hehehe ... luxenberg ada di answering islam ... malah di sana lebih bombastis ... tp .. beda sih kl keluarnya dari situs tukang ngibul ... gw cuman ngetawain mereka aja ... koq ngebet sih mau membodohi umat islam ?
apa gak yakin sama agamanya sendiri ... tolol --- In [email protected], "hadjar_wish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Beda dengan "hadingrh" yang takut baca buku Luxenberg, saya baca dan > saya mengerti tulisan Luxenberg. > > Orang islam tipikal seperti "hadingrh" ini memang rata-rata takut > pinter, takut tahu, takut memperluas pengetahuan, takut memperluas > cakrawala. > > Beraninya jadi kokorban kibulan oang Arab yang bilang, tanpa bukti, > al-Mushaf itu berisi wahyu Allah. > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadingrh" <hadingrh@> wrote: > > > > bilang aja kl lu jg sebenernya kagak ngarti apa yg dibilang luxenberg > > dkk ... > > > > pandir > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadingrh" <hadingrh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > hehehe ... tipikal pembual .. > > > > tunjukin mana biblenya, mana ayat qurannya .. > > > > > > Baca sendiri tulisan mereka... > > > > > > > dan buktikan nabi muhammad pernah baca bible ... > > > > > > > > > > Dungu. > > > > > > Nabi Muhammad itu cuma tokoh fiktif. > > > > > > > moron > > > > > > > > > > > > some quotes: > > > > pendapat wansbrough mengenai thesis dr. john burton, the > collection of > > > > the qur'an: > > > > > > > > this remarkable work is the fruit of many years' study, much > > > > discussion, and not a little tenacity. to my persistent efforts at > > > > demolition, or at least modification of his thesis, dr. burton has > > > > reacted by seeking even closer definition and more extensive > > > > documentation. its final form is truly impressive. > > > > > > > > Robert Hoyland : > > > > the historical memory of the Muslim community is more robust > than some > > > > have claimed. > > > > > > > > John Burton: > > > > What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. > > > > > > > > jadi tidak ada ruang lagi untuk memperdebatkan lagi keotentikan al > > > > quran.. al quran itu solid, dan tidak diragukan lagi bahwa itu kalam > > > > Ilahi.. > > > > bahwa quran jaman onta sama dengan jaman dimana orang dungu > sudah bisa > > > > ngepost email di kampung petar ... > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baca tulisan Böwering, saya bukan budak anda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadingrh" <hadingrh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > jadi maksud lu yg apokrif itu sama dgn quran ? > > > > > > coba tunjukin bukti2nya sini ... > > > > > > > > > > > > menurut pendapatnya jusfiq .. mana yg palsu yg kanonik apa > > aprokif ? > > > > > > biar si entot bisa belajar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some quotes: > > > > > > pendapat wansbrough mengenai thesis dr. john burton, the > > > collection of > > > > > > the qur'an: > > > > > > > > > > > > this remarkable work is the fruit of many years' study, much > > > > > > discussion, and not a little tenacity. to my persistent > efforts at > > > > > > demolition, or at least modification of his thesis, dr. > burton has > > > > > > reacted by seeking even closer definition and more extensive > > > > > > documentation. its final form is truly impressive. > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Hoyland : > > > > > > the historical memory of the Muslim community is more robust > > > than some > > > > > > have claimed. > > > > > > > > > > > > John Burton: > > > > > > What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. > > > > > > > > > > > > jadi tidak ada ruang lagi untuk memperdebatkan lagi > keotentikan al > > > > > > quran.. al quran itu solid, dan tidak diragukan lagi bahwa itu > > kalam > > > > > > Ilahi.. > > > > > > bahwa quran jaman onta sama dengan jaman dimana orang dungu > > > sudah bisa > > > > > > ngepost email di kampung petar ... > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "hadingrh" yang dungu ini jelas juga berpengetahuan dangkal > > kayak > > > > > > > comberan dimusim kemarau di Jakarta... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dia tidak tahu bahwa tidak semua gereja dan sekte Nasrani itu > > > > menerima > > > > > > > Trinitas... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, inilah yang ditunjukkan oleh Gerhard Böwering: teks > Nasrani > > > > yang > > > > > > > dicontek al-Mushaf itu, bukan Bible kanonik, tapi Bible > apokrif. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadingrh" <hadingrh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dungu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ini pemisalan orang dungu yang tidak berdasar sama sekali. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karya Luxenberg tetap mendapat dukungan dan makin > > > diperlengkap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bukti bahwa al-Mushaf itu banyak nyontek dari dokumen > > Nasrani > > > > > makin > > > > > > > > > banyak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sebaliknya .. > > > > > > > > itu adalah pemisalan yg sempurna ... > > > > > > > > memang, siapapun yg masih terapresiasi dgn ptolomeus maka > > > > dipastikan > > > > > > > > org tsb adalah pandir .. > > > > > > > > sama halnya dgn luxenberg ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan itu sudah dibongkar habis di > > > > > > > > http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/vowel.html > > > > > > > > tanpa bisa dibantah sedikitpun oleh jusfiq .. > > > > > > > > dan kalau memang islam berasal dari nasrani, > > > > > > > > tentu tuhannya islam akan ada 3, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "hadingrh" yang dungu ini jelas juga berpengetahuan dangkal > > kayak > > > > > > > comberan dimusi!m kemarau di Jakarta... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dia tidak tahu bahwa tidak semua gereja Nasrani itu menerima > > > > > Trinitas... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, inilah yang ditunjukkan oleh Gerhard Böwering, teks > Nasrani > > > > yang > > > > > > > dicontek al-Mushaf itu, bukan Bible kanonik, tapi Bible > apokrif. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yg mana islam mencampakkan dogma smcm > > > > > > > > itu .. > > > > > > > > tentang haman ... > > > > > > > > tentang sunat ... > > > > > > > > tentang ibrahim .. > > > > > > > > dll .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some quotes: > > > > > > > > pendapat wansbrough mengenai thesis dr. john burton, the > > > > > collection of > > > > > > > > the qur'an: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this remarkable work is the fruit of many years' study, much > > > > > > > > discussion, and not a little tenacity. to my persistent > > > efforts at > > > > > > > > demolition, or at least modification of his thesis, dr. > > > burton has > > > > > > > > reacted by seeking even closer definition and more extensive > > > > > > > > documentation. its final form is truly impressive. > > > > > > > > John Burton: > > > > > > > > What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jadi tidak ada ruang lagi untuk memperebatkan lagi > > > keotentikan al > > > > > > > > quran.. al quran itu solid, dan tidak diragukan lagi > bahwa itu > > > > kalam > > > > > > > > Ilahi.. > > > > > > > > bahwa quran jaman onta sama dengan jaman dimana orang dungu > > > > > sudah bisa > > > > > > > > ngepost email di kampung petar ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! 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