iya saya sih dah maklum lah. di milis ini udah banyak wong kristen sing agama ne tolol, tapi sok ngomongin agama islam yang memakai akal.
jadi, "harap maklum". --- In [email protected], "ndeboost" <rambitese...@...> wrote: > > Maklum lah Mas, sudah keberatan nama beliau itu > > --- In [email protected], "rezameutia" <rezameutia@> wrote: > > > > tuh kan.., tulisan orang kristen zombie yang percaya tanpa memakai akalnya > > bahwa "roh kudus adalah kebenaran dan kebenaran adalah roh kudus". > > > > 'kebenaran', 'kesalahan', atau 'kesesatan', semuanya ada pada diri manusia > > sendiri dengan cara memakai akal. sehingga semua yang dikatakan > > 'kebenaran', 'kesalahan', atau 'kesesatan' bentuknya berbeda-beda untuk > > setiap manusia, karena tergantung akalnya masing-masing. > > > > oleh sebab itu, tidak ada yang namanya 'kebenaran absolut'. > > > > coba dah dipake dikiiit akalnya, gitu lho?! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pemerhatidunia" <pemerhatidunia@> wrote: > > > > > > Ketika aku tulis di sini aku mengabarkan kebenaran ajaran Isa. Rohulqudus > > > pasti membantuku. > > > > > > Rohulqudus itu Roh Kebenaran. Ia mengajarkan kebenaran. Siapa mengajarkan > > > kebenaran, ia dipakai Roh ini. > > > > > > Kebenaran itu adanya di hati. Ilmunya ilmu roso, salah satu ilmu kejawen > > > yg paling tinggi. Rasakan segala sesuatunya dengan batin yg jernih dan > > > suci. Kalau kita MERASA damai dan bahagia dalam batin kita, itu > > > kebenaran. Cinta itu kebenaran, kesetiaan itu kebenaran, kejujuran itu > > > kebenaran, keberanian juga, dan masih banyak lagi hal yang kita rasakan > > > damai dan bahagia, itu kebenaran. > > > > > > Rohulqudus itu Roh Kebenaran. Ia lintas agama, tidak hanya dalam Kristen, > > > tetapi dalam Islam, Buddha dan yang lain, dimanapun ada orang mengajarkan > > > kebenaran, Roh itu membantunya. > > > > > > Siapa menolak kebenaran, maka ia terus akan membohongi dirinya sendiri. > > > Menolak kebenaran sama dengan tidak merasa damai. Ia tidak akan pernah > > > tenang dalam batinnya. > > > > > > pemdun > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Tawangalun" <tawangalun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Coba deh Roh Kudus suruh ndatangi aku nanti saya converse opo enggak > > > > pengin njajal saya. > > > > > > > > Shalom, > > > > Tawangalun. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pemerhatidunia" <pemerhatidunia@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Agama itu motivator dan pelakunya adalah bukan manusia semata, > > > > > melainkan dari sesuatu yg supranatural. Berikut adalah salah satu > > > > > bukti. > > > > > > > > > > Salah satu pertumbuhan agama yg paling tidak masuk akal saat ini > > > > > adalah pertumbuhan kristen di dunia timur. Kalau dari data di youtube > > > > > dan web, kalian akan dapati bahwa pertumbuhan orang masuk kristen itu > > > > > tidak masuk akal. > > > > > Di salah satu daerah (dari sekian daerah) di China, orang masuk > > > > > Kristen itu 10-15 ribu orang PER HARI. > > > > > Dan di India ada yg hingga 20 ribu orang perhari!! > > > > > > > > > > Al Jazeera memberitakan bahwa 6 juta orang pindah masuk Kristen tiap > > > > > tahun (?? kurasa lebih) di Afrika. Itu juga tidak masuk akal > > > > > mengingat berapa misionaris yg bisa mempengaruhi orang sekian banyak > > > > > dalam waktu singkat. > > > > > > > > > > Mereka tidak dipaksa apalagi diinjili spt di televisi indonesia. > > > > > > > > > > Mereka menerima mujijat supranatural macam2, lalu percaya. Bukan > > > > > pendetanya yg hebat, tetapi seperti ada kekuatan2 alam supranatural > > > > > yg sedang bekerja di sana siang malam membuat orang percaya pada > > > > > Jesus. Di banyak daerah di sana, pendetanya tidak punya cukup waktu > > > > > membantu orang, bahkan untuk membaptis saja mereka tidak sanggup > > > > > karena terlalu banyak. > > > > > > > > > > Aku yakin itu adalah kerjaan ROHULQUDUS, Rohullah yang memperlengkapi > > > > > Isa AlMasih, sedang bekerja dalam hati manusia. > > > > > > > > > > Korea sudah terjadi. China sedang terjadi. India sedang