Beda dengan "hadingrh" yang takut baca buku Luxenberg, saya baca dan saya mengerti tulisan Luxenberg.
Orang islam tipikal seperti "hadingrh" ini memang rata-rata takut pinter, takut tahu, takut memperluas pengetahuan, takut memperluas cakrawala. Beraninya jadi kokorban kibulan oang Arab yang bilang, tanpa bukti, al-Mushaf itu berisi wahyu Allah. --- In [email protected], "hadingrh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > bilang aja kl lu jg sebenernya kagak ngarti apa yg dibilang luxenberg > dkk ... > > pandir > > --- In [email protected], "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadingrh" <hadingrh@> wrote: > > > > > > hehehe ... tipikal pembual .. > > > tunjukin mana biblenya, mana ayat qurannya .. > > > > Baca sendiri tulisan mereka... > > > > > dan buktikan nabi muhammad pernah baca bible ... > > > > > > > Dungu. > > > > Nabi Muhammad itu cuma tokoh fiktif. > > > > > moron > > > > > > > > > some quotes: > > > pendapat wansbrough mengenai thesis dr. john burton, the collection of > > > the qur'an: > > > > > > this remarkable work is the fruit of many years' study, much > > > discussion, and not a little tenacity. to my persistent efforts at > > > demolition, or at least modification of his thesis, dr. burton has > > > reacted by seeking even closer definition and more extensive > > > documentation. its final form is truly impressive. > > > > > > Robert Hoyland : > > > the historical memory of the Muslim community is more robust than some > > > have claimed. > > > > > > John Burton: > > > What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. > > > > > > jadi tidak ada ruang lagi untuk memperdebatkan lagi keotentikan al > > > quran.. al quran itu solid, dan tidak diragukan lagi bahwa itu kalam > > > Ilahi.. > > > bahwa quran jaman onta sama dengan jaman dimana orang dungu sudah bisa > > > ngepost email di kampung petar ... > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Baca tulisan Böwering, saya bukan budak anda. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadingrh" <hadingrh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > jadi maksud lu yg apokrif itu sama dgn quran ? > > > > > coba tunjukin bukti2nya sini ... > > > > > > > > > > menurut pendapatnya jusfiq .. mana yg palsu yg kanonik apa > aprokif ? > > > > > biar si entot bisa belajar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some quotes: > > > > > pendapat wansbrough mengenai thesis dr. john burton, the > > collection of > > > > > the qur'an: > > > > > > > > > > this remarkable work is the fruit of many years' study, much > > > > > discussion, and not a little tenacity. to my persistent efforts at > > > > > demolition, or at least modification of his thesis, dr. burton has > > > > > reacted by seeking even closer definition and more extensive > > > > > documentation. its final form is truly impressive. > > > > > > > > > > Robert Hoyland : > > > > > the historical memory of the Muslim community is more robust > > than some > > > > > have claimed. > > > > > > > > > > John Burton: > > > > > What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. > > > > > > > > > > jadi tidak ada ruang lagi untuk memperdebatkan lagi keotentikan al > > > > > quran.. al quran itu solid, dan tidak diragukan lagi bahwa itu > kalam > > > > > Ilahi.. > > > > > bahwa quran jaman onta sama dengan jaman dimana orang dungu > > sudah bisa > > > > > ngepost email di kampung petar ... > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "hadingrh" yang dungu ini jelas juga berpengetahuan dangkal > kayak > > > > > > comberan dimusim kemarau di Jakarta... > > > > > > > > > > > > Dia tidak tahu bahwa tidak semua gereja dan sekte Nasrani itu > > > menerima > > > > > > Trinitas... > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, inilah yang ditunjukkan oleh Gerhard Böwering: teks Nasrani > > > yang > > > > > > dicontek al-Mushaf itu, bukan Bible kanonik, tapi Bible apokrif. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadingrh" <hadingrh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dungu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ini pemisalan orang dungu yang tidak berdasar sama sekali. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karya Luxenberg tetap mendapat dukungan dan makin > > diperlengkap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bukti bahwa al-Mushaf itu banyak nyontek dari dokumen > Nasrani > > > > makin > > > > > > > > banyak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sebaliknya .. > > > > > > > itu adalah pemisalan yg sempurna ... > > > > > > > memang, siapapun yg masih terapresiasi dgn ptolomeus maka > > > dipastikan > > > > > > > org tsb adalah pandir .. > > > > > > > sama halnya dgn luxenberg ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan itu sudah dibongkar habis di > > > > > > > http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/vowel.html > > > > > > > tanpa bisa dibantah sedikitpun oleh jusfiq .. > > > > > > > dan kalau memang islam berasal dari nasrani, > > > > > > > tentu tuhannya islam akan ada 3, > > > > > > > > > > > > "hadingrh" yang dungu ini jelas juga berpengetahuan dangkal > kayak > > > > > > comberan dimusi!m kemarau di Jakarta... > > > > > > > > > > > > Dia tidak tahu bahwa tidak semua gereja Nasrani itu menerima > > > > Trinitas... > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, inilah yang ditunjukkan oleh Gerhard Böwering, teks Nasrani > > > yang > > > > > > dicontek al-Mushaf itu, bukan Bible kanonik, tapi Bible apokrif. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yg mana islam mencampakkan dogma smcm > > > > > > > itu .. > > > > > > > tentang haman ... > > > > > > > tentang sunat ... > > > > > > > tentang ibrahim .. > > > > > > > dll .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some quotes: > > > > > > > pendapat wansbrough mengenai thesis dr. john burton, the > > > > collection of > > > > > > > the qur'an: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this remarkable work is the fruit of many years' study, much > > > > > > > discussion, and not a little tenacity. to my persistent > > efforts at > > > > > > > demolition, or at least modification of his thesis, dr. > > burton has > > > > > > > reacted by seeking even closer definition and more extensive > > > > > > > documentation. its final form is truly impressive. > > > > > > > John Burton: > > > > > > > What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jadi tidak ada ruang lagi untuk memperebatkan lagi > > keotentikan al > > > > > > > quran.. al quran itu solid, dan tidak diragukan lagi bahwa itu > > > kalam > > > > > > > Ilahi.. > > > > > > > bahwa quran jaman onta sama dengan jaman dimana orang dungu > > > > sudah bisa > > > > > > > ngepost email di kampung petar ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! 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