Nggak heran. 

Agama itu memang makin lama makin jadi marginal.

Lihat aja di Eropa misalnya, gereja makin lama makin kosong, dan yang mengisi 
gereja juga terutama generasi tua; migran orang Islam di Eropa juga makin 
banyak yang murtad.
 
Nggak heran.

Kemajuan ilmu pengetahuan telah menunjukkan dengan jelas bahwa agama itu 
hanyalah hasil khayalan orang primitif.

Tuhan, Allah, setan, malaekat, jin, dewa, Nyai Loro Kidul dan hantu blau lain 
serta reinkarnasi itu jelas nggak berbukti ada. 

Dan internet juga akan mempercepat terbukanya mata orang Indonesia yang selama 
ini jadi korban kibulan ulama, kiyayi, ustadz, pastor, pendeta, pedanda dan 
tukang kibul lainnya.

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British Broadcasting CorporationBBCHome

BBC News UK

17 September 2010 Last updated at 17:11 GMT

The Pope says that religion is 'marginalised' during his speech in Westminster 
Hall

The Pope has warned that religion - and Christianity in particular - is "being 
marginalised" around the world.

His comments came in his keynote speech to UK MPs, senior members of British 
society, and religious leaders at Westminster Hall in central London.

Pope Benedict XVI warned that there were some people who wanted to see "the 
voice of religion be silenced".

He called on those in attendance to seek ways to promote faith "at every level 
of national life".

BBC correspondent Peter Hunt described the speech as "a rallying call, and a 
plea - for religion not to be squeezed out by secular society".

The Pope was speaking as a sixth man was arrested as counter-terrorism 
detectives investigate an alleged threat to Pope Benedict XVI's visit.

In his speech, the Pope said: "I cannot but voice my concern at the increasing 
marginalisation of religion, particularly of Christianity, that is taking place 
in some quarters, even in nations which place a great emphasis on tolerance.

"There are those who would advocate that the voice of religion be silenced, or 
at least relegated to the purely private sphere.

"There are those who argue that the public celebration of festivals such as 
Christmas should be discouraged, in the questionable belief that it might 
somehow offend those of other religions or none."

The Pope then visited Westminster Abbey for a celebration of evening prayer.
'Deep friendship'

Earlier, he met the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, at Lambeth 
Palace.
Continue reading the main story
Analysis
image of David Willey David Willey BBC News, London

Pope Benedict concentrated on what unites Anglicans and Catholics, not what 
still separates them.

He spoke of the deepening friendship at a personal level between these two very 
eminent professional theologians who find much in common to talk about at their 
periodic meetings.

The Pope also paid tribute to the 19th Century former Anglican priest Cardinal 
John Henry Newman - who perfectly shared both church cultures.

This is an important ecumenical gathering taking place more than 40 years after 
official talks began about possible reunification of the two churches five 
centuries after Rome refused to recognise King Henry VIII's divorce.

Lambeth and the Vatican have had a bumpy relationship in recent years as the 
Anglican Church first ordained women priests and is now considering ordaining 
women bishops, but both sides are still keen to go on talking.

It comes at a time when Anglican moves towards appointing women bishops have 
unsettled relations with Rome.

But the Pope said he wanted to focus on the "deep friendship" between the two 
churches rather than their differences.

The Lambeth Palace meeting marked the first time a Pope has met the Archbishop 
at his official residence.

It was viewed as an important event more than 40 years after official talks 
began about possible reunification of the two churches.

Divisions remain over Roman Catholic opposition to the ordination of women 
priests. Meanwhile the Church of England's General Synod left the way open for 
appointing women bishops at its meeting in July.

The Vatican angered many supporters of women's ordination by describing it as a 
"grave crime" to be dealt with in the same process as sex abuse, though it 
denied it was equating the two.

Dr Williams said in his opening remarks that the Pope was "most welcome" at 
Lambeth Palace.

He then praised the pontiff's "consistent and penetrating analysis of the state 
of European society".

As the Pope left Lambeth Palace to travel the short distance to Westminster 
Hall in his Popemobile, thousands of people lined the streets.

At one point he stopped the vehicle to bless a baby that was handed up to him.
True happiness

Earlier, the Pope led an assembly of 4,000 Catholic school children in west 
London.

He used his address at St Mary's University College in Twickenham, to say that 
the safety of children was vital in all schools, an apparent reference to the 
Church's child abuse scandal.
Continue reading the main story
Pope's visit

    * 17 September: Meets Archbishop of Canterbury; Address at Westminster 
Hall; Service at Westminster Abbey
    * 18 September: Mass at Westminster Cathedral; Open-air vigil in Hyde Park
    * 19 September: Beatification Mass at Cofton Park Birmingham; Meets bishops 
of England, Scotland and Wales; Leaves for Rome.

    * Tatchell heads anti-Pope protests
    * In pictures: Pope visits day two
    * Queen and Pope's speeches in full

He also warned against the limitations of celebrity and science.

The pontiff told the crowd young people were often encouraged to model 
themselves on celebrities.

He said: "My question for you is this: What are the qualities you see in others 
that you would most like to have yourselves? What kind of person would you 
really like to be?'

"I'm asking you not to be content with second-best."

He went on to say having money or a successful career was not enough to make 
people happy, but true happiness could be found in God.

Tight security surrounded the event, called The Big Assembly, and monks and 
nuns who had waited in long queues were frisked by police.

Around 100 protesters against the Vatican's record on gay rights, equality and 
birth control had gathered ahead of his arrival, amid tight security.

The Church saw it as an opportunity to celebrate the work of more than 2,000 
Catholic schools across the UK, in partnership with the state.

But critics said it could fuel hostility to faith schools and serve as a 
painful reminder of the child abuse scandal within the Catholic Church.




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