terjadi. > > > > > > > > > > Tidak mungkin tidak Indonesia akan terjadi juga. > > > > > > > > > > Sebentar lagi, aku tahu itu akan terjadi di Indonesia. Akan turun ROH > > > > > yang akan membungkus negeri ini dan mempengaruhinya demikian rupa > > > > > hingga ROHANI orang2 yang tadinya kosong menjadi penuh, meluap dan > > > > > membuat mereka menjadi penginjil di tempat mereka ada. Bayangkan > > > > > seorang kyai kalau satu orang saja menerima pengaruh seperti itu, > > > > > berubah total, lalu mengajak pengikutnya, apa tidak heboh?? > > > > > > > > > > dan itu PASTI terjadi, mengingat gagal totalnya sistem syariat Islam > > > > > di seluruh dunia, dan produk mereka para teroris yang mengamuk di > > > > > seluruh dunia, seperti berita2 di bawah ini yg kita dengar SETIAP > > > > > HARI. Pembom2 bunuh diri itu sekarang mengarah pada masjid dan > > > > > tempat2 suci... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dozens of anti-al-Qaida militiamen killed in suicide bombings > > > > > Seattle Times - Ned Parker, Usama Redha - ‎22 minutes ago‎ > > > > > Twin suicide bombings killed scores of people. BAGHDAD More than 50 > > > > > people were killed Sunday in attacks west of Baghdad, including a > > > > > double suicide ... > > > > > Video: Raw Video: Suicide Blasts Kill Dozens in Baghdad The > > > > > Associated Press > > > > > 48 killed in suicide bombings targeting members of Iraq's Awakening > > > > > councils Washington Post > > > > > At least 48 dead as Iraq is rocked by suicide bombing by Sunni > > > > > militia Daily Mail > > > > > Arirang News - AFP > > > > > all 1,152 news articles » > > > > > The Guardian > > > > > > > > > > Afghanistan suicide bombing kills at least 3 > > > > > Los Angeles Times - Laura King - ‎5 hours ago‎ > > > > > The bombing comes two days before a major international donor > > > > > conference. By Laura King, Los Angeles Times Amid sharply heightened > > > > > security before a major ... > > > > > Video: Raw Video: Suicide Bomber Strikes Kabul The Associated Press > > > > > Suicide bomb in Afghan capital kills 3 civilians The Associated Press > > > > > 3 Killed In Suicide Bombing In Kabul RTT News > > > > > Washington Post - 9&10 News > > > > > all 1,304 news articles » > > > > > The Guardian > > > > > > > > > > Police confirm suicide attackers in Uganda bombing > > > > > The Associated Press - ‎12 hours ago‎ > > > > > KAMPALA, Uganda Uganda's police chief says there is more evidence > > > > > that two suicide bombers had carried out the bomb attacks that killed > > > > > 76 people ... > > > > > Uganda releases photos of Kampala bombers CNN International > > > > > Worldwide Alert Issued to Identify Kampala Suicide Bombers Voice of > > > > > America > > > > > Our New Life, in Blood and Color New York Times > > > > > Nigeria Daily Independent - East African > > > > > all 1,118 news articles » > > > > > The Guardian > > > > > Kin of Lockerbie bombing victims bash Scots for releasing Abdelbaset > > > > > al ... > > > > > New York Daily News - Helen Kennedy - ‎19 hours ago‎ > > > > > The family members of the Lockerbie bombing victims are angry at > > > > > scotland for the release of Abdelbaset Ali Mohmet al-Megrahi last > > > > > year. ... > > > > > Investigation on B.P. WJHG-TV > > > > > BP, Lockerbie and Libya Wall Street Journal > > > > > Fresh call for Lockerbie inquiry BBC News > > > > > Daily Mail > > > > > all 2,081 news articles » > > > > > BP > > > > > Aljazeera.net > > > > > > > > > > Suicide bombing at Sargodha imambargah injures 15 > > > > > Daily Times - ‎5 hours ago‎ > > > > > "Fifteen people were injured in the bomb blast and they were moved to > > > > > a hospital in our ambulances," rescue service official Mohammad > > > > > Shakeel told AFP. ... > > > > > Suicide bombing at Pakistani mosque wounds 8 The Associated Press > > > > > 12 injured in suicide blast at Pakistan mosque CNN International > > > > > Suicide bomber strikes Pakistan mosque: police AFP > > > > > The Express Tribune > > > > > all 181 news articles » > > > > > Globe and Mail > > > > > Cartel ramps up drug war with car bomb > > > > > Chicago Sun-Times - ‎19 hours ago‎ > > > > > AP CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico -- The first successful car bombing by a > > > > > drug cartel brings a new dimension of terror to a Mexican border > > > > > region already shocked by ... > > > > > Video: Mexican policeman escaping drug violence denied Canada refuge > > > > > Al Jazeera > > > > > Car bomb marks new, bloody phase in Mexico's war with drug gangs New > > > > > York Daily News > > > > > Mexico cartel kills four in car bombing Los Angeles Times > > > > > CBC.ca > > > > > all 1,120 news articles » > > > > > Kansas City Star > > > > > Thousands Attend Funerals for Iran Bombing Victims > > > > > Voice of America - ‎Jul 17, 2010‎ > > > > > Photo: AP The victims of twin suicide bombings in Iran have been laid > > > > > to rest, mourned by thousands of people at funeral rites Saturday in > > > > > the southeastern ... > > > > > Video: Iran Blames US for Deadly Mosque Bombing The Associated Press > > > > > Iran Guards warn U.S. of "fallout" over bomb attack Reuters > > > > > Toll Rises From Twin Suicide Bombings at Iranian Mosque New York Times > > > > > RadioFreeEurope/RadioLiberty - Hindustan Times > > > > > all 1,870 news articles » > > > > > Iran to file complaint over mosque attack > > > > > The Associated Press - ‎9 hours ago‎ > > > > > TEHRAN, Iran Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Sunday Iran > > > > > will file a complaint to international bodies over the deadly mosque > > > > > bombing by an ... > > > > > CBS News > > > > > Pakistan: Bombing Kills 5 in Swat Valley > > > > > New York Times - ‎Jul 15, 2010‎ > > > > > By AP A bombing near a bus terminal in Mingora, the main town in the > > > > > Swat Valley, killed five people and wounded at least 58 on Thursday, > > > > > officials said. ... > > > > > Pakistan bombing kills 5, wounds 58 Boston Globe > > > > > Suicide Bombing Kills Five in Northwest Pakistan NTDTV > > > > > Four killed, 44 wounded in bombing at bus stand in Pakistan The Hindu > > > > > Reuters UK - TODAYonline > > > > > all 545 news articles » > > > > > The Guardian > > > > > Ugandan Leader Vows Revenge for Kampala Bombings > > > > > Voice of America - Peter Heinlein - ‎Jul 15, 2010‎ > > > > > Photo: AP Uganda President Yoweri Museveni has vowed to retaliate > > > > > against the Somali Islamic extremist group that took responsibility > > > > > for the bomb attacks ... > > > > > Islamic militant group al-Shabab claims Uganda bombing attacks > > > > > Washington Post > > > > > Video of Uganda Bombing Aftermath New York Times (blog) > > > > > Obama offers condolences to Uganda bombing victims -- and FBI help > > > > > USA Today > > > > > ABC News (blog) - CNN Internatio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The failed State and terrorism (1) Send to a friend > > > > > Saturday, 17 July 2010 13:24 > > > > > 0diggsdigg > > > > > By Evarist Kagaruki > > > > > The bomb blasts in Kampala last Sunday, which killed more than 70 > > > > > people and seriously injured many others, has been widely condemned > > > > > around the world. > > > > > > > > > > This is as it should be since terrorism, in all its manifestations, > > > > > is a scourge that threatens humanity; it takes away the lives of > > > > > innocent people (like those that were bombed while watching the World > > > > > Cup finals), including children. It is something that no sane person > > > > > can condone. > > > > > > > > > > The Kampala horrible incident for which the Somali Islamist insurgent > > > > > group, Al-Shabaab, has claimed responsibility (they say it was in > > > > > retaliation for the presence of Ugandan troops in Somalia), evokes > > > > > very sad memories of the simultaneous Al-Qaeda-directed US Embassy > > > > > explosions in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam in 1998. > > > > > It is also a shrewd reminder that our borders are still permeable by > > > > > terrorists; and that our region is still a target for terrorist > > > > > attacks. For this reason, East Africans need to be on the alert, > > > > > always