus' baptism, apart from the meaningless explanation given in Matthew 3:14-15 "to fulfill all righteousness." Other passages, which indicate that Jesus did not consider himself sinless, are also an embarrassment to the church (Mark 10:18, Luke 18:19). Luke, who claims to be chronological (Luke 1:3), tries to give the impression that John did not baptize Jesus. Luke's account of Jesus' baptism occurs after the account of John's imprisonment (Luke 3:20-21). C. WHY DIDN'T JOHN THE BAPTIST BECOME A FOLLOWER OF JESUS? If John knew that Jesus was the son of God, why didn't he become a disciple of Jesus? And why didn't all, or even most, of John's disciples become Jesus' disciples? Most of John's disciples remained loyal to him, even after his death, and a sect of his followers persisted for centuries. The gospel writers were forced to include Jesus' baptism in their gospels so that they could play it down. They could not ignore it because John's followers and other Jews who knew of Jesus' baptism were using the fact of his baptism to challenge the idea that Jesus was the sinless son of God. The gospel writers went to great pains to invent events that showed John as being subordinate to Jesus. . --- Brief CV of Jusfiq Hadjar Jusfiq Hadjar, a christian, 66 years old, is an Indonesian living in the Netherlands. He currently lives together out of wed-lock with Marlene Van Doorn - a documentalist in African Studies Center (ASC) library - in Leiden. Jusfiq Hadjar has, thus far, succesfully deceived many NGOs into believing that he is a human rights activistist. One of the NGOs that has been trapped in his lies is a Muslim human rights group, the Movement against Racism and for Friendship among Peoples. Jusfiq Hadjar is very active in his campaigns against Islam and Muslims on the Internet, especially in several Indonesian mailing lists. He will spread massive amounts of offensive, slanderous, lying statements against Islam and Muslims day in and day out and at the same time claiming that he is a Muslim. Undoubtedly, Jusfiq Hadjar is one of those people who still thinks that adhering to a daily routine of cursing and swearing on the Internet would help to make him look intelligent and preserve his sanity. It shoots no wonder then if you find mosts of his writings on the Internet are just about cursing and swearing at Muslims and licking the ass of his christian friends. Jusfiq Hadjar has joined several mailing lists in order to spread his severe hatred against Islam and Muslim on the Internet: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/islamkristen/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apakabar/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/minangnet/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/istiqlal/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/partai-keadilan/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ijtihad/<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/partai-keadilan/> Marlene Van Doorn is very supportive of his life partner's evil activities on the Internet, and gives her financial support by providing him with meals, accomodation and Internet connection. He is also allegedly financed by Leiden church. He has no children. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
