--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Sunny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Kalau Soeharto bukan penjahat lingkungan keadaan hutan Indonesia 
tidak separah sekarang, dan tidak ada raja-raja kayu. 

***Baca http://www.whitehouse.gov/ask/20030729.html

***Richard, from Arlington, VA writes: 
How does this initiative thwart Indonesia when their deforestation 
rate is 5.9 million acres per year? And the US imports around 450 
million of Indonesian timber products annually. Seems to me like the 
U.S. is a major contributor to the problem. 

***Kalo bukan Soeharto, rakyat AS sudah tidur di jalanan. Rumah2 di 
AS banyak dibikin pakai kayu Indonesia.

***John Turner
Your question is an excellent one. Indonesia has suffered from 
severe deforestation and corrupt practices across its forested 
landscapes. Working closely with the government of Indonesia and the 
major non-profits, the U.S. has led law enforcement training in the 
region. In addition, we have financial assistance through the U.S. 
Agency for International Development in partnership with the Nature 
Conservancy and World Wildlife Fund to help the citizens and 
communities of Indonesia.

***Sogok resmi USD 10000, rampok resmi USD 10000000. Maka itu 
Soekarno teriak 'Go to hell America ! " 

***Bill, from Annapolis writes: 
How will this initiative affect our ability to import timber from 
other parts of the world, shouldn't we just stop importing trobical 
timber? 

***John Turner
Many thanks for your excellent question. Indeed the United States 
provides a major market for the import of tropical timber. However, 
we must remember that timber exports are often essential to the 
economic and social wellbeing of citizens in impoverished areas of 
the world. Often, people's livelihoods and income to communities 
depends on these traditional practices. Our efforts will be to help 
these world neighbors to manage their forests well, to protect 
biodiversity and watersheds, and to make sure that they can gain 
income from legal trade long-term.

***Kalo bukan Soeharto, kebaikan AS "However, we must remember that 
timber exports are often essential to the economic and social 
wellbeing of citizens in impoverished areas of the world. Often, 
people's livelihoods and income to communities depends on these 
traditional practices", tidak akan ada yang tahu.


> Kalau Soehrato bukan penjahat tidak akan ada korban jiwa mnusia 
satu juta lebih dan ratus ribu dipenjarakan untuk bertahun-tahun 
tanpa proses hukum. 

***Kalau bukan Soeharto, PKI sudah rebut kekuasaan, Indonesia pecah 
perang saudara, korban jiwa manusia puluhan juta. Hitung sendiri 
berapa banyak korban manusia di Kambodia zaman Pol Pot.

***Soeharto selamatkan NKRI.

 
> Kalau Soeharto bukan penjahat tidak ada akan dilakukan pembunuhan 
di Timor Timur. 

***Kalau bukan Soeharto, TimTim sudah dikuasai Angkatan ke 5, Asia 
pecah perang dingin.
 
> Kalau Soeharto bukan penjahat tidak terjadi kerugian pada 
Pertamina disaat perusahaan minyak dan gas di dunia memtik laba 
berlipat ganda atau paling tidak ada pertanggungan jawab terhadap 
kerugian tsb.

***Ngaco. Di Indonesia, hanya Ibnu Soetowo yang disegani Soeharto. 
Ibnu gunakan dana dari Pertamina, memikul pengeluaran TNI.


> Kalau Soeharto bukan penjahat tidak akan diturunkan dari tahtanya 
oleh demonstrasi mahasiswa.

***Kenapa setelah Soeharto lengser, gerombolan mahasiswa langsung 
hilang ??? 




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