conscious that the region remains insecure as long as Somalia > > > > > continues to be under the rule of the gun with no prospects for peace > > > > > and stability in sight. > > > > > > > > > > There is a need for the people of this region to be vigilant to > > > > > ensure the security of not only their borders but also their > > > > > homelands. > > > > > > > > > > The Al-Shabaab terrorist attack could not have been more ill-timed. > > > > > It occurred at a time when Africans were in a frenzy, celebrating the > > > > > historic success of the World Cup which was held for the first time > > > > > on the African soil. > > > > > > > > > > It was also during the finals of the world's most prestigious and > > > > > popular event which, this time round, had been the African pride, > > > > > especially because of the incredible way in which it was organised by > > > > > the South Africans. > > > > > > > > > > Second, the attack came as Uganda was putting final touches on the > > > > > preparations for the AU summit and a continental youth conference on > > > > > the sidelines of the main event. > > > > > > > > > > Certainly, the aim of the terrorists was to disrupt these > > > > > preparations by intimidating the hosts as well as the guests. > > > > > Besides, the bombings happened just about two weeks after the meeting > > > > > of East African defence chiefs on the Somali issue: they discussed > > > > > the question of deploying an additional 2,000 troops to bring the > > > > > AMISOM force level for Mogadishu to 8,100 peacekeepers (read: > > > > > peace-enforcers, as there is no peace to keep in Somalia); it was > > > > > also about a week after leaders of the regional grouping Igad had met > > > > > in Addis Ababa to deliberate on the continuing political instability > > > > > in the war-torn country. > > > > > > > > > > So, the Islamists must have been under intense psychological pressure > > > > > when they decided to descend on Kampala with bombs. > > > > > > > > > > But while the world has expressed shock and sadness at, as well as > > > > > condemnation of, the terrorist attack on innocent Ugandan civilians, > > > > > it should be pointed out that the international community, and more > > > > > specifically the UN, bears responsibility for the Ugandan tragedy > > > > > because it has neglected Somalia. > > > > > > > > > > The country has, since the overthrow of dictator Mohammed Siyad Barre > > > > > in January 1991, been without a functioning government; it is > > > > > beleaguered by civil war that has persisted for two decades without > > > > > any serious efforts on the part of the world body to bring it to an > > > > > end. Yet, Somalia, though stateless, is a member of the organisation. > > > > > > > > > > Of course a few attempts have been made towards addressing the Somali > > > > > question, but without success. The failure surprises no one because > > > > > the initiatives were rather erratic, and were based on a wrong > > > > > political approach; wrong in several ways but the most prominent one > > > > > being the seemingly agreed policy in the West, shared by some of > > > > > Somalia's neighbours (particularly Ethiopia), that a radical Islamist > > > > > Somalia was not acceptable. > > > > > > > > > > The Somali Transitional Federal Government (TFG) cobbled in Nairobi > > > > > in 2004 (with the help of Igad and US support) was conceived on the > > > > > basis of that "principle"; its set up was designed to bring together > > > > > warlords who had, since the ouster of Barre, been competing for the > > > > > control of Mogadishu to share power, to the exclusion of "extremist" > > > > > Islamic elements who also want a slice of the "political cake" in > > > > > Somalia. > > > > > > > > > > The consequence of this kind of power configuration has been the > > > > > upsurge in Islamist insurgency, terrorism and piracy. > > > > > > > > > > Add this page to your favorite Social Bookmarking websites > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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