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keadaan obama yang item memang menjadi kendala dalam pemilihan 

presiden amerika.  kalo, obama kulit putih, udah jelas, obama akan 

menang tanpa kesulitan.  kalo calon gop berumur 50-an, ada 

kemungkinan obama juga bakalan kalah.  ini disebabkan karena 

rasialisme masih subur di amerika.



padahal obama bukan keturunan budak amerika.  keluarga ibunya adalah 

keluarga 'darah biru kansas, yang masih satu keturunan dengan dick 

chenney.  beda lah attitude obama dibandingakan dengan negro amerika 

keturunan budak seperti jesse jackson yang 'lack of attitude'.



oot, seperti omongan leo, suryana, dan jasad tentang harga rumah di 

amerika.  kalo lokasi 'white neighborhood' udah pasti harganya mahal 

dan stabil, kalo lokasinya 50:50 antara item dan putih, harganya bisa 

murah.  kalo lokasinya 'black neighborhood' , udah pasti ancur lah.  

nggak peduli di suburb atau hill.



seperti pernah kejadian di seattlle, ada perumahan daerah elit di 

pulau dekat seattle, yang masyarakatnya mengajukan petisi menolak 

negro, ketika ada negro yang mau beli properti di daerah tersebut.  

karena jika negro masuk kesana, harga propertinya sudah pasti akan 

turun.  makanya, daerah kulit putih, seperti oregon state, washington 

state, harga rumah cuman turun antara 5-10%, dibandingkan di midwest 

yang turun sampai 30%.



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Blacks, whites show prejudices along racial divide 



By RON FOURNIER and ERRIN HAINES 

Associated Press Writers

 

 

DETROIT (AP) -- The Classic Creations barber shop sits empty, 

surrounded by drunks and shuttered storefronts just two blocks from 

the manicured lawns of Grosse Pointe Park. The contrast isn't lost on 

LaVar Anthony, a young barber who speaks in riddles of race, class 

and politics.



"What's already understood," he says without looking up from his 

Ebony magazine, "don't need to be explained."



But when it comes to race, what is understood? And what is 

misunderstood?



And how can it be that in 2008 - 143 years after slavery was 

abolished, decades after the civil rights movement - an AP-Yahoo News 

poll could find that racial misgivings could cost Sen. Barack Obama 

the election?



In search of explanations, two Associated Press reporters - one 

black, one white - listened to people of both races along Detroit's 

divides: Alter Road, which separates the city from the tony Grosse 

Pointes near Lake St. Clair, and 8 Mile Road, the vast northern 

border between a mostly black Detroit and its mostly white suburbs.



They found people of both races living just blocks apart who 

nonetheless spoke of each other like strangers. There was suspicion, 

contempt - and yet, for many, a desperate hope that Obama's candidacy 

might be the final step in America's long path to racial equality. 

For whites, their support of Democratic economic policies forces them 

to confront their racial prejudices.



It is here you meet decent people with much in common - both sides of 

8 Mile Road are populated by blue-collar Democratic families. But 

many still can't get past their racial differences.



Whites say their neighbors consider blacks to be violent and solely 

responsible for problems in the black community.



Blacks say many of their own consider whites to be spoiled and 

condescending.



But nobody - well, hardly anybody - acknowledged their own 

prejudices. Both blacks and whites instead blamed "they," a vague and 

unaccountable surrogate for their own racial attitudes.



"They" are whites who say Obama is unqualified when they really mean 

he's black.



"They" are blacks who say all whites are bigots.



Anthony knows who "they" are.



"It's understood that there's still a lot of racism that goes on out 

there," the barber says with a nod out his window and a wisdom beyond 

his 30 years. "A lot of white people look down on blacks as being 

lazy or whatever."



Perched on a ragged leather barber chair closest to the door, his 

knees pulled to his chest, Anthony fixes his gaze on a white 

journalist visiting his shop. "The stereotype against whites is that 

they have all the advantages," he says. "They all look down on us. 

They're snobs."



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Four of every 10 white Americans hold at least a partly negative view 

toward blacks, calling them "lazy," or "violent" or blaming them for 

the ills of black America, according to the AP-Yahoo poll. Such 

surveys draw criticism from whites who say the numbers are 

exaggerated and from blacks who say the numbers are too low.



Let others argue about the math. Listen while the people of Detroit 

explain.



"My kids have been called nigger babies. ... That was from a white 

family," says Cherlonda Hampton, a black woman shopping at an outdoor 

mall on 8 Mile Road.



A petite mother of nine who looks half her 37 years, Hampton says she 

was harassed by whites while living in suburban Detroit. Feces were 

smeared on her car. A dead bird was left on a tire. When her child 

was bitten by a white classmate, the white principal didn't seem to 

care.



After a year, Hampton returned to her segregated Detroit neighborhood.



This is an apt place to talk about race in America. Detroit's 

population peaked at nearly 2 million in the 1950s and has been on 

the decline ever since, dropping to less than 1 million in the latest 

Census figures. Although racial tension isn't the only cause, the 

1967 race riots hastened Detroit's decline and mandatory school 

busing a decade later stoked unrest.



