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Diskusi dengan "mungkin" itu namanya menggantang asap.. Agar kita ingat: tidak bukti bahwa nabi Ibrahim (Abraham) itu pernah mampir ke Makkah, dan tidak ada bukti bahwa Nabi Ibrahim (Abraham) itu memang pernah ada. Yang ada hanyalah omong kosong orang Arab... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Usman Kris Joko Suharjo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bagaimana kalau ngelihatnya digeser dikit aja ke samping... Mungkin yang akan terlihat adalah sebuah pemahaman bahwa, Allah SWT sedang melindungi Ka'bah yang dibangun oleh Ibrahim dan Ismail (menurut Islamic tradition _kutambhakan ini biar gak diprotes). What do you think? Joko Tingkir Junior. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "gkrantau" <gkrantau@> wrote:> > DALAM KESIBUKAN membuktikan ato debunk klaim bhw pasukan gajah dari > Abraha berniat menyerang Mekkah, banyak di antara kita yg lose sight > atas sesuatu yg sangat penting. > > Klaim Islam mengatakan bhw AllahSWT in his infinite wisdom menghancurkan > pasukan gajah dari Abraha. In so doing artinya Allah SWT memihak pemuja > berhala di Mekkah/Ka'abah. Ingat Muhammad baru lahir dan hidup di antara > kerabatnya yg semuanya adalah pemuja berhala! > > Jadi umat Islam tidak sepantasnya berbangga akan 'kejadian' ini. Ini > satu bukti lagi bhw Allah SWT itu allahnya kaum jahilliyah yg di- daur > ulang oleh Muhammad. > > Gabriela Rantau > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "utusan.allah" <kesayangan.allah@> > wrote: > > > > Jadi, juga menurut Wikipedia (dan tidak bisa tidak) cerita Abraha > > menyerang Makkah itu berdasarkan Islamic tradition... > > > > Dan bukan berdasarkan bukti ataua catatan sejarah. > > > > Saya kutip: > > > > "Islamic tradition > > > > "Main article: Year of the Elephant > > See also: Shaiba ibn Hashim > > > > Abraha however is chiefly famous for his military expedition towards > > the close of his career against the Quraish of Mecca in an invasion of > > Hejaz in 570,[3][5] as recounted in the Islamic tradition - in > > particular, the tafsir (exegesis) of the surat al-Fil - states that he > > perished , known as the Year of the Elephant. The traditions also say > > that Abraha He is said to have built a great church at San'a'[3] to > > rival the Kaaba at Mecca and specifically came with his forces of > > Elephants to destroy the Kaaba." > > > > Dan orang Islam tipikal kayak "tari susanto" yang memang dungu- dungu > > menganggap Islamic tradition itu sebagai kejadian di sejarah.. > > > > Dunngu. > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], tari susanto tari.susanto@ wrote: > > > > > > Monggo Pak ini tambahan buat dibaca-baca barangkali > > > buat nambah daftar pustaka bapak: > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraha > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_of_the_Elephant > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
