heuheuheu ... kemarin habis2an meremehkan burton.. jadi wansbrough muji burton habis2an atas thesisnya 'the collection of quran' .. dan diujung tulisan burton, ada kata2 penting yg membuat goncang para misionaris ... termasuk kakek jusfiq : What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad.
some quotes: Robert Hoyland : the historical memory of the Muslim community is more robust than some have claimed. John Burton: What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. jadi tidak ada ruang lagi untuk memperebatkan lagi keotentikan al quran.. al quran itu solid, dan tidak diragukan lagi bahwa itu kalam Ilahi.. bahwa quran jaman onta sama dengan jaman dimana orang dungu sudah bisa ngepost email di kampung petar ... --- In [email protected], "hadjar_wish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dungu. > > Wansbrough nggak bilang dia setuju kesimpulann Burton.. > > > --- In [email protected], "hadingrh" <hadingrh@> wrote: > > > > jadi memang senang sekali memutar balik fakta ... > > > > pendapat wansbrough mengenai thesis dr. john burton, the collection of > > the qur'an: > > > > this remarkable work is the fruit of many years' study, much > > discussion, and not a little tenacity. to my persistent efforts at > > demolition, or at least modification of his thesis, dr. burton has > > reacted by seeking even closer definition and more extensive > > documentation. its final form is truly impressive. > > > > some quotes: > > Robert Hoyland : > > the historical memory of the Muslim community is more robust than some > > have claimed. > > > > John Burton: > > What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. > > > > jadi tidak ada ruang lagi untuk memperebatkan lagi keotentikan al > > quran.. al quran itu solid, dan tidak diragukan lagi bahwa itu kalam > > Ilahi.. > > bahwa quran jaman onta sama dengan jaman dimana orang dungu sudah bisa > > ngepost email di kampung petar ... > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> wrote: > > > > > > Ni orang jelas udah kalap... > > > > > > Lha Böwering ngasih kuliah (dan interpiu di koran NRC-Handelsblad) > > > akhir tahun 2005 van Reeth nulis tahun akhir tahun 2006... > > > > > > Dan mereka mendukung Luxenberg. > > > > > > > > > Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