Coleman A. Young, the city's first black mayor and a racially 

polarizing figure, said before his 1997 death, "No other city in 

America, no other city in the Western world has lost the population 

at that rate. And what's at the root cause of that loss? Economics 

and race. Or should I say, race and economics?"



White working-class Detroiters fled the city in droves, many to 

Macomb County and its working-class suburbs north of 8 Mile Road. 

Detroit's white-flighters were among the first to be dubbed "Reagan 

Democrats" - socially conservative, economically progressive, mostly 

Catholic voters who abandoned the Democratic Party for the GOP, in 

part because Republicans exploited their racial fears.



Their children and grandchildren are just as politically independent -

 swing voters in a swing county that both Obama and Republican John 

McCain hope to carry en route to winning Michigan.



And, like the Reagan Democrats of a generation ago, whites in Macomb 

County today aren't sure whether to vote their pocketbooks or their 

prejudices.



"I work at a grocery store and I know a lot of people who are not 

going to vote for (Obama) because of the racial thing," says Colleen 

Mullins, a white woman who lives with her husband Daniel in a black 

neighborhood south of 8 Mile Road.



"I'm hoping Obama wins because he's for the middle class," says Mark 

Coccia, 48, outside a suburban post office just north of Detroit. 

He's white, a laid-off factory worker and lifelong Democrat who's 

about to declare bankruptcy.



An American flag cracks in the wind as Coccia explains that he agrees 

with Obama's politics and admires the Illinois Democrat. But Coccia 

can't move beyond race.



"They can't blame the white man," he says of blacks. "Their own color 

sold them into slavery."



Coccia takes a seat at a picnic table and opines that McCain will die 

in office if elected and leave a woman, Sarah Palin, as 

president. "That," he says, "is not right."



Still, he may not back Obama.



"What kind of choice do guys like me have? A black guy or a woman," 

Coccia says. "It's a lesser of two evils."



He laughs, then turns serious - though it is never clear how serious 

he was all along.



"If Obama was a white candidate and gave the same convention speech," 

McCain wouldn't stand a chance. "But people are going to judge by the 

color of his skin."



"Not me, mind you," Coccia hastens to add, "But they will."



There's that pesky "they." You can talk for hours about "they" 

and "them" along 8 Mile Road. Though race relations are nowhere near 

as bad as they were in the 1960s, a white person can live for years 

in the suburbs without ever coming in contact with a black and, 

conversely, a Detroiter can grow up in the city without getting to 

know a white suburbanite.



Here, it's unfamiliarity that can breed contempt - or at least 

misunderstanding.



It would be a mistake to dismiss Coccia as a "bigot" or "redneck." 

Such labels turn him into a cartoon, somehow taking the edge off his 

racial views.



He exists, and so do his views, and they're shared by countless 

blacks and whites.



"They're everywhere," says Scott Flatt, 37, after stopping his bike 

just north of 8 Mile Road in Eastpointe to talk about blacks. "But I 

don't mind blacks as much as some of my neighbors. They're bigots."



Richard Mosely, a 35-year-old engineer working just west of Alter 

Road in Detroit, sets aside his blueprints to discuss the sentiments 

of fellow blacks. "They think whites are punks," he says. "I don't, 

necessarily. "



Blacks are more generous in their description of whites than whites 

are of blacks, according to the AP-Yahoo News poll, but the two races 

see racial discrimination in starkly different terms.



When asked "how much discrimination against blacks" exists, just 10 

percent of whites said "a lot" and 45 percent said "some."



Among blacks, 57 percent said "a lot" and all but a fraction of the 

rest said "some."



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Two blocks from Anthony's barber shop in Detroit, James Turnbull of 

Grosse Pointe Park takes a break from his morning gardening to show 

off his prized blooms to a black journalist. Before long, the 

conversation turns to race, class and politics, subjects the 71-year-

old white man encountered as a young man working in poor, black 

neighborhoods in the Jim Crow South.



While repossessing a family's kitchen appliances, "I would have a, 

pardon the expression, pickanniny on one arm," he recalls.



In one breath, Turnbull politely uses that long-passe pejorative for 

a black child. In the next, he says he's been around black politics 

for a long time and worked for former Detroit Mayor Dennis Archer, 

who is black. He believes the poll results showing white Democrats 

are letting their prejudices affect their vote.



"It does surprise me that they admitted it," he says.



Separated by a short walk - from Anthony's barber shop to Turnbull's 

blooms - are two ways of life: Porsches north of Alter Road, busy bus 

stops to the south; canopied awnings decorating storefronts to the 

north; bars and steel sliding doors protecting shops to south; white 

and black drivers pumping gas across the street from one another at 

unofficially segregated stations.



Not that Turnbull minds. "You live here, you don't see it," he says.



But he does notice a group of young, black men walking west on 

Jefferson, headed out of the Grosse Pointes into Detroit.



"You see them?" he points. "Some folks would look at them and 

say, 'There go three potential gang members. They've got the black do-

rags. Their pants are sagging. They don't look like your neighborhood 

kid here.'"



But to him?



Turnbull wipes the soil from soiled hands and thinks for a minute. "I 

would hope that I would see just a bunch of kids."



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